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Three Years On, Obamacare Has Become Irresistable
Townhall.com ^ | March 24, 2013 | Austin Hill

Posted on 03/24/2013 12:23:55 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: C. Edmund Wright

Do you mean the one that is advertised on TV?


21 posted on 03/24/2013 5:55:43 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, advertised on TV, Newsmax, and radio....not sure who wrote it, but Morris is pushing it hard. I’ve not read it, so I may be wrong, but it strikes me that it is a compliance book, of sorts, which I think is 180 degrees the wrong way to go.

Now, if I’m wrong on this...I’d be happy to know that...


22 posted on 03/24/2013 6:05:44 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: sodpoodle

That’s right on. When people get into an uproar about privatizing SS I point out to them that if you die early, the gov’t pockets your money and you can’t leave it to your heirs. This statistically affects black men more too.


23 posted on 03/24/2013 6:13:48 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: sodpoodle
Remember, not only did you and I contribute to Social Security but your employer did, too.
It totaled 15% of your income before taxes.
If you averaged only $30K over your working life, that’s close to $220,500.

The primary beneficiary of a socialist program is the socialist politicans. SS was made so Congress could spend more. Period.

24 posted on 03/24/2013 6:26:52 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

If we could have a law that would prevent people, who work for government or are receivers of government largess, from voting.

Then implement the Simple Tax - a yearly tax of 10 to 20 percent for EVERYONE (rich or poor) with no deductions, tax credits, or other loopholes.


25 posted on 03/24/2013 6:37:57 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jim Noble

Brilliant post.

“Doctors and patients being the decisionmakers is fine - it fact, it’s the only way to fly.”

One more element must be added....payment terms are between the doctor and patient as well.

With that, you have a way to fix the system.

Frankly I think completely eliminating SS, medicare, and medicaid - COMPLETELY is the way to go. That’s the only hope - though some will see it as contradictory, especially those on SS, medicare and medicaid.


26 posted on 03/24/2013 6:44:12 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: jonrick46
People will learn that eating out of the government trough does more harm in the long run.

.....those that sup with the devil need a long spoon....

27 posted on 03/24/2013 6:45:20 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Rusty0604

“When people get into an uproar about privatizing SS I point out to them that if you die early, the gov’t pockets your money and you can’t leave it to your heirs.”

Better yet, just eliminate it completely. If there is any money left over (and let’s be honest, there isn’t) then it is returned proportionally to those who paid it.

We then have a charity problem. This is a challenge that without government interference can be more easily solved than trying to sustain the existing system of benefits of all kinds.


28 posted on 03/24/2013 6:48:05 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
though some will see it as contradictory, especially those on SS, medicare and medicaid


29 posted on 03/24/2013 6:59:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I remember when my hometown had a good law. If you received welfare from the town, you could not vote. We need that law nationwide.


30 posted on 03/24/2013 7:23:49 AM PDT by abclily
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To: abclily

Should be discussed more on FR.


31 posted on 03/24/2013 7:31:04 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Kaslin

Isn’t KPMG the proud sponsor of Phil “I’m paying too much in taxes” Mickleson?


32 posted on 03/24/2013 7:52:58 AM PDT by logitech (I think it's time)
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To: Kaslin

One way or the other it won’t last long. Obamacare is the definition of unsustainable. It will collapse everything.


33 posted on 03/24/2013 9:43:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

All this means is that Americans are no smarter than the Russians, Chinese & Cubans etc. Socialism/communism sounds good and fair to the masses. Re-distribute wealth so you will get your fair share never fails to seduce.

After 40 years or so, the masses wake up because their lives are even worse. Then they begin the reversion to capitalism.

Who would have predicted 40 years ago China will have ONE MILLION new millionaires? And Russia now has a flat rate income tax and lots and lots of Billionaires. Cuba is still suffering under iron fisted dictatorship.


34 posted on 03/24/2013 11:12:13 AM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Kaslin
...and for those who are on the receiving end of the redistribution the agenda is completely irresistible.

Well; when yer robbin' Peter to pay Paul; you can ALWAYS count on Paul's support!

35 posted on 03/24/2013 12:25:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sodpoodle
THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT’S CALCULATION OF AVAILABLE SOCIAL SECURITY IS THEY FORGOT TO FIGURE IN THE PEOPLE WHO DIED BEFORE THEY EVER COLLECTED A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK!!!

Almost...

...the gummint sure had no CLUE that it would be legal to murder future American's before they drew their first breath.

55,000,000 paying INTO the system would sure help with the bills!!!

36 posted on 03/24/2013 12:28:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sodpoodle

Social Security was a transfer the wealth Ponzi scheme from day one. It is a tax which the government takes from you and gives to someone else. You are not owed a single penny and never have been. The money has not be stolen or misused. The system has and continues to work just as it was intended which is: causing it recipients to become dependents of the US Federal Government.

Social Security = Welfare.


37 posted on 03/24/2013 2:50:36 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Elsie

I am totally opposed to abortion. It is truly “death penalty for the pre-born”.

Having said that, if you examine the demographics of those aborted, I seriously doubt their survival would be a net positive for the SocSec system.


38 posted on 03/24/2013 2:56:27 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: savedbygrace

So if you and your spouse make $60,000 a year and are age 60, you pay about $475/month and the govt. pays about $1250. Sounds good, right? Except if you make $62,500 or more, you pay the whole $1725/month, because that $2500 extra per year means you’re suddenly rich!

Kathleen Sebelius and her entire crew of idiots should be taken out and shot!


39 posted on 03/24/2013 3:52:59 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Prince of Space

Do I hear an “I’m thirsty!” from the Tree of Liberty??


40 posted on 03/24/2013 5:12:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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