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Poll: 60% think federal gov't should recognize same-sex marriages (BS!)
CBS ^ | 3/26/2013 | staff

Posted on 03/26/2013 4:04:43 PM PDT by tobyhill

As the Supreme Court hears oral arguments in two high-profile cases this week - California's Proposition 8 and the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act - 60 percent of Americans think the federal government should legally recognize existing same-sex marriages and provide them the same federal benefits the government provides to heterosexual married couples. Just 35 percent do not think the government should do this.

The legality of same-sex marriage varies by state. When it comes to who should decide this issue, most Americans- 62 percent - think the decision should be left up to each individual state government, while just 26 percent think it should be up to the federal government.

Meanwhile, a slight majority of Americans (53 percent) thinks it should be legal for same-sex couples to marry.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; homosexualagenda; nambla; poll; polls; sodomy; ssm
If 60% think gay marriage should be legal then why does it get defeated every time it gets a state vote?
1 posted on 03/26/2013 4:04:43 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
why does it get defeated every time it gets a state vote?

That's not true any more, including my own state /barf

2 posted on 03/26/2013 4:08:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: tobyhill

Where was this poll taken ... at the local gay bar?


3 posted on 03/26/2013 4:09:36 PM PDT by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: tobyhill

“If 60% think gay marriage should be legal then why does it get defeated every time it gets a state vote?”

That is not quite accurate.


4 posted on 03/26/2013 4:11:20 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: tobyhill

The demographics of this "poll" would be interesting. Living in the midwest ... I call horse puckey.


5 posted on 03/26/2013 4:12:59 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: tobyhill

“If 60% think gay marriage should be legal then why does it get defeated every time it gets a state vote?”

You mean other than last year, when it swept the polls 4-for-4?

We really need to start acknowledging reality if we ever have any hopes of changing it.


6 posted on 03/26/2013 4:13:14 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: OKRA2012

True. In blue states they get 60%. In red states it’s about 30%.

There is one sure fire way to determine this. Create a Constitutional Amendment, call it the Civil Union Amendment and let the country vote.

I guarantee it will not get 67% of the Senate, the Majority of Governorships nor Congress. Of course the President will do it by Executive Fiat and the media will call him courageous.


7 posted on 03/26/2013 4:15:37 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: tobyhill

My thoughts exactly. Let’s see it put to a vote.

Pro-sodomy assclowns outspent the true marriage supporters 2 to 1 in the four states that voted last year....and won.

Let’s defeat them, folks.


8 posted on 03/26/2013 4:17:26 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: tobyhill

Just ask yourself what polls are for, and how was it taken. You can get the results you want by being judicious about how and where you take the poll.


9 posted on 03/26/2013 4:18:02 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: so_real

Living in the deep south I say the same. No way this poll isn’t rigged.


10 posted on 03/26/2013 4:19:45 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: EQAndyBuzz

There is not going to be a constitutional amendment regarding marriage.

At this point it looks like Prop 8 will go down by SCOTUS action, inaction or a vote of the people to overturn Prop 8.


11 posted on 03/26/2013 4:21:24 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: tobyhill

See BS


12 posted on 03/26/2013 4:22:25 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: highball

The reality is that the 4 Liberal states that voted for it is not representative of the rest of the nation. One of those states was just a vote not to allow a State Constitutional ban.

If a majority really want gay marriage then they should move to states where it’s legal and leave normal states alone.


13 posted on 03/26/2013 4:30:04 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

All I’m saying is that we can no longer make the claim that “it gets defeated every time it gets a state vote”. Not after a clean sweep.

And with the way it’s polling now across the country, we’re more likely to see popular votes to allow it in the coming years than to ban it.

Honesty matters, even when the news is bad. Maybe *especially* then.


14 posted on 03/26/2013 4:34:47 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: tobyhill

Weren’t the 4 votes really close as well?

So if they could barely pass the referendums in extremely liberal states, how the hell do they expect us to believe 60 percent support same sex marriage?

Just a year before, North Carolina passed a law that doesn’t even recognize civil unions, correct?


15 posted on 03/26/2013 4:40:26 PM PDT by HawkHogan
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To: tobyhill

How come I don’t know anyone who thinks that? Oh wait we are all bitter clingers. :-(


16 posted on 03/26/2013 4:44:23 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tobyhill

Americans better not forget the camel’s nose in the tent. If homosexuald ought to be able tomarry whom they love, then so should those who love two people or three or their ????

Children deserve their own biological parents in an intact home. Those who will not do that should not be supported by the society.


17 posted on 03/26/2013 4:45:32 PM PDT by amihow
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To: tobyhill
Just saw this on Drudge:
http://www.businessinsider.com/scalia-gay-marriage-prop-8-case-supreme-court-2013-3#ixzz2OgFvi39q

Seems good cop bad cop being played by the Supreme Court. Scalia bad, Roberts good.

18 posted on 03/26/2013 4:56:01 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: tobyhill
If 60% think gay marriage should be legal then why does it get defeated every time it gets a state vote?

