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USAF Photo of the Evening: Deterrent Extraordinaire
ChamorroBible.org ^ | June 16, 2005 | USAF Staff Sgt. Eric T. Sheler

Posted on 02/25/2013 3:49:20 PM PST by EnjoyingLife


U.S. Air Force B-2 Spirit stealth bomber sitting on the flight line at Langley Air Force Base, Virginia, USA. Via http://ChamorroBible.org/gpw/gpw-200905.htm (medium, large)

The Photographer 
Staff Sgt. Eric T. Sheler, United States Air Force  



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: b2; bomber; langleyafb; spirit; stealth; usaf

1 posted on 02/25/2013 3:49:26 PM PST by EnjoyingLife
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To: EnjoyingLife
Somewhere Jack Northrup is still smiling.

In 1976, with his health failing, he felt compelled to communicate to NASA his belief in the low drag high lift concept inherent in the flying wing. NASA replied that the idea had technological merit comforting Northrop that his flying wing concepts hadn't been completely abandoned. By the late 1970s a variety of illnesses had left him unable to walk or speak. Shortly before his death in 1981, he was given clearance to see designs and hold a scale model of the B-2 Spirit which shared many of the design features of his YB-35 and YB-49 designs.[4] Northrop was reported to have written on a sheet of paper "Now I know why God has kept me alive for 25 years". In the Wing Will Fly documentary, B-2 project designer John Cashen says

"As he held this model in his shaking hands, it was as if you could see his entire history with the flying wing passing through his mind"

Jack Northrop died 10 months later knowing his life's passion would be incorporated in the country's most technologically advanced Cold War weapon system.

2 posted on 02/25/2013 3:54:27 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: EnjoyingLife
Ain't nobody else got one.

Jack Northrop would be proud.

Sorry don't remember how to set the size.

3 posted on 02/25/2013 3:56:01 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

4 posted on 02/25/2013 3:59:18 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
"The Wing Will Fly" is a superb documentary. Northrup's wings "failed" ( if indeed it's even appropriate to use that term) because the technology at that time could not control the aircraft...it was inherently unstable in flight.

The real crime is that for whatever reason, the US ordered that the remaining planes be scrapped. What a shame. Can you imagine one of those in the Smithsonian Flight Museum?

5 posted on 02/25/2013 4:00:01 PM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: EnjoyingLife

There was a show on “The History Channel” about the flying wing. If I remember right, the original design was credited to the Horton Brothers of Germany during WWII.


6 posted on 02/25/2013 4:00:45 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: tet68

7 posted on 02/25/2013 4:01:11 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: EnjoyingLife

It is vary rare for them to land one at a base like Langley. They usually only go in and then back to Whiteman AFB with a rare landing allowed at Diago Garcia or Guam as I recall.


8 posted on 02/25/2013 4:01:17 PM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The crazy thing was that they had 9 of them built
and the Sec Def had them destroyed. Symington I think
it was, just insanity.


9 posted on 02/25/2013 4:01:31 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: EnjoyingLife

With islam in the White House, the US inventory is largely irrelevant - until the mullahs decide to use it for another holocaust.


10 posted on 02/25/2013 4:07:09 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: tet68
Don't apologize.
Tiny photos of awesome military weapons are really frustrating.
11 posted on 02/25/2013 4:08:02 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

If alive today Jack would lose the meat display case. Despite his passion he never had any interest in getting a pilot’s license.


12 posted on 02/25/2013 4:11:41 PM PST by Reeses
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To: Reeses
If alive today Jack would lose the meat display case

i hadn't heard the term before. pretty funny

13 posted on 02/25/2013 4:17:55 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: EnjoyingLife

I saw one of these at the Wright Patt Air Force Museum in Dayton, OH. I stood there so long in awe with my mouth open my family left me and my tongue dried out. It was truly an awesome bird.

I think the A-10 was my sentimental favorite. It is the only gun to my knowledge that is so compelling they built a plane to carry it to the battlefield. She fires ~65, 3/4 pound projectiles per second when the “hawg farts.”

Wright Patt is a good stop if you ever get close.


14 posted on 02/25/2013 4:22:42 PM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: KC Burke

I always get a kick out of the concept of doing bombing missions from Whiteman.

A young pilot gets out of bed, gets told to take out the garbage and feed the dog, hops in his car and goes to a briefing room somewhere.

48 hours later, he’s dog tired, getting out of his car...and his fuzzy slippered wife it standing there demanding to know why he didn’t put ALL the trash out.

Somewhere in between he was over a foreign land dropping bombs on the enemy.


15 posted on 02/25/2013 4:23:21 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: EnjoyingLife

What I think is particularly funny is they have an entry control point, with nobody performing the entry control function.

Now, of course, they are trying to get a good picture and don’t want an Airman in the picture, but the ropes and cones sans guard is pretty funny.


