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Liberal Reporter (Savannah Guthrie) Helps Prove Obama's Birth Certificate Has Been Altered.
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Posted on 02/25/2013 7:39:18 PM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter

Please pay attention very closely to this informative evidence easily explained in the video. It is clear proof that the document that Savannah Guthrie held and took a picture of on April 27, 2011 was a creation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afterbirfturds; awjeez; awjeeznotthisagain; bcclippingmask; birftards; birthers; bs; conspiracy; democrats; mediabias; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 02/25/2013 7:39:31 PM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Impressive work. Thank you.


2 posted on 02/25/2013 7:49:31 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Obamugabe could admit on live television that his BC was a fraud and 1/2 of the American people simply would not care. As long as they continued to get their entitlement checks they would be happy.


3 posted on 02/25/2013 7:52:51 PM PST by South40
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

“Odumbo’s BC is not a fraud!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Z9j7ksEw1YU&feature=endscreen


4 posted on 02/25/2013 7:53:11 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

The observation about the clipping mask is what immediately gave away Obama’s forgery. No scanning process, optimization or character recognition adds a clipping mask that hides part of a document and the inverse is true that no document grows magically after it is scanned by hiding the clipping mask. A similar background problem occurred with Obama’s 2008 COLB and the document allegedly photographed by factlack dot org. The document in the photographs has more background paper than the image that was scanned and posted, except there’s no clipping mask to account for the difference in background size. And of course, the biggest problem with either of these alleged documents is the raised seal that doesn’t exist in some forms and in others, doesn’t match the description of a legal HI DOH raised seal.


5 posted on 02/25/2013 7:56:26 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

The sampling in the serial number also varies as does the font/contours of the 1 digits. It’s a joke.


6 posted on 02/25/2013 8:04:39 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: edge919

what is a clipping mask?


7 posted on 02/25/2013 8:20:50 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; ...
Constitutional Eligibility

8 posted on 02/25/2013 8:27:40 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; null and void; LucyT; Red Steel; Flotsam_Jetsome

The WH LFBC clipping mask analysis here is not new but is succinctly articulated by Mark Gillar, who helped prepare the AV presentation of the Arpaio Posse evidence, IIRC.


9 posted on 02/25/2013 8:29:13 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: conservativebabe

The video explains it. Did you watch it??


10 posted on 02/25/2013 8:35:30 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

All good points.


11 posted on 02/25/2013 8:46:02 PM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Seizethecarp

“Mark Gillar, who helped prepare the AV presentation of the Arpaio Posse evidence, IIRC.”

You would be correct.


12 posted on 02/25/2013 8:46:02 PM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: edge919
I just watched the video. Has me convinced unless there is some explanation. Hard to believe someone would not flatten the document before creating the PDF. Me, I would have put it through a few more gyrations even after flattening it.

It is a real good Photoshop job though. Clipping around a signature is tough and it looks like they did an expert job at that.

13 posted on 02/25/2013 8:56:01 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

BTW, the Obot clown was a hilarious touch in the video.


14 posted on 02/25/2013 8:58:54 PM PST by edge919
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To: conservativebabe

A clipping mask is basically the edge of an image that let’s you grab only the visible part of the image and not the background. Used to drop things into pictures, or in this case into a birth certificate.

Some graphics expert on here can correct me if I’m not 100 percent on that. I know how to do it not always what it is called...and I do good work if I do say so myself


15 posted on 02/25/2013 9:01:48 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

When you build a document in a program like InDesign and export it as a PDF, I don’t think flattening is an option ... or at least it’s not an obvious option.


16 posted on 02/25/2013 9:04:59 PM PST by edge919
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To: conservativebabe
A clipping mask is an object or objects as contained in a layer.

The elephant in the room are the white halos surrounding the bitmapped areas, including MOST of the type (but not all). If you zoom in a few hundred percent, you can see the white halos around the characters which would NOT be present if the bitmapped lines and characters were present on the green security paper from the outset. The presence of halos indicates the lines and text were scanned and imported onto a scanned image of the green security paper background:

See the white halos? This tells you that the imagery is scanned then selected then placed into another document containing the green security paper as another layer. These halos WOULD NOT BE PRESENT if this bc were one entity from the onset. Interesting to note that the number '2' handwritten in pencil is the same way 0bama writes his 2's. See his '2's'?


18 posted on 02/25/2013 9:33:05 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Dumb ass amateur Obama....

If you are going to forge a BC document, you do it right using original paper, recreated re-word stamps and original typewriter with vintage ink in the damn thing!!!!!

They you scan the damn thing into the internet....

I could probably come up with a better forgery of his Birth certificate and I am NOT an expert whatsoever....

It is the difference between using a photocopier to counterfeit money vs. getting original ink and plates and paper and printing your order “near perfect” forgeries...

