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Complaint filed in case of 6-year-old transgender girl
Colorado Springs Gazette ^ | February 26, 2013 | Carol McGraw

Posted on 02/26/2013 9:45:41 PM PST by Washi

Six-year-old Coy Mathis explains her predicament in the simplest of terms:

“I want to go to school. We play games at recess,” the first grader said Tuesday.

But the transgender girl is being home schooled this semester because she has been denied access to the girls’ bathroom at Eagleside Elementary School in Fountain-Fort Carson School District 8, her parents say.

New York-based Transgender Legal Defense & Education Fund attorneys said they filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Division on behalf of her parents Kathryn and Jeremy Mathis, saying Coy has been discriminated against.

Forcing Coy to use a different bathroom than the girls, “is targeting her for stigma, bullying and harassment,” said Michael Silverman, TLDE attorney and executive director. He said that Colorado law prevents schools from discriminating against transgender students.

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To: Washi
I agree with you. My three year daughter asked me if she could become a boy since her best friends area boys. I said no, God made you a beautiful, smart girl and you are going to stay that way. She then asked me if it was ok for her to play in the mud with the boys while she wore dresses, and i told her that was why God created washing machines.
51 posted on 02/27/2013 3:28:38 AM PST by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: MacMattico

Your daughter reminds me of myself when I was little :0)
Unfortunately I think this child’s parents are fishing for a lawsuit.


52 posted on 02/27/2013 3:32:20 AM PST by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: SledgeCS
The idea of him using the girls restroom or locker room would have gotten the school sued if not worse.

Would have got his butt kicked on a daily basis at my school.

53 posted on 02/27/2013 3:49:34 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: GeronL

ROFL


54 posted on 02/27/2013 4:13:07 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Washi
"I'm not gay, I'm nothing yet!"


55 posted on 02/27/2013 4:16:14 AM PST by RedBallJet
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To: Washi
Below is text copy/pasted from a child development site:
13 to 18 months
Now your child is using one or more words, and she knows what they mean. She'll even practice inflection, raising her tone when asking a question by saying "Up-py?" when she wants to be carried, for example. She's realizing the importance of language as she taps into the power of communicating her needs.
19 to 24 months
Though she probably says fewer than 50 words....
So I am wondering just how, at age 18 months, Coy was able to actually communicate this complex issue with parents. Or were parents just hearing what they wanted to hear, or imagined they heard.
56 posted on 02/27/2013 4:54:41 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: GeronL
if this kid decides tomorrow that he is truly a DOG

When I was 6, I wanted to be a horse. Not a rider (I was already riding at that age) but a horse. I would go to bed praying that I would wake up as a horse, lazing around my parent's backyard. Thank God my rampant imagination (which really was something of a fixation) was not in any way encouraged by my family!

57 posted on 02/27/2013 4:54:50 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: grellis

lol!


58 posted on 02/27/2013 4:57:01 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Looks like they’ve pulled them - must have been spectacular.


59 posted on 02/27/2013 5:00:12 AM PST by mykroar (Sig is pending a Conservative party.)
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To: Jeff Winston
I don't buy it, period. Just out of curiosity--do you have kids? I have three boys, and I am around toddlers frequently. I have yet to meet a single 18-month old that can identify gender beyond hairstyle and color-coded clothing. I refuse to believe that such an 18-month old exists--this is parental imprinting, and it is tantamount to mental and emotional abuse. What you have cited from the article, "But inside, mentally and most likely physically (with brain structure), Coy is a girl" is drivel. Take the second first--"most likely" physically, based upon what? Is this brain structure unchanged from birth, or structure that has evolved in early childhood from external pressures? None of us is born with modesty, but early in our lives we are conditioned to wear clothing--and I wouldn't be surprised if there is some physical evidence of that. But it is NOT behavior we are born with. And "mentally" a girl? Again, no. Not in an 18 month old. This is nothing more than parents imprinting their desires upon their child, encouraging what began as simple childhood imagination (if the child's confusion ever existed at all, which I doubt).
60 posted on 02/27/2013 5:12:56 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

While I am totally convinced that these pervert parents just wanted a chance to be famous advocates for a “progressive” canse and are willing to sacrifice their son in order to do it, I would not put too much stock in the language skills outlined at your source.

