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To: driftless2

Yeah, on a few social issues (like gay marriage) blacks and Hispanics may be conservative. But I think that’s overstated, and it’s also almost meaningless. Blacks voted for the marriage Amendment in NC last year, and then voted for Obama a few months later. And if Hispanics were as socially conservatives as dolts like Rove would have us believe, then why haven’t they injected even the slightest bit of social conservatism into the Democratic party? Why are pretty much all representatives from heavily Hispanic districts so far left on pretty much everything?

I guess my main point is that it doesn’t really matter how socially conservative blacks or latinos are because other issues on which they are liberal (like economic/redistribution ones you mention) clearly matter more to them. So the idea that Republicans can make significant inroads with minorities based on social issues is a long shot at best.

And doesn’t it seem odd that the postmortem on the GOP’s 2012 loss contains contradictory messages? On the one hand we’re told that Republicans should be able to win over lots of Hispanics because of family values and social issues, if only they’d go liberal on immigration. Yet we are also told that family values rhetoric and social issues are what drives single women, voters in the North East, and upscale suburban whites from the GOP.

It’s enough to make me suspect that perhaps these liberal pundits offering this free advice to the GOP don’t exactly have the GOP’s best interests at heart.


18 posted on 03/28/2013 8:42:22 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius
It’s enough to make me suspect that perhaps these liberal pundits offering this free advice to the GOP don’t exactly have the GOP’s best interests at heart.

I'm not convinced the GOP has the GOP's best interests at heart...

19 posted on 03/28/2013 9:02:36 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Aetius

One of the issues facing minorities is their mentality. If you like paternalism and seek benefits outside your own independent work and success you’re reallying calling for your own slavery. The trade off is power and authority. You give that away.

It’s a theives society. The people (puebla) hire goons to get what they want by “legal” theft, but there’s no honor among theives and soon the hirelings turn master. That’s the pattern.

Take a look at the demographic shift of immigration and you see people who were violently independent, think Scots-Irish, to people who came not just from repressive, socialist societies, but who liked it and just wanted more.

It’s the culture that makes all the difference.


21 posted on 03/29/2013 4:32:46 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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