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Suburbs secede from Atlanta. 'Detroit of the South' bludgeoned by troubles
WND ^ | 3/10/2013

Posted on 03/11/2013 3:38:20 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

As Detroit – beset by violence, debt and social woes – prepares to undergo a historic takeover by the Michigan state government, the city of Atlanta could be sliding toward a similar fate.

Some are quietly wondering whether Atlanta is in danger of becoming “the Detroit of the South.”

The city has experienced an ongoing succession of government scandals, ranging from a massive cheating racket to corruption, bribery, school-board incompetence and now the potential loss of accreditation for the local DeKalb County school system.

For several years, problems of this sort have fueled political reforms, including the creation of new cities in northern Atlanta suburbs. Due to the intensification of corruption scandals in DeKalb, some state-level reform proposals could become national news very soon.

‘Super-white majority’ cities

As a result of the unsavory politics in urban Atlanta, northern suburban communities acted to distance themselves. Beginning in 2005, many communities began the process of incorporating into cities.

Thus far, Milton, Sandy Springs, Brookhaven, Dunwoody, Chattahoochee Hills and Johns Creek have done so.

These cities, after breaking away politically from urban Atlanta, have become so successful that a libertarian think tank, the Reason Foundation, has featured Sandy Springs as a model of effective government. The Economist has also applauded the northern Atlanta cities for solving the problem of unfunded government pension liability and avoiding the bankruptcy that looms over some urban areas. The new cities may soon be able to create their own school districts, which would free them even further from the issues besetting Atlanta.

While incorporation has been popular with residents of the new cities, not all of Atlanta is as satisfied. The Georgia Legislative Black Caucus filed a lawsuit in 2011 to dissolve the new cities, claiming they were a “super-white majority” and diluting the voting power of minorities.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Georgia; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: atlanta; blackkk; brookhaven; chattahoocheehills; detroit; dunwoody; georgia; johnscreek; michigan; milton; sandysprings

1 posted on 03/11/2013 3:38:20 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2995520/posts


2 posted on 03/11/2013 3:43:17 AM PDT by upchuck (Waiting, hoping, begging for the straw. Time to bring pent up frustration to fruition.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Want to know the underlying cause? It’s due to affirmative action. When people are awarded education, private sector jobs, government jobs, and welfare based not on merit but on the basis of skin color, you will eventually have a degradation of resources and overall quality of life.

Listen, the free market is what works best. It orders supply and demand. Markets are distorted by government intervention.

Just take a look at the presidency of the United States. People voted for Barack Museveni Obama on the basis of his skin color and not on his qualifications. Does anyone in their right mind not know that Romney was eminently more qualified to run the executive branch than Obama?

Wherever affirmative action plays out, it will result in things being run based on the principle of what I call LCD - the least common denominator.


3 posted on 03/11/2013 3:54:33 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: veritas2002
Just look at how Africa has progressed.........(do I really need a sarc tag?)
4 posted on 03/11/2013 4:00:24 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Altura Ct.

No different from States wishing to secede in European countries. Economic slavery is what the people opposing the secession are fighting for. They’re saying you must stay and pay for what we want you to pay for.


5 posted on 03/11/2013 4:03:12 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

The cost will be dumped on all of us by way of the feds. If you think cities like Detroit and Atlanta are in bad shape, wait till the bill comes due for Chicago and LA.


6 posted on 03/11/2013 4:05:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Depends when the feds step in. Hopefully not with this clown in office now. I agree with you thats going to be the rout the left wants and when that time comes we’ll just have to decide across the nation if we want to be like the new cities outside of Atlanta.


7 posted on 03/11/2013 4:08:06 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Altura Ct.

I’ll take getto slums for a Thousand Alek...


8 posted on 03/11/2013 4:09:12 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Altura Ct.

Who would have thought that the greatest criminal in Michigan history would be a politician? /sarcasm

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Day-13-jury-deliberations-over-in-Kilpatrick-trial/-/1719314/19225658/-/6kxkw8z/-/index.html


9 posted on 03/11/2013 4:12:20 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Day-13-jury-deliberations-over-in-Kilpatrick-trial/-/1719314/19225658/-/6kxkw8z/-/index.html
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The 13th day of deliberations? My bet is that one or more of the jurors is going for “jury nullification” of a brother. It’s happening more and more.


10 posted on 03/11/2013 4:20:36 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: PGalt

Hopefully to be joined by many others once the books are opened in Detroit.


11 posted on 03/11/2013 4:20:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: veritas2002
know that Romney was eminently more qualified to run the executive branch than Obama?

The stuff my neighbor's dog leaves on my lawn is more qualified to run the executive branch than 0bama.

12 posted on 03/11/2013 4:33:49 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: upchuck

Remind me again who’s in charge there.


