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Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl
Yahoo! Sports ^ | Sunday, March 17, 2013 | Dan Wetzel

Posted on 03/17/2013 3:15:39 PM PDT by Jyotishi

Ma'lik Richmond, center, reacts as the verdict for his and Trent Mays' rape trial is delivered. (Reuters)

Inside a small Steubenville, Ohio, courtroom filled with sobbing and exhausting emotion, Judge Thomas Lipps found Trent Mays and Ma'lik Richmond guilty Sunday of raping an intoxicated 16-year-old girl. Lipps sentenced both defendants to a minimum of one year in a youth correctional institute with the determination for a longer sentence coming from child-service experts.

Mays received an additional year for transmission of nude photos, to be served after his rape sentence is completed. Mays and Richmond also will have to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.

"It provides a great incentive to do well," said Lipps, who could have ordered Mays and Richmond to remain behind bars until they turned 21.

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2animals; animals; oldnews; prison; rape; rapists
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1 posted on 03/17/2013 3:15:39 PM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

Scum. Too many people are raising scum.

Heaven help us.


2 posted on 03/17/2013 3:22:11 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jyotishi

One year??

One year??


3 posted on 03/17/2013 3:25:40 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jyotishi

Drunk on their own small-town greatness, they operated unaware of common decency until they went too far, wrote too much, bragged too many times and, finally, on a cold Sunday morning, were hauled out of a small third-floor courtroom as a couple of common criminals.

Their ride to the Scioto Juvenile Correctional Facility was waiting for them out back, two floors down, out in the real world.

*cue Baltimora’s Tarzan Boy*


4 posted on 03/17/2013 3:28:28 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: GeronL

Yes one year. The judge may have received a call (and more) from Obama.


5 posted on 03/17/2013 3:28:49 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: GeronL

... with the determination for a longer sentence coming from child-service experts.

I’m not sure what exactly this means, but I hope that it means that they’ll be there till they turn 21.


6 posted on 03/17/2013 3:29:28 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: GeronL
Where's Charles Bronson when we need him?


7 posted on 03/17/2013 3:29:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jyotishi

“minimum of one year in a youth correctional institute.”

Boy, they really treat their jocks like royalty.


8 posted on 03/17/2013 3:31:12 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: definitelynotaliberal

It means that unless they kill one of the guards at the youth facility they will be out in a year on good bevavior.

That’s what it means.

The Judge also said no contact with the girl they rape until they are 21 years of age. Aint that cute.

If they were meant to be at the facility until they turn 21 , that would have been unnecessary.


9 posted on 03/17/2013 3:33:11 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Jyotishi

When you fail as a society to impart morality, when that morality is chased away and replaced with what fictionally passes as “reasoning” and steal from the human spirit the guidepost that is enduring and eternal then you can expect failure moments like this to be common place. Neither of these two young men fit the “violent criminal” motif, neither “seem” to be the hoodlum type, BUT, lacking moral base and fortitude they will act upon urges once more easily controlled with a healthy respect and fear of what is wrong and a desire to uphold a good and decent set of standards. One where the man looks upon a woman as someone to be respected, put on a pedestal and revered and PROTECTED.
I am broken hearted for their families, but more so for the girl who paid a terrible price...she has her own issues to face, clearly, but NONE of them should have included what those boys did to her, her indiscretion did not convey license for them in any way whatsoever.


10 posted on 03/17/2013 3:35:49 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Jyotishi

A thread from yesterday if anyone is interested in the comments thereon:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2997733/posts

Video of Judge issuing ruling about 1 minute long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYEHc9E8YQE&feature=player_detailpage

Google articles:
https://www.google.com/search?q=steubenville+grand+jury+call&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


11 posted on 03/17/2013 3:36:44 PM PDT by deport
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To: ICE-FLYER
When you fail as a society to impart morality

The failure was at the parents level. And that goes in case one of the biological parents weren't around, in that case, they are ESPECIALLY responsible. And the parents of the victim shouldn't be spared from judgement.

12 posted on 03/17/2013 3:39:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: definitelynotaliberal
what is really sad is how many other young people stood around and laughed and didn't lift a finger to help this gir?..I'm thinking there had to be dozens of young men and young women who watched or knew it was going on.....

despicable...

13 posted on 03/17/2013 3:42:15 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Jyotishi

Wow, what a sad story of shattered lives all around.


14 posted on 03/17/2013 3:42:46 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: dfwgator

I do NOT DISAGREE with you, I am speaking to us as a whole...God is GONE from our schools...Morality is NOT part of the equation, it is NOT supported in PUBLIC anymore and I expect all would know this difference.

YES, the parents are responsible, more so the young man as he does KNOW that this was wrong but felt comfortable enough to make this choice. Our moral fabric is torn, our strong societal fabric is not nearly what it was...we need to return to it.


15 posted on 03/17/2013 3:44:01 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

And when parents abdicate their responsibilities, something is going to fill that void, and that thing is big government.