16 posted on 02/25/2013 4:32:36 PM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: EnjoyingLife

Just the start carts, no ordinance? I guess it’s fully
loaded and ready to go.


17 posted on 02/25/2013 4:46:45 PM PST by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: IamConservative
I went to an airshow in Toledo back in the mid 80's before Gulf war I, and no one had seen the first stealth fighter yet. (F-117?) Anyhow, it had been heard of, but not seen yet.

So they had an area roped off with just tires and landing gear struts standing in the appropriate spots, with a nice sign identifying it. (Just like the rest of the stuff on static display.) On all the listings for the specs, it said "You wouldn't believe it anyhow".

18 posted on 02/25/2013 4:53:23 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: zot

flying wing ping


19 posted on 02/25/2013 4:54:25 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Slump Tester
I went to an airshow in Toledo back in the mid 80's before Gulf war I, and no one had seen the first stealth fighter yet. (F-117?)

Yep, the F-117. Made it's (most) public debut in the first Gulf War. They had one on display at Wright Patt last time I was there 2-3 years ago.

20 posted on 02/25/2013 5:00:43 PM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: EnjoyingLife

That thing is friggin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for posting.


21 posted on 02/25/2013 5:02:32 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: EnjoyingLife
Adolph had one of those.




22 posted on 02/25/2013 5:17:03 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: EnjoyingLife

We ned 100 more of these.


23 posted on 02/25/2013 5:38:49 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: tet68

Those things were darn near ivisible to radar at the time.

The Air Force knew that but cancelled them anyway.


24 posted on 02/25/2013 5:40:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Used it on the martians in original “War of the Worlds” Didn’t stop them!


25 posted on 02/25/2013 5:58:34 PM PST by Renegade
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To: IamConservative

Wasn’t that the prop driven plane at Wright Patt. I think all the jet models were destroyed!


26 posted on 02/25/2013 6:00:59 PM PST by Renegade
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To: IamConservative

Didja get to see the Valkyrie?


27 posted on 02/25/2013 6:05:26 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: BenLurkin; tet68; EnjoyingLife
Those things were darn near ivisible to radar at the time.

The Air Force knew that but cancelled them anyway.

You can’t really blame them.

The Flying Wing was spec’ed as a nuclear bomber.

It was a difficult plane to fly and an unstable platform from which to drop a bomb accurately. There were a couple crashes during testing and who wants to crash a plane with a couple nuclear weapon on board.

Of course then there were the rumors of Boeing offering cushy retirement jobs to the generals in charge of selecting the next intercontinental bomber.

28 posted on 02/25/2013 6:08:13 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

See my post 22. Ole Jackie boy may have gotten his ideas from the Horten brothers, who actually designed the aircraft in 1935 and build a flying model in the 1940’s.

But hey, lots of ideas strike several unconnected individuals at the same time. God does things like that.

Northrup corporation actually spent its own time and money to re-create the Horten 229. (Which was captured, dismantled and shipped to the US in 1945) The results raised goose bumps when they realized that not only could the plane fly, but it really could slip by radar technology at the time, and even give modern radar a run for it’s money.

Constructed of PLYWOOD, it incorporated an aluminum particle based paint (similar to the Hindenburg) to protect the wood from the jet exhaust.

Hitler’s wet dream was to fly these bombers to NYC and destroy Manhattan.

The pucker-factor? Another 6 months, and it would have been a done deal.

Another speculation for the machines not getting the funding needed was that Adolph was a collectivist. He wrote scathing commentary about “individualists.” He considered them traitors.

He never really trusted the Horten brothers, believing they were recalcitrant individualists. (He was probably correct.)


29 posted on 02/25/2013 6:12:04 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: EnjoyingLife

With five (5) Nuc Carriers sittin side by side tied to the dock in Norfork right now it might be wise to get these airborn...jes saying.


30 posted on 02/25/2013 6:12:37 PM PST by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco)
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To: Captain7seas
With five (5) Nuc Carriers sittin side by side tied to the dock in Norfork right now

Good Lord.

31 posted on 02/25/2013 6:18:05 PM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: EnjoyingLife

The only big plane I haven’t seen up close and personal. Some day.


32 posted on 02/25/2013 6:20:04 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Cyber Liberty

Didja get to see the Valkyrie?

They have one? That and the Blackbird makes the trip worth it.


33 posted on 02/25/2013 6:37:07 PM PST by Figment
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the flying wing ping. It is an awesome bird.


34 posted on 02/25/2013 6:43:17 PM PST by zot
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To: IamConservative
Wright Patt is a good stop if you ever get close.

Oh man, I could live there. You NEED a FULL 2 DAYs to do it justice. I especially like the Messerschmidts they have on display. So far ahead of their time.

