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6 posted on 02/16/2013 8:02:15 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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I had been more or less ignoring the XL Pipeline issue, except the demonstrations scheduled on the issue in DC this weekend brought it to my attention again. I decided to do some research on the issue and was surprised to discover, that this is not just another pipeline like so many others we have. It is in fact far more likely to have breaks than pipelines carrying normal crude.

It pumps a substance, diluted bitumin (dilbit) which is about 70% tar sand bitumin and 30% volatile diluting substances. These are trade secret compounds that the companies will disclose which means in case of a spill, clean up crews and neighbors have no idea what kinds of poison might be in and air and water. The pressure, high sulfur content, acidity and quartz grain (sand) composition cause much more abrasion inside the pipes and greatly increase the rate of breaks.

Here are questions that need to be answered about this type of pipeline in an upcoming report. I particularly want to know the answers to the second and third issues.

Apparently the cost of clean up for a dilbit leak in water is around $29,000 per barrel, whereas conventional crude costs about $2,000 per barrel to clean up. The Kalamazoo River at Marshall had a major leak from an Enbridge pipeline. Two years later they are still cleaning. The cost at least 1/2 $billion, right up there with Solyndra. The article below explains technical details of the problems. The clean up industry had no experience with this kind of spill. Since this is for export, rather than US use is this really worth it?

46 posted on 02/16/2013 10:39:51 PM PST by gleeaikin
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83 posted on 02/17/2013 10:32:10 AM PST by GOPJ (To be free is to own one’s risk - Jonathan Levy)
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