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ACTUAL 21-PAGE OBAMACARE APPLICATION. Read 'em and weep.
3/14/2013 | The feverish socialists in the White House

Posted on 03/14/2013 10:12:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz

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To: Lazamataz

Among other things I am an insurance expert.

This is sick. It is legalized slavery.


61 posted on 03/14/2013 12:10:47 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: isthisnickcool

Please elaborate....


62 posted on 03/14/2013 12:13:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: Spunky

http://ifa.ifamedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/CMS-Health-Insurance-Application.pdf


63 posted on 03/14/2013 12:14:20 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: doc11355

http://ifa.ifamedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/CMS-Health-Insurance-Application.pdf


64 posted on 03/14/2013 12:16:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: Lazamataz

Is there a link for this? Where did you get it, Laz?


65 posted on 03/14/2013 12:36:14 PM PDT by madison10
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To: isthisnickcool
This is sick. It is legalized slavery.

I agree. It's also government collection of household information under threat of penalty. No way I'd have anything to do with this form!

From page 1: We'll keep all the information you provide private, as required by law. I saw nothing on any of these pages which limited exchange of information among government agencies or gave any definition of "as required by law."

From page 6: Check out the OTHER INCOME you're re require to give for your spouse. This is something most people don't know about yet. The IRS will be in regular contact with employers about household income, not just the employee's insurance through the employer. You can see more evidence of this on page 15.

From page 18: I know that there may be penalty if I'm not truthful. What kind of penalty? I know that my information on this form will only be used .... No, I don't know that! They haven't specified exactly what, if any, privacy guidelines there are, yet the applicant is asked to sign "I know...". What BS! Again the phrase will be kept private as required by law is used. Then it states, I know that I must tell the Health Insurance Marketplace if anything changes (and is different than) what I wrote on this application. So we can see that the Marketplace is an information collection and benefit assignment tool, and NOT really a marketplace at all. The applicant isn't buying anything. He's being assigned a price for a product he's not free to choose or he's routed into a government program.

More from page 18: I know that under federal law, discrimination isn't permitted on the basis of race, color, national origin... No, I don't know this in these days and times. In fact I wonder about racial preferences given the number of questions related to minorities, especially hispanics.

More from page 18: The applicant is asked to confirm that no one on the application is incarcerated or in a medical facility. It's not specified at what point the applicant must inform the marketplace if anyone on the application falls under these categories or what constitutes a medical facility.

More from page 18: Now they're back to family income again. ...the Health Insurance Marketplace will use income data including information from tax returns of household members. This will determine yearly eligibility for help paying for health insurance for the next 5 years.

From page 19: The authorized representative in effect becomes a POA. There doesn't seem to be a lesser option to authorize someone to assist you (i.e. get information, ask clarifying questions) without at the same time authorizing them to take action on your behalf.

More from page 19: Did you remember to: Tell us about everyone in your family & household, even if they don't need insurance? Now it's not just household, it's family AND household.

Man, I want NOTHING to do with this nonsense!

66 posted on 03/14/2013 12:36:22 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: Lazamataz
Please elaborate....

I'd be happy to. Look at the application. This made me sick to my stomach. It has NOTHING to do with underwriting of insurance. In fact, the application has nothing to do with insurance. It is the most intrusive thing I have seen in my lifetime. The entire application is ** WAIT!! ** - it not even an application for something, it is an invasive, grotesque, horrid and terrifying lash to the back of a free person. The sole purpose of such an OBAMAnation such as this is intimidation. This is akin to pulling people our of their homes and putting the Star of David on their sleeve so they can be identified and tracked. But in this case it is an ELECTRONIC Star of David. This chills me to my core because I completely understand the purpose of this and that is to control the population. NAZIS!

OBAMACARE IS SLAVERY!!

How is that for an elaboration?

67 posted on 03/14/2013 12:38:20 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Lazmataz

Nevermind, I saw the links later on. Couldn’t get them to save, though. Thanks for the update.


68 posted on 03/14/2013 12:47:26 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks, that certainly cheered me up.


69 posted on 03/14/2013 1:02:59 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Lazamataz

Last time I applied for health care was over 29 years ago. Two questions, my wife’s name and my address.


70 posted on 03/14/2013 1:04:14 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Lazamataz

As this totally predictable unending nightmare unfolds, President Barry will soon be the MOST REVILED POTUS in history...even by his own former supporters!


71 posted on 03/14/2013 1:11:15 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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As this totally predictable unending nightmare unfolds, President Barry will soon be the MOST REVILED POTUS in history...even by his own former supporters!

Nope. Not with the Pravda Press in his pocket. All blame for any negativity or nightmarish aspects of OTrauma's agenda will be promptly and gleefully assigned to Evil Republicans. The State-Run Pravda Press has an agenda, damn you, AND THEY MEAN TO PUSH IT.

72 posted on 03/14/2013 1:16:43 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: isthisnickcool
It's actually a pretty good elaboration.

But I expected that, from you. :)

73 posted on 03/14/2013 1:17:41 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: Lazamataz

“We’ll keep your information private, as required by law.”

Sorry, if I tell you, it’s no longer private.

Gibbs Rule #4


74 posted on 03/14/2013 1:38:32 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Mr. K
Over my several decades working for the gub'mnt I redesigned or designed well over 1,000 forms.

Let me say this about that form ~ it's stupid. The designer should be staked out next to a fire ant mound.

As we all know Obama is unable to attract talented people. That's not gotten better in his second term.

75 posted on 03/14/2013 2:00:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Under the guise of health care they can demand any information they desire.”

This application is nothing more than an information delivery system to formulate a national database of all the personal information of every resident of the USSA. Not to mention you have to give them your checking acct information so they can go into your account and deduct whatever they think you owe in premiums and/or penalties.


76 posted on 03/14/2013 2:16:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Lazamataz

“All blame for any negativity or nightmarish aspects of OTrauma’s agenda will be promptly and gleefully assigned to Evil Republicans.”

That certainly worked in 2012, but since Jan. 1 Barry has been making the Progs look stupid and they hate that.

Every American making up to $92,000 who wants a subsidy to pay for non-employer Obamacare bought from he “market exchange” will have to fill out this stupid form for their household...and that is just to get through the gate to find out whether they qualify to buy on the “exchange.”

When they get to the “exchange” they will find that they can’t afford an Obamacare policy even with the tax credit!

How PO’d with they be? The media ultimately follow their audience and when their audience turns on Barry they must, too, just like they did when Barry made all of his supporters look stupid in the 1st debate.

The Daily Rundown (of the GOP) began today with Chuck Todd denouncing and mocking Barry for pretending that OFA was a non-political organization.

Yesterday the top story on WaPO was how Americans have disapprove of Barry’s handling of the economy.

Barry became a de-fanged Lame Duck on March 1 when he lost the sequester battle in a spectacular flame-out, IMO!


77 posted on 03/14/2013 2:31:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks!


78 posted on 03/14/2013 3:43:15 PM PDT by Spunky
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