Posted on 03/09/2013 1:12:13 AM PST by Kaslin
I asked the president, can you kill an American on American soil, it should have been an easy answer. It’s an easy question. It should have been a resounding, an unequivocal, “No.” The president’s response? He hasn’t killed anyone yet. -- Rand Paul
I do not believe that question deserves an answer. -- Lindsey Graham
Mr. Holder’s letter answers Mr. Rand’s question, “Does the president have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill Americans not engaged in combat on U.S. soil. The answer to that question is 'no.’”-- Jay Carney
I don’t think that what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people. -- John McCain
Poor, poor John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Here they were discussing new tax hikes and amnesty with Barack Obama over a sumptuous dinner and that rakish scamp Rand Paul made it impossible for them to enjoy the fine cuisine.
It was bad enough that he was picking a public fight with Barack Obama, but that scalawag actually confronted Obama over a constitutional issue! Didn't he understand that just isn't done in Washington?
Worse yet, Rand Paul won and he WON BIG! He made Obama look bad, got Democratic Senator Ron Wyden to join in on his filibuster, and he thrilled the conservative base in the process. Obviously, exciting conservatives is a terrible idea because John McCain didn't take a single stand that electrified conservatives in his entire presidential campaign and look how well that turned out!
As a result of this whole fiasco, the Obama Administration is now admitting that it doesn’t have the right to use a drone to kill American citizens on American soil. Is that really the road Republicans want to go down? High profile confrontations with the Democrats on conservative issues directly relating to the Constitution that can be turned into big political winners?
That's certainly not the formula George W. Bush used in his second term. John McCain and Mitt Romney didn't go that way either. No, they stuck to a tried and true formula. They showed their bipartisan spirit by being tougher on other Republicans than their Democrat opponents. When they did disagree with their opponents, they used lots of forgettable boiler plate language to make sure it didn't stick in anybody's mind. No sir, they didn't go in for any of these flashy attention-grabbing tactics like marathon filibusters.
Moreover, doesn't Rand Paul understand that the Republican Party's consensus strategy is to stay perpetually on defense? The Democrats attack and we spend all our time explaining that we're not horrible people. If a Republican in D.C. does fire back, we have to make sure that it's so boring that no one even remembers what was said five minutes later. After all, effective criticism gets the attention of the liberals in the press and they might say mean things about us. If it really scores points, Rachel Maddow might even call you a racist and David Frum might write that people like you are ruining the Republican Party. Are we really going to win that way?
Of course, not! Ideally, we'd just retreat on every issue, but these doggone conservatives who vote Republicans into office keep demanding that the politicians they send to D.C. actually represent their values and interests. How unreasonable can you get? Everybody knows the way that Republicans win is by convincing everyone that they're just like the Democrats, but not quite as a bad. Then when the Democrats screw up badly enough, people will realize that we're the lesser of two evils and then we'll get into office and prove it!
Granted, there are other establishment approved tactics we can pursue: Like talking tough about how we're not ever going to give in on principles and then folding or making lots of noise about how horrible Obama's cabinet nominees are before we allow them to be confirmed. It's also perfectly acceptable for Republican politicians to whine that Democrats aren't being fair, call for more bipartisanship, or to promise to do the right thing later on in exchange for doing more of the wrong thing now.
Really, that's the worst thing about Rand Paul's irresponsible little stunt. Twitter and Facebook were going wild, people were tuning into C-SPAN for hours at a time to watch, Libertarians were saying nice things about a Republican, and conservatives across the country loved it. When you create that kind of energy and on top of it, you WIN, it can only lead to demands for more of the same.
Is that really a road we want to go down? Actually trying to succeed? After all, trying to win is hard! The liberal mainstream media will criticize you if you're effective. The comfortable same old, same old has to change. You can't keep relying on the same well connected consultants, leaders, and old faces that keep failing and you have to turn to new voices. Isn't it better to be thought of as reasonable, moderate fellows who lose honorably while the country slides into oblivion than it is to actually strive for victory? John McCain and Lindsey Graham think so and it's EXACTLY that kind of approach that has been causing the Republican Party to lose.
