Skip to comments.Complaint filed in case of 6-year-old transgender girl
Posted on 02/26/2013 9:45:41 PM PST by Washi
Six-year-old Coy Mathis explains her predicament in the simplest of terms:
I want to go to school. We play games at recess, the first grader said Tuesday.
But the transgender girl is being home schooled this semester because she has been denied access to the girls bathroom at Eagleside Elementary School in Fountain-Fort Carson School District 8, her parents say.
New York-based Transgender Legal Defense & Education Fund attorneys said they filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Division on behalf of her parents Kathryn and Jeremy Mathis, saying Coy has been discriminated against.
Forcing Coy to use a different bathroom than the girls, is targeting her for stigma, bullying and harassment, said Michael Silverman, TLDE attorney and executive director. He said that Colorado law prevents schools from discriminating against transgender students.
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Your daughter reminds me of myself when I was little :0)
Unfortunately I think this child’s parents are fishing for a lawsuit.
Would have got his butt kicked on a daily basis at my school.
13 to 18 monthsSo I am wondering just how, at age 18 months, Coy was able to actually communicate this complex issue with parents. Or were parents just hearing what they wanted to hear, or imagined they heard.
Now your child is using one or more words, and she knows what they mean. She'll even practice inflection, raising her tone when asking a question by saying "Up-py?" when she wants to be carried, for example. She's realizing the importance of language as she taps into the power of communicating her needs.
19 to 24 months
Though she probably says fewer than 50 words....
When I was 6, I wanted to be a horse. Not a rider (I was already riding at that age) but a horse. I would go to bed praying that I would wake up as a horse, lazing around my parent's backyard. Thank God my rampant imagination (which really was something of a fixation) was not in any way encouraged by my family!
Looks like they’ve pulled them - must have been spectacular.
While I am totally convinced that these pervert parents just wanted a chance to be famous advocates for a “progressive” canse and are willing to sacrifice their son in order to do it, I would not put too much stock in the language skills outlined at your source.
I raised four sons. Generally, girls are ahead of boys in language development, but all of my children were far ahead of that as described at your source. By 18 months, my boys were fully capable of forming complex sentences and of making their opinions known on a whole host of subjects.
That said, while this child may have, at one point, actually mentioned wanting to be a girl, that probably was just some flight of fancy like wanting to be a pirate or a horse. It was just the imagination taking off before sexual identity is established.
I remember my eldest child, before the age of about 2 1/2 just wanting to do everything that I did because he was with me during the day. When daddy came home he wanted to imitate daddy, and his toy interests were in the boy category. But, on occasion, when I put on make-up or jewelry he wanted in on it. He was not yet capable of separating “girl” stuff from “boy” stuff.
My mother came to my house one time and was not happy to see her 18-month-old grandson with a bracelet and a scarf. That boy, who had a very developed imagination, soon grew out his interest. By 4, he would have shunned that scarf and bracelet with horror. I am betting that it would not take much to totally confuse a child like mine by deciding at such a young age that there was much more to the baby’s interest than mere intellectual curiosity.
My baby boy grew up just fine and is now the father of two wonderful sons, the eldest of whom reminds me so much of him as a little one. But I’ll bet we could have messed him up something awful as these parents have done with this poor child.
Most were very much supportive of the family, very terrible IMO
goody, another thread
Purple / red hair at six? Obviously the parents are a bit out there. I do feel sorry for this child.
Put him on stage.
no matter what you do, he insists he's a girl and not a boy, and won't be cast into a male identity no matter what you say or do? What do you do then?
Try to profit from the little freak.
Palestinian terrorists are. How much difference is there?
Children that age do not think or talk that way unless some crazy adult is putting in their head
at 18 mos, I am thinking mommy dressed him
Nope, we recognize them easily, ever since the first one, "Hath God said?"
What I don’t understand is, why the parents of this child or anyone who finds themselves or a family member in this situation don’t work on “fixing the mind to match the body” instead of “fixing the body to match the mind”. Seems like the first one would be less traumatic on all parties involved. Lazy parenting, I think.
“Transgendered 6 year old”...smh...
Do 4 year olds know the difference between a boy body and girl body.
Maybe somebody thought his disabled sibling was getting too much attention?
Not in a vital way, I would argue.
Hence their disagreement would be with the identity they associate with each sex—boys become president, girls play with dolls, etc.. I’d take their disinterest in whatever they associate with their given sex, therefore, to simply be reason for broadening their idea as to what boys and girls like and can do. Boys can like cooking and girls can like sports, or whatever.
I could be wrong but I thought I read where he/she was one of triplets and that one of the girls was handicapped.....maybe mom was “replacing”.....who the hell knows!!
They are not talking about an Hermaphrodite, they are talking "transgendered" which simply means a person who thinks they should be the opposite sex. A 3 yo child is hardly qualified to make that sort of decision, these parents should be tried and thrown in jail for child abuse.