13 posted on 03/11/2013 5:02:10 AM PDT by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: Altura Ct.; metmom; wintertime
The core issue is education, or rather the implementation of a spoils system in what is supposedly an education system. But private schools - or even individual parents operating on a do-it-yourself basis - are better at education than politicians are. Once admit that, and the solution is painfully obvious.
Privatize education, and the worst likely result is that some parents won’t provide any better education than their children are already (not) getting. But that would institutionalize individual responsibility - a concept which all too many people reject out of hand. Of course, as the article makes clear, there is already individual choice, hence individual responsibility, at some level:
the mere mention of losing accreditation has impacted the housing market in DeKalb, with at least one potential buyer directing his realtor not to search for homes in the county.
The only issue is whether individual choice can be an efficient scalpel or whether, for the convenience of crooks, the choice of real estate must remain coupled with the choice of school.

14 posted on 03/11/2013 5:13:04 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: wiggen

“Depends when the feds step in. Hopefully not with this clown in office now”

Yeah, for sure. As we go into the last year of Obama’s term we face the most danger. So, I think what he will be able to do, get away with, will depend on whether the GOP holds the House. Would be helpful if we (GOP) could take back the Senate too. But sadly, we seem to be plagued with “The Stupids” when it comes to taking back the Senate. But, hope does spring eternal, over and over :)


15 posted on 03/11/2013 5:16:40 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Noumenon
Maynard Jackson 1974 - 1982 (first & second terms) Democratic
Andrew Young 1982 - 1990 (first & second terms) Democratic
Maynard Jackson 1990 - 1994 (third term) Democratic
Bill Campbell 1994 - January 7, 2002 (first & second terms) Democratic
Shirley Franklin January 7, 2002 - January 4, 2010 (first & second terms) Democratic
Kasim Reed January 4, 2010–present

These are the people who have been or are in charge of Atlanta for the last 39 years and are responsible for turning it from a shining city on a hill into a super-ghetto hell-hole.

16 posted on 03/11/2013 5:23:44 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Privatize?! How about stripping out ‘schools’ from the tax base and have parents pay for their own brood?

No kids? no taxes. For everyone else, you take care of your own. I know, novel concept.

Makes about as much sense to send kids off to strangers to be educated, as much as it is to send them off to day-care to raise....and expect them to come ‘back’ in the mold of the parents (religion, politics, thinking, etc.)

I notice too the Black Caucus (talk about racist) is trying to keep the tax slaves on the plantation. You would have thought after 150+ years....


17 posted on 03/11/2013 5:28:10 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
“.... or whether, for the convenience of crooks, the choice of real estate must remain coupled with the choice of school.,,,”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hm?....I am reminded of the crony capitalists in “Atlas Shrugged”.

Very good point! Government K-12 socialist-entitlement schooling is just as much a part of fascism as crony capitalism. It is likely the **cause** of crony capitalism and the growing threat of tyrannous fascism in the U.S. Why?

Answer 1): Children who attend government socialist-entitlement and godless schools **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the classroom. They risk learning to throw their private religious belief in the trash can at the door to their public life.

Answer #2: Children in government owned and run K-12 schools risk learning that any voting mob powerful enough to give them tuition-free schooling is powerful enough to give them **lots** of free stuff. They risk learning to see government as their redeemer and savior.

18 posted on 03/11/2013 5:40:38 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

We recently moved to some land in a “bad” school district.

When people said, “oh... you shouldn’t move there, the schools are not very good”, we said, “so?”


19 posted on 03/11/2013 5:42:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Altura Ct.

No way. Atlanta is a problem child, but it is no “Detroit.” Mostly because GA is a right to work state... And Atlanta has lots government offices.


20 posted on 03/11/2013 6:03:47 AM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: N. Theknow

At the risk of being labeled “racist”, they all had an alternate agenda. The mega tax dollars poured in by the suburbs that seceded were either paid to cronies, skimmed in kickback schemes, funneled to other parts of town, where they evaporated. Campbell apparently failed to grease all the palms, because he’s doing time.


21 posted on 03/11/2013 6:09:11 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: Altura Ct.
From the article:

"A key leader in the black community...who wishes to remain anonymous, bemoaned the “disturbing tendency of black electorates to not elect the smartest and brightest, or even the cleverest.

Nonetheless, he believes that there is a social contract between the northern and southern parts of the county.

“So when you allow powerful groups of citizens to opt out of a social contract, and form their own, it may benefit the group opting out, but it hurts the larger collective,” he said."

Allow me to translate. Urban black voters tend to vote for those who promise to redistribute white people's wealth to them. Nevertheless, the "social contract" requires that white people allow this to happen because if they don't it is bad for the "larger collective".