I could vote for Rand Paul if he decides to run in 2016. At least in the primary
McCain is the like the family patriarch of a rich family who has been hoarding the family’s riches from generations of accumulations, keeping them from going to the rightful inheritors, and reserving them for his favorite child (Graham), the spoiled, little brat, who’s never done anything meaningful other than follow daddy’s orders. The rest of the Republican Party represent the rest of the family, expected to toe the line and not make waves if they want to continue to get their piddly monthly subsistence, or they’ll be kicked out of the family.
This seems to be the entire article. I can not find a longer version of it
I’m not leaving before I put a burning paper bag of dog poop on his front porch!!!
Hehehe, I’ll show him!!!
Who’s going to ring the doorbell???
I’d like to have my dog take one giant, stinking ‘0bama’ on McLame’s lawn, and then have Light in the Loafers Lindsey step in it!
That in itself is the prime illustration of who is farther left, as well as who has the tendency to use Alinskyite tactics.
Much ado about nothing... the Progressives have not suitcase-NUKED an America City ...
((( YET! )))... i.e. by foreign or domestic operatives.. or both..
They are not ready YET, but may be soon..
Stampeding Sheep is WHAT THEY DO..
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Rand Paul and the Rest of You Damn Conservatives Need to Get Off John McCain’s Lawn!, Kaslin wrote:
This seems to be the entire article. I can not find a longer version of it
It was edited before you got it.
Couldn't have planned it better! Perfect storm.
BTW, nobody cares what McCain and Graham think! They have had a hand in the mess we're in...a heavy hand!
The following is from the site
My latest Townhall column is called, Rand Paul and the Rest of You Damn Conservatives Need to Get Off John McCain’s Lawn!. Here’s an excerpt from the column.
I asked the president, can you kill an American on American soil, it should have been an easy answer. It’s an easy question. It should have been a resounding, an unequivocal, “No.” The president’s response? He hasn’t killed anyone yet. — Rand Paul
I do not believe that question deserves an answer. — Lindsey Graham
Mr. Holder’s letter answers Mr. Rand’s question, “Does the president have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill Americans not engaged in combat on U.S. soil. The answer to that question is ‘no.’”– Jay Carney
I don’t think that what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people. — John McCain
Poor, poor John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Here they were discussing new tax hikes and amnesty with Barack Obama over a sumptuous dinner and that rakish scamp Rand Paul made it impossible for them to enjoy the fine cuisine.
It was bad enough that he was picking a public fight with Barack Obama, but that scalawag actually confronted Obama over a constitutional issue! Didn’t he understand that just isn’t done in Washington?
Once again, you can read it all here
As you can see his link goes directly to his article in Townhall.com
I can not find any other link. If you have one, I'd appreciate it if you would post it
Very well said
I allways felt anything I posted here never gets read and as many times as I’ve seen your postings it never occured to me you were one of those. How about reading what I originally wrote?
Never commented or inferred there was another article or another source.I may have inferred (1000 words) that what Hawkins reported on was nothing anybody else of a conservative stripe was also saying but certainly did not attack it.
My comment was what Rand really accomplished was he took the focus away from that collaboration dinner and I cited Limbaugh reaction by McCain and Lindsey as having a hissyfit because it took attention away from them having their Vichyssoise with Our Fearless Leader.
In doing so Rand shut down what would have been the whole campaign of bi-partisan cooperation that would have been shoved down conservatives throats.
While I did not conclude my response expressing it that way I certainly left that conclusion. Which by the way wasn’t the conclusion Hawkins came up with..
My reply to John Hawkins : John, go fornicate with yourself.
Not to worry, Rand Paul will be made "damaged goods", as you call it, in no time. How do good people become "damaged goods" in our best of all possible worlds?
I promise, too, that tomorrow's Sunday morning talking heads will either ignore Rand Paul entirely, or they will play the Alinsky card - dragging out everything from UFOS and bigfoot to Hitler to try to smeat and ridicule him. I doubt they'll invite him on and let him speak for himself though. He would Newt-er them in debate.
That , My FRiend, will never happen. He was re-elected to another term in 2010 I believe. He had primary opposition and defeated said opponent. For some unknown reason, the people of Arizona love him.
“Just curious as to where you went that is any less socialist than America?”
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I did not find so much socialism even in Slovakia, where I lived before moving to the Philippines, where there is little or no Socialism.
Obumbo, however, wants a USSA, and half of the population there, all idiots, seem to agree.
He’ll be 80 in 2016 when he is up for reelection
Huh? Why would you say such a thing?
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