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Senators near a deal on background checks for most private gun sales
Washington Compost ^ | February 23, 2013 | Ed O'Keefe

Posted on 02/24/2013 4:24:50 PM PST by ConservativeInPA

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Republican traitors, Coburn and Kirk, are teaming up with Schumer and Manchin. Juan McCain, Jeff Flake and Susan Collins will endorse.

When will these F'ing idiots realize that criminals do not partake in background checks.

1 posted on 02/24/2013 4:24:58 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

Keeping records? Sounds like registration.


2 posted on 02/24/2013 4:27:32 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Why is anyone in our government worried about this?

Our government is going bankrupt.

Stop wasting your time on making government more invasive.

/rant


3 posted on 02/24/2013 4:30:15 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: ConservativeInPA

They will never understand and I will never comply


4 posted on 02/24/2013 4:30:15 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Looks like the GOPe fears an armed populace just like the Democrats, the rest of the left and the Marxists running the show.
5 posted on 02/24/2013 4:31:24 PM PST by Truth29
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To: ConservativeInPA

We have this in CA plus handgun & assault weapon registration. Next January, long guns will have to be regestered. You just can’t have UBC’s without some recordkeeping, which will lead to registration.

Some day in the future we will see confiscation (CA already had this happen on a limited basis).


6 posted on 02/24/2013 4:31:41 PM PST by umgud
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To: ConservativeInPA

Repubs who vote for this atrocity have to go, even if it means the seat goes Democrat.


7 posted on 02/24/2013 4:31:48 PM PST by Trod Upon (The Second Amendment acknowledges our inherent right to revolt if tyrannized. It ain't about hunting)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Good luck with recording generational transfers.


8 posted on 02/24/2013 4:39:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ConservativeInPA

Bob Owens blog:

BarackObama.com wants your gun violence stories. I told them about Buchenwald and the desires of the Weather Underground

http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/barackobama-com-wants-your-gun-violence-stories-i-told-them-about-buchenwald-and-the-desires-of-the-weather-underground/comment-page-1/#comment-58352

And theOne really wants your stories on “gun violence” (minimum of 20 words):

http://www.barackobama.com/stories/share-your-story

I was thinking of telling the gun violence suffered by the poor people of the Branch Davidians, but I am open to other suggestions.


9 posted on 02/24/2013 4:42:06 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: ConservativeInPA

Another RINO sellout.

RINOs don’t have a problem with big government.

They just resent not being in charge.
They know that democrats are getting the lion’s share of the loot.


10 posted on 02/24/2013 4:44:03 PM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: Trod Upon

I agree. What’s the point of voting for Republicans that side with democrats anyways. I’m suddenly not caring about the top marginal tax rate so much.


11 posted on 02/24/2013 4:45:52 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Idiots! Their concept of universal background checks will spike home invasions to steal weapons.
But they don’t care. They can shut down sales by having the computer send back a denial to all inquiries. Then what happens? Remember is is a right, not a need!


12 posted on 02/24/2013 4:45:58 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: driftdiver
I thought I heard Coburn say any date base would kill the bill. From what I took of it be the same as current 4473 check, but maybe he's a lyin. An expanded data base be the start of registration/confiscation; time for the Tar & Feathers.

I know that here in Alaska, if Begich votes for anything on the order of new gun control, he's history in 2014 and he knows it. His letter said no new gun control for him. just concentrate on the mentally ill getting guns.

13 posted on 02/24/2013 4:47:18 PM PST by Eska
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To: ConservativeInPA

RINOs out.
Nothing for any of them.
EVER.


14 posted on 02/24/2013 4:47:39 PM PST by Flintlock
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To: ConservativeInPA

So after weeks of dining in DC’s most sumptuous establishments, the suits have decided on what’s good for the little people.


15 posted on 02/24/2013 4:47:45 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: ConservativeInPA

A$$hole senators... What else covers the topic?


