Posted on 03/09/2013 1:12:13 AM PST by Kaslin
I asked the president, can you kill an American on American soil, it should have been an easy answer. It’s an easy question. It should have been a resounding, an unequivocal, “No.” The president’s response? He hasn’t killed anyone yet. -- Rand Paul
I do not believe that question deserves an answer. -- Lindsey Graham
Mr. Holder’s letter answers Mr. Rand’s question, “Does the president have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill Americans not engaged in combat on U.S. soil. The answer to that question is 'no.’”-- Jay Carney
I don’t think that what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people. -- John McCain
Poor, poor John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Here they were discussing new tax hikes and amnesty with Barack Obama over a sumptuous dinner and that rakish scamp Rand Paul made it impossible for them to enjoy the fine cuisine.
It was bad enough that he was picking a public fight with Barack Obama, but that scalawag actually confronted Obama over a constitutional issue! Didn't he understand that just isn't done in Washington?
Worse yet, Rand Paul won and he WON BIG! He made Obama look bad, got Democratic Senator Ron Wyden to join in on his filibuster, and he thrilled the conservative base in the process. Obviously, exciting conservatives is a terrible idea because John McCain didn't take a single stand that electrified conservatives in his entire presidential campaign and look how well that turned out!
As a result of this whole fiasco, the Obama Administration is now admitting that it doesn’t have the right to use a drone to kill American citizens on American soil. Is that really the road Republicans want to go down? High profile confrontations with the Democrats on conservative issues directly relating to the Constitution that can be turned into big political winners?
That's certainly not the formula George W. Bush used in his second term. John McCain and Mitt Romney didn't go that way either. No, they stuck to a tried and true formula. They showed their bipartisan spirit by being tougher on other Republicans than their Democrat opponents. When they did disagree with their opponents, they used lots of forgettable boiler plate language to make sure it didn't stick in anybody's mind. No sir, they didn't go in for any of these flashy attention-grabbing tactics like marathon filibusters.
Moreover, doesn't Rand Paul understand that the Republican Party's consensus strategy is to stay perpetually on defense? The Democrats attack and we spend all our time explaining that we're not horrible people. If a Republican in D.C. does fire back, we have to make sure that it's so boring that no one even remembers what was said five minutes later. After all, effective criticism gets the attention of the liberals in the press and they might say mean things about us. If it really scores points, Rachel Maddow might even call you a racist and David Frum might write that people like you are ruining the Republican Party. Are we really going to win that way?
Of course, not! Ideally, we'd just retreat on every issue, but these doggone conservatives who vote Republicans into office keep demanding that the politicians they send to D.C. actually represent their values and interests. How unreasonable can you get? Everybody knows the way that Republicans win is by convincing everyone that they're just like the Democrats, but not quite as a bad. Then when the Democrats screw up badly enough, people will realize that we're the lesser of two evils and then we'll get into office and prove it!
Granted, there are other establishment approved tactics we can pursue: Like talking tough about how we're not ever going to give in on principles and then folding or making lots of noise about how horrible Obama's cabinet nominees are before we allow them to be confirmed. It's also perfectly acceptable for Republican politicians to whine that Democrats aren't being fair, call for more bipartisanship, or to promise to do the right thing later on in exchange for doing more of the wrong thing now.
Really, that's the worst thing about Rand Paul's irresponsible little stunt. Twitter and Facebook were going wild, people were tuning into C-SPAN for hours at a time to watch, Libertarians were saying nice things about a Republican, and conservatives across the country loved it. When you create that kind of energy and on top of it, you WIN, it can only lead to demands for more of the same.
Is that really a road we want to go down? Actually trying to succeed? After all, trying to win is hard! The liberal mainstream media will criticize you if you're effective. The comfortable same old, same old has to change. You can't keep relying on the same well connected consultants, leaders, and old faces that keep failing and you have to turn to new voices. Isn't it better to be thought of as reasonable, moderate fellows who lose honorably while the country slides into oblivion than it is to actually strive for victory? John McCain and Lindsey Graham think so and it's EXACTLY that kind of approach that has been causing the Republican Party to lose.
The conservatives can get off McCain’s lawn only when Motorhead moves next door to make his lawn die.
McStain needs to dry up and blow away.
He does nothing but accelerate the demise of America.
I thank GOD every day that I was able to escape the USSA.
> I asked the president, can you kill an American on American soil, it should have been an easy answer. It’s an easy question. It should have been a resounding, an unequivocal, “No.” The president’s response? He hasn’t killed anyone yet. — Rand Paul
What he meant was: 1) that not that he has been caught at, 2) not by his hands but...he may have ordered an assassination from time to time (usually just those types that could prove he was gay or how radical he really was when he was younger), and 3) I will have the hit team pick them up off their feet so that they are not touching U.S. when they kill them....: )
> I asked the president, can you kill an American on American soil, it should have been an easy answer. It’s an easy question. It should have been a resounding, an unequivocal, “No.” The president’s response? He hasn’t killed anyone yet. — Rand Paul
What he meant was: 1) that not that he has been caught at, 2) not by his hands but...he may have ordered an assassination from time to time (usually just those types that could prove he was gay or how radical he really was when he was younger), and 3) I will have the hit team pick them up off their feet so that they are not touching U.S. soil when they kill them....: )
The old coots that are in bed with the rats are feeling the heat, turn it up until we scortch thier a##es, traitors!
Poor McCain trying to have a nice dinner with Obama while Rand Paul is causing a commotion in the Senate. How rude! It must have been such an embarrassment for the champagne sipping establishment.
Rand Paul is in a very, very powerful position. If he plays his cards wisely, 2016 is his.
Not if the media finds something to continually mock him about.
McCain and Graham are going to pay a price for their rant on Paul as the American people have known/seen all along what Rhino's those two are. When the little guys challenge the “good ole boys”, the old boys loose their status. Again, Paul didn't do that, he only helped them get attention.
Could it be that McCain came back from his “dinner”, partially under the influence of alcohol, thus causing his “motor mouth”?
Just curious as to where you went that is any less socialist than America?
Not sure what is meant by less socialist but I enjoy my life as a part time resident here in Colombia. Im an American and will NEVER give that up. I can be counted on to defend my country/constitution.
Have to wait on Paul. He is saying a lot of the right things but then so did his crazy daddy. Plus he has the same followers.
At this point Id say he has no chance at all of becoming the nom.
Rand is a better choice than Palin. Palin is damaged goods in the minds of the public.
This made my day. One of the greatest quotes in history.
“We’re the kind of band, if we moved in next door to you, your lawn would die.”
- Lemmy Kilmister
You called America the USSA and said you had escaped. I interpreted that as escaping socialism. I apologize if I misinterpreted. Don’t know a whole lot about Colombia, but as bad as our problems are, I don’t know any first world countries that are any better.
you are confusing me with another post..but I agree with ya!
The only reason that pile of pus is still alive is because even God doesn’t want to have to deal with him.
In a fit of anger John McCain got shot down and then captured.
He should learn to control his temper
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