This ends one of two ways. Neither is good.

22 posted on 03/11/2013 6:16:13 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Allow me to translate. Urban black voters tend to vote for those who promise to redistribute white people's wealth to them.

And what they get is "those who redistribute white people's wealth to themselves."

The reason was explained in a book written by Charles Murray and published in 1994.

23 posted on 03/11/2013 6:32:29 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
-----disturbing tendency of black electorates to not elect the smartest and brightest, or even the cleverest.-----

How can they say that. They elected Sinthia, even named an Atlanta boulevard after her.


24 posted on 03/11/2013 6:38:14 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: MrB
Your homeschool is excellent, of course and not at all driven by the socialist-entitlement school ratings.
25 posted on 03/11/2013 6:40:56 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: BigCinBigD

A similar thing happened to the City of Memphis, Tn under the reign of Mayor Willie Harrington. Memphians fled the city for northern suburbs and south into Desoto County, Mississippi. The results for Desoto County were the thousands of middle and upper middle class who moved there from the city.


26 posted on 03/11/2013 6:42:39 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: Tainan
Just look at how Africa has progressed.........(do I really need a sarc tag?)

No.

27 posted on 03/11/2013 6:58:42 AM PDT by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bert
How can they say that. They elected Sinthia, even named an Atlanta boulevard after her.

After Cynthia got to be too much of an embarrassment even for the people of Dekalb County they elected Hank Johnson, who thought that adding 8000 Marines to the island of Guam would upset the balance and tip it over.

28 posted on 03/11/2013 7:05:35 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Altura Ct..
As a result of the unsavory politics in urban Atlanta, northern suburban communities acted to distance themselves. Beginning in 2005, many communities began the process of incorporating into cities. Thus far, Milton, Sandy Springs, Brookhaven, Dunwoody, Chattahoochee Hills and Johns Creek have done so. These cities, after breaking away politically from urban Atlanta, have become so successful that a libertarian think tank, the Reason Foundation, has featured Sandy Springs as a model of effective government. The Economist has also applauded the northern Atlanta cities for solving the problem of unfunded government pension liability and avoiding the bankruptcy that looms over some urban areas.

29 posted on 03/11/2013 7:07:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Altura Ct.

The Georgia Legislative Black Caucus filed a lawsuit in 2011 to dissolve the new cities, claiming they were a “super-white majority” and diluting the voting power of minorities.

=== === ==

but racism in reverse is ok?


30 posted on 03/11/2013 7:14:03 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: N. Theknow

Interesting list, no?

Now, I wonder what this crew all have in common?


31 posted on 03/11/2013 7:35:48 AM PDT by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: House Atreides; PGalt

The verdict is in.

GUILTY!


32 posted on 03/11/2013 7:50:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Altura Ct.
A key leader in the black community and a driving force in support of the lawsuit, who wishes to remain anonymous, bemoaned the “disturbing tendency of black electorates to not elect the smartest and brightest, or even the cleverest.” Nonetheless, he believes that there is a social contract between the northern and southern parts of the county.

Once a group has shown themselves to be corrupt and criminal - there IS NO SOCIAL CONTRACT.

It ceases to exist...

Decent people removing themselves from the corrupt is a healthy and powerful incentive. If the good people of Detroit had done the same years ago, major parts of that city could have been saved. The healthy parts of Detroit could be a new base to save the city. Now they'll have to bulldoze much of what 'was' Detroit.

That doesn't have to happen to the Atlanta region.

In the long run it's best to restrict and marginalize corrupt parts of a city - not to subsidize corruption with suburban taxes... New cities are a good start.

33 posted on 03/11/2013 8:07:36 AM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: veritas2002

Time to end affirmative action, a failed, costly idea.


34 posted on 03/11/2013 8:38:48 AM PDT by bfree (Biden '13)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

35 posted on 03/11/2013 8:48:42 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: House Atreides; cripplecreek; All

Watching now on TV2 Detroit. HOORAY jury! HOORAY prosecutors! HOORAY Detroit! The Motor City has moved up from rock bottom!

Excelsior!


36 posted on 03/11/2013 8:50:56 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Actually Campbell is out now. He had a fairly short sentence.

And it is worth noting that most of these new suburban cities had very little to do with the City of Atlanta. It’s not like they seceded from it or anything.


37 posted on 03/11/2013 3:24:26 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Buckhead (Lenox Square, Phipps Plaza area) has been discussing seceding by forming a city, but approval of the legislature is required.


38 posted on 03/12/2013 1:01:28 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I predict it will never happen short of armed insurrection.


39 posted on 03/12/2013 2:51:09 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Ping


40 posted on 03/15/2013 10:43:22 AM PDT by AngieGal
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