16 posted on 02/24/2013 4:48:56 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: ConservativeInPA

It should be obvious that the NYC and SF elites such as Feinstein and Bloomberg with their millions and billions in wealth and private security want the average Americans disarmed, before they come for your pensions and property via eminent domain.

They want you Mr Average, to become the victim first if their reckless policies and the dollar fails, while they are very well protected and defended with your police and taxes.


17 posted on 02/24/2013 4:50:42 PM PST by apoliticalone
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To: ConservativeInPA
Resolution of whether to keep records of private sales is key to earning the support of one of the Republicans involved in the talks, Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn, who has a solid A-rating from the influential National Rifle Association and could provide political cover for lawmakers of both parties who are wary of supporting the plan.

I'm sick of NRA giving these slugs cover by endorsing them.

18 posted on 02/24/2013 4:51:02 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Will it make it through the house?

/johnny

19 posted on 02/24/2013 4:52:40 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Our rat bastard GOP losers selling us out yet AGAIN.


20 posted on 02/24/2013 4:52:49 PM PST by SIDENET
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To: eartick
"They will never understand and I will never comply."

I'm with you. It's none of their frigging business, andthey can all high dive to hell. I put more value on my liberty and privacy than I have respect, or even loyalty to my present squalid, corrupt, self-serving, rapacious, vulgar government. I'm developing an intense, visceral hatred for those bastards. I've lived my entire life obeying the law, and I've never robbed, raped or harmed a living soul, yet I'm feeling more and more like an outlaw in this land where I was born. I'm feeling more and more like the people Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn described as "rabbits," waiting for the NKVD "blue-caps" to come in the night. I don't want to live with a leftist "boot on my neck."

21 posted on 02/24/2013 4:52:49 PM PST by VR-21
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To: ConservativeInPA

Good luck getting that pig to fly through the House.


22 posted on 02/24/2013 4:56:19 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I simply won’t comply....period.

There are plenty of folks who will not comply as well.


23 posted on 02/24/2013 4:56:52 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Will it make it through the house?

I'm thinking that it has been watered down precisely for that reason.

Some arm twisting, POTUS phone calls to "moderate" republicans, bribes, extortion, etc, and it will probably breeze right through.

Then they can publicly congratulate themselves for passing "reasonable" measures, blah, blah, blah...

24 posted on 02/24/2013 4:56:59 PM PST by SIDENET
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To: theBuckwheat

interesting links, thanks.


25 posted on 02/24/2013 4:59:37 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: ConservativeInPA
"“These negotiations are challenging, as you’d expect on an issue as complicated as guns,” the chief negotiator, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), said in a statement Saturday. “But all of the senators involved are approaching this in good faith. We are all serious about wanting to get something done, and we are going to keep trying.”"

With the exception of Chuck-E-Cheese Schumer's statement, and Coburn's “I don’t negotiate through the press”, attributable quotes seem to be few and far between. Also, "while a Flake spokeswoman said Saturday that he is still reviewing the proposal" doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Meanwhile, over on the House side, "Goodlatte added that any discussion of new gun laws should come only if the Obama administration steps up enforcement of current laws" doesn't sound like they're quite "near a deal", either. Wishful inside-the-beltway thinking by the WaPo?

26 posted on 02/24/2013 5:00:23 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Good luck enforcing it. Every gun I sell will magically be sold before the date the law goes into effect and the same with any guns I buy privately.


27 posted on 02/24/2013 5:01:45 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

The time is coming when Americans are going to have to stand up and remind these two bit public servants that this is OUR country and the Bill or Rights belong to us. These low lifes cannot take away our freedoms.


28 posted on 02/24/2013 5:02:30 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Progressive, Marxist liberals do not evolve, they morph into fascists.)
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To: apoliticalone; All

In all the states we definitely need to push for restoring Eminent Domain to its original purpose of allowing hospitals, libraries and schools. I understand the property in that town in Conn. that sparked the Supreme Court case has still not been developed, but the homeowners were forced out of their property. A number of businesses in DC were EDed and the site sat empty for years. Finally it looks like a Walmart will go into that space. Once of six Walmarts planned for a city of 630,000. Overkill??