Some tin foiler people think that Obama is a CIA plant, no way in hell are they THAT damn SLOPPY....


19 posted on 02/25/2013 9:41:28 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

The forger should have printed the photoshop file. Then they should have scanned the printout to eliminate most of the evidence of forgery.

But there is also image cloning that would still be evident.


20 posted on 02/25/2013 9:45:51 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: edge919
When you build a document in a program like InDesign and export it as a PDF, I don’t think flattening is an option ... or at least it’s not an obvious option.

I'm not sure I would build it in InDesign but if I did I would save it as a PDF (or export it as the case may be) then open it in photo shop, flatten it and save it again as a PDF. From there I might open it in Acrobat, do what I could there.

Then I might even take a printed version and scan it as an uneditable PDF.

Given the importance of the document and the nubmer of people that would scutinize it it seems really sloppy. Someone was expert that put it together, just not expert at covering their tracks....

....or they purposely did not cover their tracks as in they wanted people to know.

21 posted on 02/25/2013 9:47:57 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

I think the problem was that they were trying to get Donald Trump to back off, so they rushed to get something out to the public, knowing the LMSM wouldn’t ask questions.


22 posted on 02/25/2013 9:50:41 PM PST by edge919
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To: null and void

Thanks for the ping.

BO’s forgery is sloppy, so sloppy it brings to mind the tale of “Mr. 880” (Emerich Juettner a.k.a. Edward Mueller) a counterfeiter who successfully evaded capture by the U.S. Secret Service for 10 years. He stuck to passing fake $1 bills created on a printing press. He didn’t pass bills in the same place twice. He even had bills with misspellings on them (”Wahsington”) and people didn’t notice.

http://www.nysun.com/on-the-town/little-old-moneymaker/9282/


23 posted on 02/25/2013 9:59:53 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Based on others input on the graphics quality of this BC, or lack of it actually, I’m withdrawing my comment someone did expert work. I was wrong in that


24 posted on 02/26/2013 12:14:53 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Interesting to note that the number '2' handwritten in pencil is the same way 0bama writes his 2's. See his '2's'?

Boy, you are way off base with that allegation. The penciled marks are code numbers written by clerks in the Hawaiian birth records office for category confirmation and data entry. They appear on many other birth certificates that have surfaced from the same era as BHO's "alleged" certificate. Sorry, nice try.

25 posted on 02/26/2013 1:38:35 AM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: thecodont
Sloppy is right. Being an "old codger" from the typewriter era, I think the sloppiest part of the "alleged" LFBC is the misalignment of the typewritten characters. Whoever created/assembled the LFBC was too young to be aware of the intricacies of early typewriters.

You can check this for yourself by opening Obama's LFBC document in Adobe PDF Reader and using the "selection cursor" to create horizontal and vertical reference lines. You will see that the "typed" entries are misaligned.....which, basically, is an impossibility if using an (alignment-fixed) typewriter. My conclusion is that many of the category entries were actually computer "cut & pasted", and then manually slid into what they thought looked OK. A woeful attempt, if I ever saw one.

No two ways about it.....it's a fabrication.

26 posted on 02/26/2013 2:05:02 AM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: Scooter100

Didn’t you hear? That was caused by the OCR software.


27 posted on 02/26/2013 2:22:45 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Scooter100

Why isn’t 47% of the population outraged and demanding absolute proof...??


28 posted on 02/26/2013 2:55:48 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

So, let’s ponder this........

1. Odumbo is PROVEN to be a fraud and is dumped as
President.

2. Are all his executive orders and signed laws dumped as well?

3. Who, if anyone will make that happen?

4. Will he be put in prison?


29 posted on 02/26/2013 5:45:08 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

The clipping mask has always been the smoking gun (and casing and bullet with groves that match the barrel).

The mere existence of a clipping mask blows away any concept of a ‘scanned’ real document.

The video was very good. And the Obot clown should become a pop sensation.


30 posted on 02/26/2013 6:15:26 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: Progov

“4. Will he be put in prison?”
Why put him in prison? ( )o( )bama would just cause an even bigger stink than he does today,especially if he has already been executed for the treason he has done.


31 posted on 02/26/2013 8:14:29 AM PST by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: Scooter100

I know what the damn clerks ‘did’ in Hawaii. But, what if you were sent your ready-made fraudulent bc and the forger told you it needed the numbers, after it had already been sent to you? You could refer to a legit bc and add the damn numbers yourself. All I’m saying is that the 2’s look like 0bama 2’s. Any good analysis makes note of such similarities. Note the smiley face drawn into Alvin T. Onaka’s signature. Is THAT legit? Probably not. Note the word “TXE” instead of “THE” in the registrar stamp at the bottom. NOT LEGIT. Bottom line is.. It’s either the birth record stolen from Virginia Sunahara and used for 0bama, or it’s a manufactured forgery with the ‘numbers’ as finishing touches to fool EVEN YOU to come to the defense of Hawaii CLERKS!