Recognize it as a mental or physical illness and treat it accordingly. I wouldn’t be surprised if the parents were positively reinforcing this behavior, thus grooming him.
These conditions are treatable. Either there is a genetic or epigenetic effect on a developing embryo or it is environmental. All those things can be fixed.
My third child tried to pull this stunt in order to gain attention and manipulate our surroundings (Yes at a young age children can be very crafty schemers) to cater to him. Guess what, after 6-7 months of fighting off the scheme he returned to gender norms (Horrifying thought to the homosexual/transgendered crowd).
Unless this kid has demons caused by others such as sexual abuse or pressure from an outside influence (An adult or "entertainment choices") its all lack of discipline. If conditioned the parents should find the cause, confront, and heal. If the parents egg this child on, the parents should be charged with abuse.
I think you've given the best response of any in this thread to my out-loud musings.
I can see that such behavior could very, very well be an attention-seeking device. I also think that when a child is young and developing, in the vast majority of instances their mind and identity are probably flexible enough to be molded in a particular direction. In other words, I certainly think it's very possible for parents to mess up a child. I will also agree that there are many, many instances of completely wrong-headed opinions from doctors and psychologists. Just because someone has a degree after their name does not necessarily mean their opinion is of any value.
I do still wonder whether there are instances in which the kind of approach that worked for you simply doesn't work. I've never met a child who was born without feet, and I've never known or met conjoined twins. And as far as I know, I've never met a hermaphroditic child. But I know that such persons do exist.
See my response to rollo tomasi. I think your response is a good response as well.
Incredible. What other perverse wonders shall we see in our “enlightened” society?
Children are stubborn but eventually give in. Of course the child in question has gone way off the deep end. Not sure if something else involved (Abuse) or parents gleefully rewarding/encouraging defying the norms. Either way, society should not be obligated to cater to any dysfunction that intrudes on the realm of individuals’ rational rights (This case the females’ lair of privacy in the bathroom); help yes, encouragement no.
Yes, I have children.
The more I think about this situation, it’s starting to become more clear to me.
Parents have triplets. Two boys, girl. They also have two other children (the article doesn’t say whether older or younger).
Children always compete for attention. This is especially true in families with 5 kids, and it’s especially true for triplets.
Lily (girl triplet) contracts meningitis at 4 months, and becomes disabled. So among the triplets, you have Lily, Max, and Coy.
From the photo, it looks like Max may be the taller triplet.
So who gets all the attention? Lily, the special-needs girl. Who’s in the middle wanting attention? Coy. How does Coy get attention? Well, maybe if Coy is a girl like Lily, he will get more attention, too.
Enter doctors and psychologists. Yes, if Coy is saying he’s a girl, then he must have that identity. You will damage him if you don’t play along. Yes, we’re experts. That will be $495, please.
Sound about like the scenario we have?
It doesn't sound like either of these to me. But I think I've started to piece together what's probably going on here. It seems to me probably more like a case of overstretched parents who don't know what to do and have been misguided by "professional" advice. See my post 83.
That could very well be true!
The child is not a girl and never will be a "she", even after the surgical multilation and chemical treatments are complete.
Jim, love ya, but do not agree that Jeff Winston is “pushing” it. He has simply asked an extremely tough-to-answer question, what CAN/WOULD/SHOULD we do about/with those who are truly afflicted?
I fully agree that the parents should be locked up if it can be proven that they caused the crisis; that is pure abuse.
JR, Winston has been a leftist troll since the day he signed up. Sometimes a “concern” troll, sometimes just a regular out leftist troll.
The “brain structure” crap is non-scientific crap, just as the claim that homosexuals had brain differences was crap and the homoagenda pushers had to admit that later.
I have some experience.
I know a child who is not in her mid teens. She wants to be a man. She is so fearful of her sexuality that she wants her breasts removed. She is eating her way into bulk and it is distorting her face.
She is the most controlling child I have ever met. She never backs down. Her drama is about control...all of it.
>>You should see the comments at the site.... ugh
Very impressive for a “conservative” military industrial town.
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was she molested early in life? You know, the Chastity Bono treatment??
I saw the comments. Wonder if it was THEIR child? Would they get the kid they transgender surgery or a lobotomy?
Not that she is admitting. Gets lots of negative attention though.
Lots of control.
I suspect that you’re exactly right about the parents’ need for attention. Apparently, Jeremy Mathis, the father of these FIVE children, is working on an Associate of Arts Degree in Mass Communication; I have no idea how he is supporting 2 adults and five very young children, one of whom appears (from a photo)to be moderately to severely disabled.
Did anybody notice that the parents claimed that the “transgender” child wanted a PINK blanket, not a BLUE one? How would a child know that pink = feminine?
This child (Coy) may also crave attention and his behavior may have something to do with the tragic illness of his triplet sibling and the attention she gets, as well as the quality of parenting to which he is exposed.