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Raid on ALS patient's home spotlights fight for medical marijuana
TAMPA BAY TIMES ^ | February 28, 2013 | John Romano

Posted on 02/28/2013 10:18:49 AM PST by Lexington Green

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To: GraceG
They could make a MJ oil inhaler type device, the Marijuasna smoke is carcinigenic if not more so than regular cigarette smoke.

Both points already addressed in the post you replied to:

"for certain patients, such as the terminally ill or those with debilitating symptoms, the long-term risks [of smoking] are not of great concern. [...] it will likely be many years before a safe and effective cannabinoid delivery system, such as an inhaler, is available for patients. In the meantime there are patients with debilitating symptoms for whom smoked marijuana might provide relief. [...] Until a nonsmoked rapid-onset cannabinoid drug delivery system becomes available, we acknowledge that there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting." ( http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6376&page=7 and page 8)

41 posted on 02/28/2013 12:54:44 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Unbeknownst to the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office, the people they were investigating have been leaders in a push to legalize cannabis for medicinal purposes in Florida.

I wouldn’t want to bet on that.


42 posted on 02/28/2013 2:14:46 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: hannibaal
By your logic all narcotics should be banned.

By your logic no narcotics should be controlled or banned.

43 posted on 02/28/2013 2:28:47 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: GraceG
So they can make Tobacco into gum and Patches, but they cannot make Marijuana into a pill????? This is the MAIN issue I have with “Medical Pot”

If tobacco was classified as a schedule 1 narcotic like pot the R&D that made those patches and pills never would have happened.

44 posted on 02/28/2013 2:37:15 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Obadiah
Why not advocate legalizing the plant-based drugs, cocaine or heroin too?<>I'll see that and raise you one...I want to see Walmart and Target competing to sell the highest quality meth for the lowest price.
45 posted on 02/28/2013 2:39:47 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Alaska Wolf; hannibaal
By your logic no narcotics should be controlled or banned.

Can't speak for him but it's pretty much mine.

46 posted on 02/28/2013 2:42:47 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: All

I love to read these WOD threads, they’re almost as sad as the “War Between the States” threads.


47 posted on 02/28/2013 2:54:38 PM PST by orlop9
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To: Alaska Wolf

No I dont think they should be banned. There is nothing as intoxicating as alcohol when it comes to drugs allowing you to do crazy things. If that is allowed in society I dont understand why drugs arent allowed. If people are thinking about their children then they should do a little parenting instead of letting a law decide what they can or cant do. The same rules can be put as the ones currently in place with alcohol, court mandated rehab etc.
I seriously think it is a massive waste of time and taxpayer money to jail thousands of drug abusers.


48 posted on 02/28/2013 3:30:58 PM PST by hannibaal
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To: Orangedog
Can't speak for him but it's pretty much mine.

No licensed pharmacies, pharmacists or regulation of pharmaceutical companies? Just have a buyer beware society?

49 posted on 02/28/2013 3:57:30 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: hannibaal
There is nothing as intoxicating as alcohol when it comes to drugs allowing you to do crazy things

Are you expressing an opinion based on personal experience or do you have a credible source for that claim?

50 posted on 02/28/2013 4:05:04 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: AppyPappy
I know it’s illegal but I want it therefore I should be allowed to have it.

Yeah, 'cuz some politicians somewhere said it was illegal. So, therefore, I can't have it and must live my life as my betters think I should. Think for a minute and attempt to expand your thought to guns.

If they're illegal, do you just roll over?

And don't go all 2nd Amendment on me, either. The Constitution protected all rights -- even those not mentioned specifically. Your comment shows a great respect for the rule of laws but not too much for liberty.

51 posted on 02/28/2013 4:42:31 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Maybe privately certified pharmacies by something like Underwriters Labs that does it with other products, but no government granted monopolies.

It can’t be all that hard. It was all legal and over the counter 100 years ago and there wasn’t mass murder and mayhem in the streets. Time to take a page from our great grandparents who had the character to ad mid they made a mistake with their prohibition and correct it.


52 posted on 02/28/2013 5:17:05 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
Maybe privately certified pharmacies by something like Underwriters Labs

Who regulates, certifies and controls the ULs?

Time to take a page from our great grandparents

Shall we re-institute slavery also?

53 posted on 02/28/2013 5:33:18 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Reputation does all the control needed for grown ups. People trust ratings from organizations like UL and consumer reports because they earned it not because some political hack gave them a badge and a gun.

And I’m not sure how old you are, but my great grand parents weren’t alive in the 1860s. But nice try at diversion.


54 posted on 02/28/2013 5:44:35 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
People trust ratings from organizations like UL and consumer reports because they earned it

UL is one of several companies approved to perform safety testing by the US federal agency, OSHA. Are you claiming that they cannot be influenced by money?

And I’m not sure how old you are, but my great grand parents weren’t alive in the 1860s.

I'm old enough to know that many people here had great grand parents who were alive in the 1860s.

55 posted on 02/28/2013 6:16:59 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: BfloGuy

When they made dog fighting illegal, did you just roll over?


56 posted on 02/28/2013 6:35:53 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Orangedog
Who regulates, certifies and controls the ULs?

With statements like that and the sheer hyperbole like comparing pot with bringing back slavery, is there a doubt in your mind that you're talking to a progressive? You'll get nowhere arguing the Constitution with any progressive.

57 posted on 02/28/2013 6:37:07 PM PST by SwankyC (NO PROGRESSIVES. This Means Liberals and Republicans! Same Thing.)
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To: Obadiah

Why not advocate legalizing the plant-based drugs, cocaine or heroin too?
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You’ve had cocaine before at your dentist (that Lidocaine injection) ,, and opiates many times ... after knee surgery perhaps .... why don’t you distill your argument down to “recreational” drugs .. that would be more accurate.


58 posted on 02/28/2013 7:05:08 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Alaska Wolf
UL is one of several companies approved to perform safety testing by the US federal agency, OSHA. Are you claiming that they cannot be influenced by money?

Sure they can. But after a few people get burned their reputation is trashed and no one will take their recommendations seriously. Think of Jim Cramer for example. People who follow his advice, well...a fool and his money were lucky to hook up in the first place.

I'm old enough to know that many people here had great grand parents who were alive in the 1860s.

Good for them.

59 posted on 02/28/2013 7:06:04 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: SwankyC

I know. I’m waiting for the appeal to authority very soon.


60 posted on 02/28/2013 7:07:22 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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