32 posted on 02/26/2013 8:30:36 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: JohnnyP

There is a good video on YouTube regarding OCR but there are far more compelling ‘uh oh’s’ involved here, such as there being both grayscale AND color elements involved in the ‘scanned’ birth certificate which is impossible to achieve both in the same element of art.


33 posted on 02/26/2013 8:39:36 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I was joshing with you.


34 posted on 02/26/2013 9:11:15 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Is there a video that does not require sign in to view?


35 posted on 02/26/2013 11:08:32 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

The video has been upgraded to private all of the sudden. I will see what is going on.


36 posted on 02/26/2013 12:10:01 PM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Thanks


37 posted on 02/26/2013 12:26:29 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Thanks for the explanation. I did not watch the video as I didn’t want to waste my time on BS again if it was crap.

Definitely can see the halos. I’ve had no doubt it was fake even aside from the technical evidence.


38 posted on 02/26/2013 3:52:35 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Clipping around a signature is tough

LOL no it isn't.
A very good graphics person can merge documents and images nearly flawlessly. The only impediments are source material, time and talent.

Anyone who was forging a document and did stuff like not flatten the image, not pay attention to differing source material resolutions, shadings or patterns is either an amateur, in a big hurry, or simply knew it didn't really matter whether the job was any good or not.
39 posted on 02/26/2013 4:02:15 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: edge919

Retaining editing capability in PDF would be an option you can avoid. There are many times you do not want a recipient to be able to take apart your document.


40 posted on 02/26/2013 4:05:10 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: JohnnyP

If you are scanning a document, there is no use for OCR unless you want to edit it.


41 posted on 02/26/2013 4:09:02 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: visualops
Anyone who was forging a document and did stuff like not flatten the image, not pay attention to differing source material resolutions, shadings or patterns is either an amateur, in a big hurry, or simply knew it didn't really matter whether the job was any good or not.

Makes sense doesn't it? You're not going to shop around for talented, knowledgeable graphic artists to do something like this. It's kept within a tight group of people, one of whom knows how to use Photoshop (kinda).

The amateur makes it, the amateurs look at the final product and marvel at its perceived authenticity and run with it, fully knowing the press will never question it anyway.

42 posted on 02/26/2013 4:10:48 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Well, sort of...a clipping mask is a mask that can hide part of something, and show what you want to show. So like what you said but the clipping mask defines the visible portion.
Some clipping masks might just be the printable edge or boundaries of a document. Other clipping masks might “cut” something out of the background to allow you to overlay it on something else.
Sometimes a PDF will actually create a clipping mask out of something, depending on your origin art. Then when you open it(the editable pdf) in another program like Illustrator, you can release the clipping mask and it’s way different than what you started with.

But to get back to the beginning- what should have happened with Dear Leader’s BC is they scan (image scan) the original document. period, end of story. You can then put the image in a pdf for distribution purposes, but it would still be a flat image no matter what.
The people at these agencies aren’t going to get all fancy with the scanning. There are 2 types of bureaucratic scanning. There’s scanning for information (digitizing documents) when it would be OCR scanning, and then there is scanning for document archiving (image scans of original documents). In the latter case you aren’t going to OCR when you are digitally archiving originals that may have peculiarities or be historical. That would be like going to ancestry.com and someone OCR the Ellis Island documents. Extreme example but you see what I mean.


43 posted on 02/26/2013 4:33:06 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Why do I get the message...

This video is private.
Sorry about that.


44 posted on 02/26/2013 4:39:02 PM PST by kanawa
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To: Future Snake Eater

Yep.
Although younger folks who have education but no experience sometimes amaze me with their lack of knowledge or ability to “figure it out”. Being able to analyze and figure it out takes more brains and/or experience. I don’t have much education but I have a lot of experience and self taught knowledge, and the ability to “find a better way” from necessity.


45 posted on 02/26/2013 4:42:08 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Future Snake Eater
amateurs look at the final product and marvel at its perceived authenticity
BR>what a great description. that just nails the visual.
46 posted on 02/26/2013 4:59:18 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: kanawa

The video was disabled this afternoon for purposes unknown to me.


47 posted on 02/26/2013 5:25:04 PM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: visualops

Don’t feel you have to soft peddle if I’m wrong. I enjoyed reading your post...and being corrected. I love this type of discussion thread and What counts is of course the right answer.


48 posted on 02/26/2013 5:50:04 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: visualops

I have since corrected my assessment after looking more closely


49 posted on 02/26/2013 5:54:50 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

The link says that this video is private.


50 posted on 02/28/2013 6:12:47 PM PST by perfect stranger (Nobama)
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