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Extreme poverty is also a violation of human rights, says Argentinean cardinal (New Pope)
Catholic News Agency ^ | Oct 1, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 03/14/2013 6:19:02 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota

The Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, has called for an ethical response to solve the problem of social debt, saying that, not only do terrorism, repression and murder violate human rights, but also extreme poverty and the “unjust economic structures that give rise to great inequalities.”

Social debt is “immoral, unjust and illegitimate,” the cardinal said, emphasizing that this is especially true when it occurs “in a nation that has the objective conditions for avoiding or correcting such harm.” “Unfortunately,” he noted, it seems that those same countries “opt for exacerbating inequalities even more.”

Argentineans have the duty “to work to change the structural causes and personal or corporate attitudes that give rise to this situation (of poverty), and through dialogue reach agreements that allow us to transform this painful reality we refer to when we speak about social debt,” the prelate said.

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Cardinal Bergoglio said the challenge to eradicate poverty could not be truthfully met as long as the poor continue to be dependents of the State. The government and other organizations should instead work to create the social conditions that will promote and protect the rights of the poor and enable them to be the builders of their own future, he explained.

The problem of debt and social justice must be of concern to every sector of society, he added, including leaders in government, politics, finance, business, agriculture, industry, unions, the Church and other social organizations.

Not Liberation Theology; but rather a restructuring to allow more opportunity for the working poor? Hard to tell from what I've been able to find thus far.

1 posted on 03/14/2013 6:19:02 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota
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To: LucianOfSamasota
” Social debt is “immoral, unjust and illegitimate,”

That seems to be very much in line with our founders.

As a very important source of strength and security, cherish public credit. One method of preserving it is, to use it as sparingly as possible; avoiding occasions of expense by cultivating peace, but remembering also that timely disbursements to prepare for danger frequently prevent much greater disbursements to repel it; avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt, not only by shunning occasions of expense, but by vigorous exertions in time of peace to discharge the debts, which unavoidable wars may have occasioned, not ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burthen, which we ourselves ought to bear.

- GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796
2 posted on 03/14/2013 6:25:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

He is not a socialist. But many on the Right act as if we should punish the poor and those who are imprisoned rather than work to help them transform themselves.

If we are hard-hearted we cannot build a decent and just society. We must live as God teaches us to live and set an example through good works to every one, particularly those most in need of it. Compassion and love cannot be built by a government; it can only come from people acting out of fear of God, not out of fear of the state.


3 posted on 03/14/2013 6:25:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

There is no system that exacerbates extreme inequality of opportunity and thus promotes poverty more severely than a Marxist/socialist system. Such a system has been empirically established to consistently and repeatedly impoverish the vast majority of people under its control and concentrates privilege, wealth, and power in the hands of a central few.


4 posted on 03/14/2013 6:26:06 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
A big issue throughout much of Latin America and the Third World is a question of deeds to property ~ the laws don't protect the poor, and the governments do not enforce what rights they have to property.

In the United States we have laws that are enforced. They are revolutionary ~ and we think that's how things ought to be. The pope agrees. That doesn't mean we can count on him to endorse free markets.

5 posted on 03/14/2013 6:26:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Best cure for poverty=capitalism


6 posted on 03/14/2013 6:26:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: goldstategop

Put it this way, it’s not charity to give away money taken at the point of a gun.


7 posted on 03/14/2013 6:27:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The Pope is in favor of the social market. That is a market that is tempered by ethics and a concern for the welfare of all. The Church is both against communism and laissez-faire capitalism.


8 posted on 03/14/2013 6:29:02 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dfwgator

Exactly. More wealth was created in the West in the period from the late 1700s through the early 1900s than at any other time or place in human history. And that is when Capitalism, in its “harshest” form, was in full force. Private charity is fine and eveyone should engage in it. But it should never be called “moral” for the government to take money from one person and give it to another person as a transfer payment or other benefit. That is simply a government policy and in many cases a horribly wrong government policy. I don’t know enough about this Pope to know if he supports private charity or is going to start going around saying that government has an obligation to hand out cash and other benefits to the poor. I hope he doesn’t.