I raised four sons. Generally, girls are ahead of boys in language development, but all of my children were far ahead of that as described at your source. By 18 months, my boys were fully capable of forming complex sentences and of making their opinions known on a whole host of subjects.

That said, while this child may have, at one point, actually mentioned wanting to be a girl, that probably was just some flight of fancy like wanting to be a pirate or a horse. It was just the imagination taking off before sexual identity is established.

I remember my eldest child, before the age of about 2 1/2 just wanting to do everything that I did because he was with me during the day. When daddy came home he wanted to imitate daddy, and his toy interests were in the boy category. But, on occasion, when I put on make-up or jewelry he wanted in on it. He was not yet capable of separating “girl” stuff from “boy” stuff.

My mother came to my house one time and was not happy to see her 18-month-old grandson with a bracelet and a scarf. That boy, who had a very developed imagination, soon grew out his interest. By 4, he would have shunned that scarf and bracelet with horror. I am betting that it would not take much to totally confuse a child like mine by deciding at such a young age that there was much more to the baby’s interest than mere intellectual curiosity.

My baby boy grew up just fine and is now the father of two wonderful sons, the eldest of whom reminds me so much of him as a little one. But I’ll bet we could have messed him up something awful as these parents have done with this poor child.


61 posted on 02/27/2013 5:39:41 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: mykroar

Most were very much supportive of the family, very terrible IMO


62 posted on 02/27/2013 5:45:23 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: mykroar

goody, another thread

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2991608/posts


63 posted on 02/27/2013 6:04:13 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Washi

Purple / red hair at six? Obviously the parents are a bit out there. I do feel sorry for this child.


64 posted on 02/27/2013 6:24:31 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Jeff Winston
What if you have a child who simply and consistently insists from infancy that he is a girl.

Put him on stage.

no matter what you do, he insists he's a girl and not a boy, and won't be cast into a male identity no matter what you say or do? What do you do then?

Try to profit from the little freak.


65 posted on 02/27/2013 6:30:28 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: raybbr
"I'm beginning to wonder... Are these people being paid to do this? Are they willing to destroy their children's life for some reward from a Soros-like endowment just to create societal turmoil and destroy the country?"

Palestinian terrorists are. How much difference is there?

66 posted on 02/27/2013 6:33:20 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Jeff Winston

Children that age do not think or talk that way unless some crazy adult is putting in their head


67 posted on 02/27/2013 6:36:56 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ann Archy
He probably dressed in the girl's clothes to get ATTENTION!!

at 18 mos, I am thinking mommy dressed him

68 posted on 02/27/2013 6:41:10 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jeff Winston
Or are Christians supposed to pretend that moral dilemmas don't exist?

Nope, we recognize them easily, ever since the first one, "Hath God said?"

69 posted on 02/27/2013 6:41:12 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: 9YearLurker

bump


70 posted on 02/27/2013 6:41:56 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Washi

What I don’t understand is, why the parents of this child or anyone who finds themselves or a family member in this situation don’t work on “fixing the mind to match the body” instead of “fixing the body to match the mind”. Seems like the first one would be less traumatic on all parties involved. Lazy parenting, I think.

“Transgendered 6 year old”...smh...


71 posted on 02/27/2013 6:43:09 AM PST by babyfreep
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To: MacMattico

Do 4 year olds know the difference between a boy body and girl body.


72 posted on 02/27/2013 6:54:15 AM PST by mouse1
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To: Jeff Winston
So a manipulative child with a selfish habit of gravitating towards girl norms in order to seek attention away from his brother should be coddled by State because the parents failed at disciplining their child? Do you have kids (Emphasize plural)?

My third child tried to pull this stunt in order to gain attention and manipulate our surroundings (Yes at a young age children can be very crafty schemers) to cater to him. Guess what, after 6-7 months of fighting off the scheme he returned to gender norms (Horrifying thought to the homosexual/transgendered crowd).

Unless this kid has demons caused by others such as sexual abuse or pressure from an outside influence (An adult or "entertainment choices") its all lack of discipline. If conditioned the parents should find the cause, confront, and heal. If the parents egg this child on, the parents should be charged with abuse.
73 posted on 02/27/2013 6:59:06 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: GeronL

Maybe somebody thought his disabled sibling was getting too much attention?


74 posted on 02/27/2013 7:27:10 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: mouse1

Not in a vital way, I would argue.