29 posted on 02/24/2013 5:05:47 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: theBuckwheat

Submit stories of successful self-defense with legally owned firearms. Take them from the news or just make them up. Fill up their inbox with them.


30 posted on 02/24/2013 5:05:47 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

If I were to:
give/sell/swap...
a rifle/handgun...
to my brother/son/nephew/brother-in law/father-in law/
or a feller who seemed like a nice guy that I met while out hunting...

Then who, besides me and them, would ever know about it?
And how would they know about it?

(Yea, I have done all of those things in the past
and I will continue to do so in the future.)


31 posted on 02/24/2013 5:08:07 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: TigersEye

FREEP this poll!


32 posted on 02/24/2013 5:12:52 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

FREEP this poll:

And theOne really wants your stories on “gun violence” (minimum of 20 words):

http://www.barackobama.com/stories/share-your-story


33 posted on 02/24/2013 5:14:23 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: ConservativeInPA

So my Senator, Mark Kirk, is in on this. Unbelievable! But then, I knew he was a RINO when I voted for him instead of Alex Giannolous(sp?). And to think he was in the Naval Reserve and he does this crap.

On March 4th, I am attending the Lincoln Day dinner here outside of Chicago. The keynote speaker is Rand Paul with Kirk also speaking. Talk about two ends of the spectrum. This may turn out to be a very interesting night.


34 posted on 02/24/2013 5:16:33 PM PST by bushbuddy
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To: ConservativeInPA

So how would have enhanced background checks and mandatory background checks on private sales prevented the Colorado or Sandy Hook shootings? All weapons used were obtained after background checks. Oh, wait....this has nothing to do with those gun crimes, but it is a part of the left-wings’s long-time, scarcely concealed agenda — to create a national database of gun owners so that trouble makers can be dealt with at their leisure.

I hope that the proposed laws in Texas prevent any further erosion of gun rights.


35 posted on 02/24/2013 5:21:33 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: theBuckwheat
That would be a good place to use this temporary e-mail unless you want to be on 0bama's e-mail list.
36 posted on 02/24/2013 5:30:00 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
or a feller who seemed like a nice guy that I met while out hunting...

Just make sure the guy isn't an FBI sting...

37 posted on 02/24/2013 5:30:49 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: theBuckwheat

Perhaps we can tell them the story of how Democrats used gun control laws to keep blacks in the South from protecting themselves when the KKK came by for a hangin.


38 posted on 02/24/2013 5:37:12 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Universal background checks followed by universal registration followed by confiscation.


39 posted on 02/24/2013 5:37:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/tag/broken-window-hypothesis
The `broken window’ theory in practice. People will ignore it and respect for the rule of law generally will be further eroded, like our immigration laws and economic common sense in recent years.
Way to go critters. Another `F’ grade for Congress.


40 posted on 02/24/2013 5:44:17 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Universal background checks followed by universal registration followed by an attempt at confiscation followed by open warfare.
41 posted on 02/24/2013 5:54:47 PM PST by Trod Upon (The Second Amendment acknowledges our inherent right to revolt if tyrannized. It ain't about hunting)
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To: tumblindice
The basic idea is that an environment in which minor crimes are ignored or tolerated is liable to become one in which more substantial criminality also thrives, ...

Today we face the opposite and IMO the consequences will be even worse. We have major laws and the Constitution itself being ignored and violated by the highest offices in the land. You say my gun has an illegal cosmetic feature? I say "I'm not shipping crates of guns to ultra-violent drug cartels in Mexico."

42 posted on 02/24/2013 5:56:20 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

A Bi-Partisan group of traitors disobeying their oath to support the Constitution.


43 posted on 02/24/2013 6:01:31 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You trust the House?

I don’t.

I doin’t trust any one of those on Capitol hill.