16 posted on 03/17/2013 3:44:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jyotishi

In this instance I am going to assume “intoxicated” means passed out drunk.

In this messed up culture, at age 16/17 and you cannot induce a hormone fueled teenage girl into consensual sex... you’re TOTAL losers. What’s the matter guys ?... You got no guile, and you got no game.


17 posted on 03/17/2013 3:46:15 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: dfwgator

I agree...but remember...those parents are products of our modern day society. That society has REJECTED God in the public square. While they are responsible I do say that society has rejected it wholesale and we are only now beginning to reap our reward for such.


18 posted on 03/17/2013 3:46:53 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: deport

Thank you. Very useful.


19 posted on 03/17/2013 3:47:07 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

There was also a house full of people who did nothing and said nothing. Plus the parents who owned the homes and allowed these parties to go on.


20 posted on 03/17/2013 3:49:44 PM PDT by BinaryBoy (Socialism is slavery)
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To: Jyotishi

We treat small-ball athletes as royalty. It happens in a lot of places where athletes get away with murder. Ditto anyone who passes as a celebrity.


21 posted on 03/17/2013 3:56:20 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Jyotishi

They may be on the receiving end in jail. Don’t drop the soap.


22 posted on 03/17/2013 4:07:59 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Jyotishi
Dirty sobs didn't get half what they deserve.
23 posted on 03/17/2013 4:12:30 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: cherry

Yeah, so much for the “sisterhood”....


24 posted on 03/17/2013 4:16:03 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: Jyotishi
This sort of thing was not a crime when I was that age.

It was known as "Friday Night".

I guess the 34 year-old Portugese neighbor who took me into her bed when I was 16 in 1968 would still be in prison under today's standards.

Sheesh.

25 posted on 03/17/2013 4:16:55 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: beethovenfan

Maybe they could share a cell with Jerry Sandusky.


26 posted on 03/17/2013 4:17:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ICE-FLYER

I read somewhere that there are up to 25 COACHES who knew about the rape and didn’t bother reporting it.


27 posted on 03/17/2013 4:23:49 PM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: elkfersupper

Really? You raped and took pictures of passed out drunk girls when you were 16 while your friends hooted and hollered? That was your typical Friday night?


28 posted on 03/17/2013 4:29:21 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Sporke

Which begs the question (and I have no doubt what you say is true..), what High school football team needs 25 coaches!!!

Take a look at the Steubenville Football web site (run by adults) http://www.rollredroll.com/football.htm

Do you get the distinct impression that some adults in that town really need to get a life?


29 posted on 03/17/2013 4:33:07 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: ICE-FLYER

Maybe getting rid of the Pledge of Allegiance, the Ten Commandments and prayer in school wasn’t such a good idea after all.


30 posted on 03/17/2013 4:34:30 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: bigdaddy45

That’s a geographic area that has been in economic decline for 40 plus years. Not sure if fracking has helped them out or not.


31 posted on 03/17/2013 4:36:20 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: dfwgator
And when parents abdicate their responsibilities, something is going to fill that void, and that thing is big government.

I was thinking the very same thing.

All those boys could have used a huge dose of dad from the time they were born.

32 posted on 03/17/2013 4:36:31 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: dfwgator
The failure was at the parents level. And that goes in case one of the biological parents weren't around, in that case, they are ESPECIALLY responsible. And the parents of the victim shouldn't be spared from judgement.

I would also add the parents where the party(s) were held. In today's litigious society what parent in their right mind allows alcohol to be served to minors?

33 posted on 03/17/2013 4:40:08 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: elkfersupper

“I guess the 34 year-old Portugese neighbor who took me into her bed when I was 16 in 1968 would still be in prison under today’s standards.

Sheesh. “

If some neighbor thing did that to one of my 16 year old sons I’d be LIVID.


34 posted on 03/17/2013 4:42:00 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: elkfersupper
"This sort of thing was not a crime when I was that age.

Bull! I'm 65 and "this sort of thing" DID NOT HAPPEN when I was in high school. Anyone that tried it would have been beaten into next week. I will follow the rules here and not tell you what I think of you for trying (lying) to defend the trash youth that does sh*t like this.

35 posted on 03/17/2013 4:43:11 PM PDT by jpsb
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“I guess the 34 year-old Portugese neighbor who took me into her bed when I was 16 in 1968 would still be in prison under today’s standards.”

Dear Penthouse,
You probably won’t believe this...


36 posted on 03/17/2013 4:44:17 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: jpsb

Thank you. I was shocked when I read that post.


37 posted on 03/17/2013 4:47:41 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Sporke
I read somewhere that there are up to 25 COACHES who knew about the rape and didn’t bother reporting it.

Well we know for a fact that there were a minimum of 6 parents that did a lousy job of raising their kids.

38 posted on 03/17/2013 4:48:14 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Ouderkirk

I’d be willing to speculate she was drugged. There’s a photo of two boys handling this girl like a sack of cement.

I personally think she was beyond “passed out”.

I’m thinking rohypnol.