Hence their disagreement would be with the identity they associate with each sex—boys become president, girls play with dolls, etc.. I’d take their disinterest in whatever they associate with their given sex, therefore, to simply be reason for broadening their idea as to what boys and girls like and can do. Boys can like cooking and girls can like sports, or whatever.


75 posted on 02/27/2013 7:29:35 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: GeronL

I could be wrong but I thought I read where he/she was one of triplets and that one of the girls was handicapped.....maybe mom was “replacing”.....who the hell knows!!


76 posted on 02/27/2013 7:39:46 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: ASouthernGrl
So was he born with both parts? I know a girl that was in my school that that happened to. She was a little “butch” looking but turned out to be a model and a beautiful woman. I think at some point she had surgery to remove the “male” parts. Not sure if this is what happened to this child though.

They are not talking about an Hermaphrodite, they are talking "transgendered" which simply means a person who thinks they should be the opposite sex. A 3 yo child is hardly qualified to make that sort of decision, these parents should be tried and thrown in jail for child abuse.

77 posted on 02/27/2013 8:29:23 AM PST by calex59
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To: Jeff Winston

Recognize it as a mental or physical illness and treat it accordingly. I wouldn’t be surprised if the parents were positively reinforcing this behavior, thus grooming him.

These conditions are treatable. Either there is a genetic or epigenetic effect on a developing embryo or it is environmental. All those things can be fixed.


78 posted on 02/27/2013 8:48:16 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: rollo tomasi
So a manipulative child with a selfish habit of gravitating towards girl norms in order to seek attention away from his brother should be coddled by State because the parents failed at disciplining their child? Do you have kids (Emphasize plural)?

My third child tried to pull this stunt in order to gain attention and manipulate our surroundings (Yes at a young age children can be very crafty schemers) to cater to him. Guess what, after 6-7 months of fighting off the scheme he returned to gender norms (Horrifying thought to the homosexual/transgendered crowd).

Unless this kid has demons caused by others such as sexual abuse or pressure from an outside influence (An adult or "entertainment choices") its all lack of discipline. If conditioned the parents should find the cause, confront, and heal. If the parents egg this child on, the parents should be charged with abuse.

I think you've given the best response of any in this thread to my out-loud musings.

I can see that such behavior could very, very well be an attention-seeking device. I also think that when a child is young and developing, in the vast majority of instances their mind and identity are probably flexible enough to be molded in a particular direction. In other words, I certainly think it's very possible for parents to mess up a child. I will also agree that there are many, many instances of completely wrong-headed opinions from doctors and psychologists. Just because someone has a degree after their name does not necessarily mean their opinion is of any value.

I do still wonder whether there are instances in which the kind of approach that worked for you simply doesn't work. I've never met a child who was born without feet, and I've never known or met conjoined twins. And as far as I know, I've never met a hermaphroditic child. But I know that such persons do exist.

79 posted on 02/27/2013 9:31:09 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: 1010RD

See my response to rollo tomasi. I think your response is a good response as well.


80 posted on 02/27/2013 9:33:10 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Washi

Incredible. What other perverse wonders shall we see in our “enlightened” society?


81 posted on 02/27/2013 9:37:40 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Jeff Winston

Children are stubborn but eventually give in. Of course the child in question has gone way off the deep end. Not sure if something else involved (Abuse) or parents gleefully rewarding/encouraging defying the norms. Either way, society should not be obligated to cater to any dysfunction that intrudes on the realm of individuals’ rational rights (This case the females’ lair of privacy in the bathroom); help yes, encouragement no.


82 posted on 02/27/2013 9:45:08 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: grellis; Jim Robinson

Yes, I have children.

The more I think about this situation, it’s starting to become more clear to me.

Parents have triplets. Two boys, girl. They also have two other children (the article doesn’t say whether older or younger).

Children always compete for attention. This is especially true in families with 5 kids, and it’s especially true for triplets.

Lily (girl triplet) contracts meningitis at 4 months, and becomes disabled. So among the triplets, you have Lily, Max, and Coy.

From the photo, it looks like Max may be the taller triplet.

So who gets all the attention? Lily, the special-needs girl. Who’s in the middle wanting attention? Coy. How does Coy get attention? Well, maybe if Coy is a girl like Lily, he will get more attention, too.

Enter doctors and psychologists. Yes, if Coy is saying he’s a girl, then he must have that identity. You will damage him if you don’t play along. Yes, we’re experts. That will be $495, please.