9 posted on 03/14/2013 6:31:58 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Extreme poverty is also a violation of human rights, says Argentinean cardinal (New Pope)

The local news was talking about how he was into "social justice" otherwise know as socialism. Not sure were they got their information. If true, already I don't like him.

10 posted on 03/14/2013 6:32:02 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: muawiyah

Its more than charity; its a social obligation to uplift your fellow man. But this originates with individuals ans society and not from the government. Catholic social justice is not the social justice identified with the Left, which thinks the state is the source of justice. The true source of justice is God.


11 posted on 03/14/2013 6:32:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: iacovatx

Socialism makes everybody equally poor except those who rule.


12 posted on 03/14/2013 6:35:38 AM PDT by Rapscallion (The people sense what Obama has in store for America.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
"In recent decades, he has emerged as a champion of social justice and the poor who has spoken out against the evils of globalization and slammed the “demonic effects of the imperialism of money."

I think that as the first Jesuit pope, he's a very interesting choice -- an aspect that seems to be glossed over by most of the MSM. I wouldn't be surprised if he had pretty much everyone "challenged" -- or extremely annoyed, depending on perspective -- before he's finished.

13 posted on 03/14/2013 6:35:44 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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More wealth was created in the West in the period from the late 1700s through the early 1900s than at any other time or place in human history.

Well, no.

Exponentially more wealth was created in the last 50 years than in all of human history previously.

It is likely much of this wealth is built on a shaky foundation of government and private debt, but that doesn't mean the wealth wasn't created.

Admittedly, the industrial and scientific revolutions of the 18th through 20th centuries laid the foundation for post-WWII growth, but they didn't get much of the benefit.

14 posted on 03/14/2013 6:37:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: LucianOfSamasota
My understanding of Christian teachings (as imperfect and incomplete as it is) suggests that Christ was,to a degree at least,a “socialist”.He made very clear His expectations regarding charitable endeavors.However,He also said “render unto Ceaser” and in that way,IMO,he made it clear that charity needn't be enforced by “Ceaser” nor need it be funneled through him.
15 posted on 03/14/2013 6:38:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Ugh.

We have no right to another’s labor, wealth, or property.

And in the 3779 verses in the four gospels, Jesus Christ NEVER comments on the state’s or society’s various methods for running economies or political systems, much less offer a prescription for preference for one over another.

Christ shows himself repeatedly to be sympathetic with the poor and sympathetic with the oppressed, but never does he offer prescriptions to deal with these worldly issues.

If we can extrapolate at all from the four gospels regarding the economic policies and practices of the state, it would be to suggest that Christ might theoretically eschew the state’s oppression of men by it political meddling in the free choices of men. But even this would mischaracterize Christ’s mission.

He came to save souls, not rearrange social structures.


16 posted on 03/14/2013 6:39:14 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

He sounds quite like a re-distributionist. Gotta spread the wealth to pay off that social debt!


17 posted on 03/14/2013 6:40:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: muawiyah

You’re the only person I know besides myself to point out the problem of Real Property Record Titles systems in the rest of the world. It was written up about 8 years ago, I think, in connection with the problem of fighting poverty in Egypt, a country where one might get a deed in the form of a bill-of-sale, but.........there’s no place to file it to perfect one’s property claim. However, I’d have thought that with South America and the natural follow-on from Spanish Law there would have been central registries for the recordation of deeds/mortgages, etc. And I’d have thought they’d have the infamous “Notarial” records systems. I know they do in Puerto Rico.


18 posted on 03/14/2013 6:40:34 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Even in the Bible is says something like ‘don't worry about the poor, they will always be with us...’

That is a sort of recollection I have from long ago.. can someone corroborate it for me?

Anyway... what could be MORE immoral and unethical than stealing from honest, hard-pressed and hard-working people to subsidize the amoral and irresponsible lives of 4th and 5th generation losers who WILL NOT take responsibility for themselves or their OWN, routinely bad choices???!!

19 posted on 03/14/2013 6:41:31 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: goldstategop

>> But many on the Right act as if we should punish the poor

Seriously?


20 posted on 03/14/2013 6:42:11 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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