44 posted on 02/24/2013 6:03:39 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Trod Upon

Followed by open warfare?

Are we close to holding a Constitutional Convention yet, or are people still worried that a Convention will take away their RKBA? For my part, we still have at least on peaceful option left and we are obligated to discuss it. And know that the more serious the discussion about a Convention becomes and the more people join in, the more frantic it will make the left. And keep in mind that whatever a Convention passes must also be ratified by a super-majority of the surviving states.

A convention could also address the other defects and weaknesses in the Constitution that allow an EPA that has run amok, has allowed the seizure of private property for the benefit of corporate interests (like the Kelo decision), has lead to regulatory tyranny like the raid on Gibson Guitars over the wood it imports, and the conviction of a sea food importer for the horrible crime of shipping lobsters in a styrofoam container rather than a cardboard one. More important, we could stop the federal government from placing us all in debt-serfdom through infinite money printing and perpetual debt. And last but not least is the outrage of ObamaCare. It is time to redefine the federal government. The only issue is if this will be a peaceaful or a bloody process.

see also:

State resistance to rogue post-constitutional federal government: the last best hope
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=47194

A Bill Of Federalism
Randy E. Barnett, 05.20.09, 4:11 PM ET

http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/20/bill-of-federalism-constitution-states-supreme-court-opinions-contributors-randy-barnett_print.html


45 posted on 02/24/2013 6:06:31 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: ConservativeInPA

I suggest that the Stupid A-Holes in DC simply make a trip to the nearest store in their home district that sells ammo. Look at the bare shelves, then ask the question, how do my constitutents feel about gun control.

Be forewarned, this is not a local issue. Nation wide the same thing has happened. It will not go away.

The MSM can forget this crap.....

POLs are all warned, we are watching and do not like what we see.


46 posted on 02/24/2013 6:23:32 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: ConservativeInPA

Boy, that will make my next biz venture quite lucrative....Teaching fellow Citizens how to mil their own gun parts, buy the rest and assemble them into whatever caliber they wish.

I will actively purchase a nice CNC mill, CAD the blueprints and pump out everything legally possible from blocks of nice, cheap aluminum. Hell, maybe even a 3D printer will work. ~$3k outlay for the CNC, I bet I could make my $ back in no time flat.

Come to Jax, FL and I will teach you how to use household tools to facilitate the assembly of any weapon you wish, no federal registration required.


47 posted on 02/24/2013 6:44:12 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: tumblindice

“That Which Is Seen, and That Which Is Not Seen.”

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15962/15962-h/15962-h.htm

Search for: “The Broken Window”

Bastiat clearly understood before 1874 the consequences of socialism and part of that was the “Broken Window” concept.


48 posted on 02/24/2013 6:46:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: ConservativeInPA
Not so fast – looks like the CommiePost has been doing a wee bit too much wishcasting:
Coburn: Senators still not close to deal on background checks http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/284557-coburn-senators-still-not-close-to-deal-on-background-checks#comment-811167327 Coburn warned that any talk of registering gun owners would doom the effort. “There absolutely will not be record-keeping on legitimate, law-abiding gun-owners in this country,” he said. “And if they want to eliminate the benefits of actually trying to prevent the sales to people who are mentally ill and to criminals, all they have to do is create a record-keeping. And that will kill this bill. So if you really want to improve it, you have to eliminate the record-keeping.”
Of course, this doesn’t mean that we’re out of the woods, we all still need to keep up the pressure on those traitorous jackals…. Oh, did I say traitorous jackals?… I really meant that they are back stabbing traitorous jackals… yeah, that’s it.
49 posted on 02/24/2013 6:56:52 PM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: bushbuddy
On March 4th, I am attending the Lincoln Day dinner here outside of Chicago. The keynote speaker is Rand Paul with Kirk also speaking. Talk about two ends of the spectrum. This may turn out to be a very interesting night

Shout Kirk down.

50 posted on 02/24/2013 8:19:29 PM PST by IncPen (Read the Constitution!)
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