Sound about like the scenario we have?


83 posted on 02/27/2013 9:46:34 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: rollo tomasi
Not sure if something else involved (Abuse) or parents gleefully rewarding/encouraging defying the norms.

It doesn't sound like either of these to me. But I think I've started to piece together what's probably going on here. It seems to me probably more like a case of overstretched parents who don't know what to do and have been misguided by "professional" advice. See my post 83.

84 posted on 02/27/2013 9:49:24 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Ann Archy

That could very well be true!


85 posted on 02/27/2013 11:21:52 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jeff Winston
That's a pretty logical result of what had to have begun with the parents...the boy grabbed the ball that was thrown his way and is running with it. But he didn't come up with this on his own. This is a monumental failure of parenting, and as I stated earlier--it is child abuse.
86 posted on 02/27/2013 11:23:32 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Washi
But the transgender girl is being home schooled this semester because she has been denied access to the girls’ bathroom...

The child is not a girl and never will be a "she", even after the surgical multilation and chemical treatments are complete.

87 posted on 02/27/2013 11:26:46 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, love ya, but do not agree that Jeff Winston is “pushing” it. He has simply asked an extremely tough-to-answer question, what CAN/WOULD/SHOULD we do about/with those who are truly afflicted?

I fully agree that the parents should be locked up if it can be proven that they caused the crisis; that is pure abuse.


88 posted on 02/27/2013 11:38:20 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
What should we do about those afflicted? Absolutely nothing. It's none of our business. Nor is it any of government's business. It's a private family matter. And the afflicted have no business trying to make it a public concern.
89 posted on 02/27/2013 11:46:43 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

JR, Winston has been a leftist troll since the day he signed up. Sometimes a “concern” troll, sometimes just a regular out leftist troll.


90 posted on 02/27/2013 2:03:34 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Jeff Winston; Jim Robinson

The “brain structure” crap is non-scientific crap, just as the claim that homosexuals had brain differences was crap and the homoagenda pushers had to admit that later.


91 posted on 02/27/2013 2:09:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Jeff Winston

I have some experience.

I know a child who is not in her mid teens. She wants to be a man. She is so fearful of her sexuality that she wants her breasts removed. She is eating her way into bulk and it is distorting her face.

She is the most controlling child I have ever met. She never backs down. Her drama is about control...all of it.


92 posted on 02/27/2013 2:24:46 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: GeronL

>>You should see the comments at the site.... ugh

Very impressive for a “conservative” military industrial town.


93 posted on 02/27/2013 7:42:25 PM PST by TArcher
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94 posted on 02/27/2013 8:05:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TArcher

Colorado Springs is where the UC Campus did tell women to piss and vomit if someone tried to rape them. lol


95 posted on 02/27/2013 8:08:01 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Chickensoup
She wants to be a man.

wierd

was she molested early in life? You know, the Chastity Bono treatment??

96 posted on 02/27/2013 8:11:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I saw the comments. Wonder if it was THEIR child? Would they get the kid they transgender surgery or a lobotomy?


97 posted on 02/28/2013 12:56:29 AM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: GeronL

Not that she is admitting. Gets lots of negative attention though.

Lots of control.


98 posted on 02/28/2013 4:27:45 AM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Washi

I suspect that you’re exactly right about the parents’ need for attention. Apparently, Jeremy Mathis, the father of these FIVE children, is working on an Associate of Arts Degree in Mass Communication; I have no idea how he is supporting 2 adults and five very young children, one of whom appears (from a photo)to be moderately to severely disabled.

Did anybody notice that the parents claimed that the “transgender” child wanted a PINK blanket, not a BLUE one? How would a child know that pink = feminine?

This child (Coy) may also crave attention and his behavior may have something to do with the tragic illness of his triplet sibling and the attention she gets, as well as the quality of parenting to which he is exposed.


99 posted on 02/28/2013 12:47:24 PM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: Washi
Did you read about the stupid parents in Sweden who are raising their child as an *it*? They do not reveal whether the child is a male or female and dress him or her in gender neutral clothing and use will not use he or she while referring to their child. If there are parents disturbed enough to so pyschologically confuse their own child then it should not be too surprising that there would parents who may be confusing their child in more under-the-radar ways that can cause a child to believe that they are really the opposite sex.
100 posted on 02/28/2013 8:05:48 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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