Walk through the front door, and hanging over your head is a wood and canvas French plane with an engine the size of your family car. You really wonder how it ever got off the ground.

I took my Dad there for a reunion of the boys on his ship. First day, those old boys ran off to a far back corner of the museum. I had trouble keeping up with them. They KNEW where they were going.

There, way back in the corner, was a B29 in pristine condition. The legend said the plane was in flyable condition. Next to it were mock ups of Fat Man and Little Boy.

But what almost had me choked up was all those old boys putting hands on that airplane, openly crying. It was BOCKSCAR, the SECOND plane to hit Japan at Nagasaki. Enola Gay was a good hit, but Bockscar nailed the coffin shut.

All those old warriors knew that that airplane sealed the deal and ended the war. Had it not, most of those guys would have been hamburger on the road to Tokyo.

I stood back and watched a mob of old guys just rub their hands on the belly of that airplane, and openly cry.

Most emotional moment I ever had with my father.

35 posted on 02/25/2013 6:45:37 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Pontiac

I saw an interview with the test pilot who flew the flying wing over the capital in Washington D.C.

He had a Spanish name, maybe Cardenas. Anyway he was also the pilot who flew the B-29 which launched the Bell X-1 with Yeager piloting it the time the sound barrier was boken.

If I remember right he said the flying wing was very difficult to fly and to be no means stall it as you would never regain control. The plane did crash but I don’t remember why.


36 posted on 02/25/2013 6:49:02 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog

About 10-15 years back, I took the by-appointment-only tour of the Smithsonian’s Paul Garber Facility in... I believe it was Silver Spring, MD. They had one of the captured Horton Flying Wings there with the wings off packed in with countless other amazing artifacts. I think they moved everything to Reagan... I just was really amazed to see the “backlot”.

Oh... and I saw the miniature Northrop flying wing fly at the Chino Airshow about 15 years back too. I’d dig for pictures, but anymore I check FR on my phone...


37 posted on 02/25/2013 6:57:21 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Captain7seas

Don’t forget we have the U.S. Air Force ICBM’s, with 450 delivery vehicles that can deliver 550 nuclear warheads.
And U.S. Navy has SLBM’s, with 288 delivery vehicles that can deliver 1,152 nuclear warheads in 30 minutes or less.


38 posted on 02/25/2013 7:12:32 PM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Figment

Yes, the Air Force Museum has the one and only XB-70 left. I really want to see it myself.


39 posted on 02/25/2013 7:29:00 PM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: publius911

Hold down the Ctrl button and roll the wheel on your mouse. It will enlarge or shrink the entire page.


40 posted on 02/25/2013 8:34:01 PM PST by B4Ranch (When democracy turns to tyranny, we still get to vote. We just won't use voting booths to do it.)
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To: EnjoyingLife; All

Post/thread BUMP!


41 posted on 02/25/2013 8:52:56 PM PST by PGalt
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To: hoagy62

42 posted on 02/26/2013 4:42:21 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl
Don’t forget we have the U.S. Air Force ICBM’s, with 450 delivery vehicles that can deliver 550 nuclear warheads. And U.S. Navy has SLBM’s, with 288 delivery vehicles that can deliver 1,152 nuclear warheads in 30 minutes or less.

No don't you remember? obungo promised pootin' that he'd have more leeway after the election. By the time he's done all we'll have are ragged guys drafted from SEIU and the press corp in suicide vests screaming allahu dooby doo while their wives ululate from behind their burkas.

43 posted on 02/26/2013 4:59:50 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: yarddog
You are mostly Correct Sir! While the Horten brothers did not invent the concept, they got interested in flying wings in the interwar period as glider pilots.

The original workable theory behind the flying wing can be traced back to a Frenchman, Alphonse Penaud, in the 1870's time frame.

But the Hortens claim to fame is that they were the first to produce stable flying wing gliders and then the HO 229.

The only know surviving copy is in pieces in the Smithsonian. It's been scheduled for restoration and some work is underway.

And this radar model is in San Diago.


44 posted on 02/26/2013 6:20:46 AM PST by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Sorry, a no go. The XB-70 is conventional three surface design.

It’s greatest design feature though is that it is the first aircraft to be purposely designed to take into account and use the wave rider effect found in super sonic flight.

The YF-12 and SR-71 are the first aircraft to experience the effect, and Kelly Johnson did add some ability to the SR-71 to make use of the effect, but not to fully exploit it.

The XB-70 needed to utilize the effect if it was to achieve the range and speeds required.


45 posted on 02/26/2013 6:29:08 AM PST by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: hoagy62

Had to go to youtube and watch the XB70 episode again. I’d forgotten that one survived. Have got to find the time to visit Wright -Pat


46 posted on 02/26/2013 5:02:38 PM PST by Figment
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