39 posted on 03/17/2013 4:51:40 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Sporke

Seems like nobody is innocent in this case. Not one person stepped up to do what is right. Not the kids, not the adults.

The assumption that people are mere animals and that “everybody is doing it” could easily lead an unthinking person to presume that by just being in that situation this girl was looking to be had. If the guys hadn’t taken pictures and bragged, she wouldn’t even have known it happened. It would have been just the same old usual kids acting like animals while everybody laughs and thinks it’s no big deal. Including the sex ed teachers, coaches, parents, Hollywood, etc.

The fact is that if you turn off a person’s conscience you make them into a mere animal for a time, and you’re going to get animal behavior. And all those elements (sex ed teachers, coaches, parents, Hollywood, politicians, etc) have been turning off not only these kids’ consciences but the whole society’s conscience - saying this is all human beings (including our kids) are capable of so we should just make sure they can do these behaviors “safely”. Drugs and alcohol just finish the conscience-disabling.

But there is no way to “safely” engage in this garbage - either the intoxication or the sex. It always takes a toll, even if that toll is just (/s) to turn a human being into an animal, void of human compassion, dignity, and perception of what is sacred.

Abortion advocates tell us that there aren’t any victims in abortion. Just kill the defenseless and everything is all better. How does that differ from the mentality of drunk boys thinking that if a girl is passed-out-drunk and defenseless, just do what you want and everything is fine? The aborted baby doesn’t know what happened to it (”isn’t sentient”, according to the arguments) and neither did this girl (she wasn’t “sentient” at the time either), so no harm done to either, if you believe the “logic” of the abortion advocates. Like Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Sandra Fluke, etc...

What we have in this episode is a glimpse into the DEPRAVITY of all the lies our culture has accepted. There is no moral difference between Nancy Pelosi and these 2 boys, except that these boys did it for fun because the society was going to give them a pass (they thought) and Nancy Pelosi does it for power, while the society gives her a pass.

This case is a mirror for our society to see itself as it really is, in all its ugly hypocrisy and depravity. Unfortunately, I don’t think the people who have shaped this society to be this way will ever see this as their own handiwork.


40 posted on 03/17/2013 4:53:50 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: trisham
"I was shocked when I read that post."

Me too, shocked and angry that anyone would attempt to defend that kind of behavior. As a kid I was on the "wild side" as were my friends but NEVER in our wildest nights did anything close to gang raping a drunken chic happen, never. Even the worst of us would have gone bare knuckles on anyone that tried to rape a young (or old) women.

41 posted on 03/17/2013 4:55:43 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: nascarnation

Maybe if they put more effort into economic development than kid’s football maybe their economy would be better. How bad off can you be if you can afford 25 football coaches? Does every position get its own coach??


42 posted on 03/17/2013 4:55:50 PM PDT by wrcase
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To: Jyotishi
I blame almost everything sinfully tragic like this on abortion. Any nation that allows their mothers to kill their own young is a nation that does not respect [any] life, so a 16-year-old troubled (and drunk!) girl is easily fair game for all the players.

How does one end abortion? Check out the tagline. If you're not already participating, you're welcome to hop on board. :) http://www.acfp2000.com/Chapels/worldmap.htm
43 posted on 03/17/2013 4:56:25 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Ouderkirk
In this messed up culture, at age 16/17 and you cannot induce a hormone fueled teenage girl into consensual sex... you’re TOTAL losers.

They could have gotten consensual sex. They WANTED to rape her because it was rape. They thought it would be loads of fun. They should be put to death immediately.

44 posted on 03/17/2013 4:57:04 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
They WANTED to rape her because it was rape.

Now now, we need clarification from Whoopi Goldberg, as to whether or not, it was "rape" rape.

45 posted on 03/17/2013 4:58:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jpsb

I’m grateful that there are men like you. Thanks again.


46 posted on 03/17/2013 4:59:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dfwgator

Getting closer and closer.


47 posted on 03/17/2013 5:01:00 PM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: dfwgator

“Big Government” has been working on creating and filling that void since Woodrow Wilson. Hell, since TR.


48 posted on 03/17/2013 5:02:16 PM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

They said they didn’t think it was rape if it wasn’t forcible. She wasn’t telling them no. In their minds, their “mistake” may have been that they didn’t get to her while she was still able to give them a flirty look (consent). They may well have believed that any girl in the town would have said yes to them, because they were such hot stuff. Clearly the adults were all willing to say yes to them, on everything else. Why would they ever expect that somebody would say no to them? They were jocks; they were ENTITLED to whatever they wanted, and nobody has either the power or audacity to say no.

Just like Congress, or the foreign enemy combatant in our White House...


49 posted on 03/17/2013 5:02:57 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: dfwgator

The failure was at the parents level. And that goes in case one of the biological parents weren’t around, in that case, they are ESPECIALLY responsible. And the parents of the victim shouldn’t be spared from judgement

Include the failure of LEO’s


50 posted on 03/17/2013 5:06:34 PM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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