Twice in California, we defeated the gay marriage issue. Overwhelmingly, a vote for traditional marriage. In California. Yet the 1 percenter activists got judges to block the vote. Why bother voting, if the majority gets overruled by butt licking judges?

19 posted on 03/26/2013 5:01:26 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: tobyhill

The US populous is to stupid to know the difference between Civil Union and Marriage, and the MSM is purposely blurring the difference.


20 posted on 03/26/2013 5:04:30 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: highball

Every day we hear of another politician who was once against gay marriage changing their opinion and are now for gay marriage.

We simply do not hear of politicians who were for gay marriage changing this opinion and are now against gay marriage.


21 posted on 03/26/2013 5:05:59 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: HawkHogan

Yes, they were all pretty close. But they only need 50% +1.

NC voted theirs in by 61% last year. That’s the same % CA voted in prop. 22 in the year 2000. So in 2012 NC basically tied the state of CA 12 years before. CA prop. 8 passed by 52% in 2008. That’s swinging 9% in 8 years. That trend doesn’t look too positive to me.

Freegards


22 posted on 03/26/2013 5:11:20 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: OKRA2012
Every day we hear of another politician who was once against gay marriage changing their opinion and are now for gay marriage.

We simply do not hear of politicians who were for gay marriage changing this opinion and are now against gay marriage.


That's because they're following the polls.

If public opinion was moving away from gay marriage, you'd see politicians eager to pander that way. But instead, national public opinion is moving quite strongly in the other direction, and the spineless politicians are falling over themselves to show how personally "enlightened" they are.
23 posted on 03/26/2013 5:26:00 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: tobyhill

Why would a bankrupt government allow same sex marriage? That’s cutting their own throats, especially when these man lovers will be getting all those nice tax perks on a two male income.

And think about all the health costs they’re gonna add to the commiecare system as a “family”. All their approved diseases, drug addictions, and survivor benefits when they take dirt naps before their 50th birthday.

That’s about as bad as abortion. Think about all the potential taxpayers they’ve lost over the years.

That’s plain dumb. DUMB I tell yah.


24 posted on 03/26/2013 5:54:26 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: SoFloFreeper

They also are indoctrinating our children with our money-—to make them pro-homosexual/pro-Sodomy. No sane person was pro-sodomy in the 50’s prior to mass indoctrination from Kinsey/Hollywood/Deep Throat. The Cultural Marxists knew to destroy Virtue, you sexualize the kids. Sex Ed finally got inroads in 1970-—to pervert the kids. After that, schools have created really immoral children who are like animals today. (Exactly what BF Skinnerean curricula is expected to do.) (Creating an Afghani worldview in our children).

Look at the book, “Shades of Grey”—all to promote anal sex so Hollywood can make evil, “good” and glamorous to kids. The young vote is where the majority is coming from now.

The kids have had intense conditioning with Pride Days in schools—BF Skinner “operant conditioning” so they are made to “feel” good about sodomy. Think of how dogs salivate when a bell rang for Pavlov. Association/emotions-—they control curricula to get the “right” response from kids. If they don’t “feel” good about sodomy—they “reeducate” and “change agents” make sure that after a year or two that child has the “right” mindset—worldview. Kids are targeted with testing. Those who don’t respond correctly WILL have their attitudes changed using peer pressure, humiliation, etc. Kids can NOT withstand this indoctrination.

I can’t express enough how EVIL the curricula is in public schools. It has been particularly evil, since John Dewey and Kinsey and when the Cultural Marxists combined Freud and Marx (took restraint off of sex). Sex Ed is always destructive to children. It would take me an hour to go into the psychology of having strangers give group lessons about something which is naturally private and intimate. it destroys innocence in children and removes morality from the sex act. The kids are trained like animals-—they literally can not use Reason by the time they get out of high school. Alan Bloom noticed this problem in the 80’s with his ground breaking expose “The Closing of the American Mind.

They are doing that with the psychological curricula in our schools. We allow sick perverts like Billy Ayers to design curricula and immerse it with Skinnerean cr*p and the psychology of Wundt.

Kids are put through Political Correctness factories where they are made to feel like haters and bigots if they say anything negative about disgusting anal sex. The Marxists control the language (frame every issue) with the media and write the curricula (Billy Ayers). The person who controls the dialogue (words are being twisted to mean nothing like “marriage’) controls all the perceptions.

We need to unplug the kids from the Marxist/Goebbels machine. Get them out of the “operant conditioning” classroom (Race to the Top, Goals 200 and Common Core). All public school curricula is designed to destroy Reason and make children “feel” what is “Right”.

Take your kids out of public schools—homeschool or Christian/Jewish schools. We need kids to understand the Constitution and be able to debate ideas again (Return Classical Education). We need God back in schools since our Rights come from God-—not Satan and sodomites.


25 posted on 03/26/2013 6:43:18 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: tobyhill

Polls have always shown that the public favors “same-sex marriage” - until the public goes into the voting booth, where they can’t be mocked and intimidated by the gay lobby.....


26 posted on 03/26/2013 9:42:48 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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