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Rumor: Microsoft Is Slashing The Price Of Windows For Tablets To Fight Android
Business Insider ^ | 04/02/2013 | Jay Yarrow

Posted on 04/02/2013 6:57:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Microsoft is rumored to cut the price of Windows 8 for tablets by 35-40 percent, according to Topeka Capital analyst Brian White.

White is on a "China-Taiwan Technology Tour" talking to people in the industry.

Currently, according to White's source, the tablet price for Windows is the same as the desktop/laptop pricing.

If Microsoft is going to compete with Android, which is taking over the world, it needs to lower its price. Google's software is free. And it's just as good, if not better than, Windows on a tablet.

Since consumers aren't clamoring to buy Windows-based tablets, there's little reason for a manufacturer to offer a premium priced tablet from Microsoft.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: android; microsoft; microsofttablet; tablet; windows

1 posted on 04/02/2013 6:57:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
If Microsoft is going to compete with Android, which is taking over the world, it needs to lower its price.

If Microsoft slashes the price of Windows to zero, I might just take a look at it. Otherwise, I'll pass.

2 posted on 04/02/2013 7:04:02 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: SeekAndFind

Surface is not doing very well against the iPad either.

http://m.techspot.com/guides/643-tablets-of-2013/


3 posted on 04/02/2013 7:12:30 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SeekAndFind
I haven't heard of a single reason to get a Microsoft phone/tablet.

Is it faster than Android? No, that depends primarily on the hardware unless you have a single computer which can run either and I have to decide which to buy.

Does it have better programs? That depends entirely on the app developers, not on the OS. Android and Apple have a long head start.

Does it crash less? My Android tablet has been pretty stable and about the only program I have which crashes is a crossword puzzle program with some bugs in it. But that's not the OS. And even it is very good about recovering from where it crashed.

Does it have annoying commercials with people bouncing around like a bunch of ADHD kids who just drank triple espressos? Well, Microsoft has that but I have no idea why that would make me want to buy Windows.

4 posted on 04/02/2013 7:13:34 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: KarlInOhio

I like the fact the tablet will run all my desktop software.

the price is the dealbreaker.

a windows tablet should be 100-200 TOPS. Then I can buy for the whole office.


5 posted on 04/02/2013 7:20:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like Win8 isn’t such a success story.

After VISTA came out and few were buying it, there were rumors that MS was wanting it to be downloaded via torrents, etc. In effect, MS was sort of giving it away. And they still didn’t get many takers.

Per other reports, some computer companies are offering a back-to-Win7 feature with Win8 computers.

[I am still learning my way around Win7, its glitches and ridiculous changes. I have no desire to try Win8.]


6 posted on 04/02/2013 7:29:33 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Windows Millenium Edition (ME) ( Really Windows 4 ) was a dud

Windows XP ( Really Windows 5 ) was a success

Windows Vista ( Really Windows 6 ) was a dud

Windows 7 was a huge success

Windows 8 looks like a dud

My conclusion —— Buy the odd numbered Windows version. Which means we have to wait for Windows 9.


7 posted on 04/02/2013 7:31:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Windows 8 Asus Vivotab is superb: we are using it for asset surveys. Non-windows tablets simply can’t run the software we need.

I’m looking forward to even cheaper Windows 8 tablets coming onto the market.


8 posted on 04/02/2013 7:33:08 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In my experience Windows 8 IS Windows 7 - but with a surface layer of colorful Metro links to easily leverage common functions (camera, internet, etc).

I hated the look of the Metro links before I actually tried using them on a touch screen. That was a revelation.

Ah, the childlike pleasure of moving colored shapes and having useful stuff happen. And at the same time you’re able to run full Windows apps! Love it!


9 posted on 04/02/2013 7:41:06 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: agere_contra

Nice try Mr. Gates.


10 posted on 04/02/2013 7:49:15 AM PDT by delapaz
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m waiting to see what Windows tablets will come out in the months ahead. So far, they are far too expensive and loaded up with full function Excel and other software many users don’t want or need in a tablet. Some manufacturers need to offer more flexibility as to software and other features and offer lower cost tablets ($200 or less) as well as more full featured ones.


11 posted on 04/02/2013 7:50:05 AM PDT by Will88
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To: SeekAndFind

Windows 8 can do some cool stuff with Storage Spaces. That is until the OS or computer crashes. Then ~you~ must do some cool stuff to bring it back to life.


12 posted on 04/02/2013 7:53:08 AM PDT by Justa
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To: SeekAndFind

A quibble. There was a Windows 4.0, it was NT4.0 and it kicked butt. ME was still running on top of DOS, I think logo=0 boots 16/32 bit version of Windows into DOS. Not the NT version.
The rest made sense, what was the purpose to go to Vista when XP had 64bit support? Vista wasn’t that bad, it’s that it wasn’t that good.


13 posted on 04/02/2013 7:56:07 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I needed a computer immediately and in my area, Win 8 was the only option. Take my word for it, Win 8 is a dud. I liked Vista better.


14 posted on 04/02/2013 8:04:20 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, let’s make a touch interface for machines that don’t have a touch interface!

Yea! That’s the ticket!

Microsoft

PS - Let’s strip active-x out of IE 10 while we are at it! Another good idea!


15 posted on 04/02/2013 8:34:12 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hating Win7 ever since I had to upgrade because my pre-2001 hand-me-down from the in-laws running XP was supposedly “shot” according to the techs. The lack of a decent “search” feature is my pet peeve.

Got a kindle fire for Christmas and I would consider a Win tablet under $100—mainly for having a portable keyboard—but it still wouldn’t do everything my tower would.


16 posted on 04/02/2013 8:45:05 AM PDT by Southern Magnolia
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To: SeekAndFind

Just figured it out—what I really want is a Windows tablet that runs XP. Don’t tell me they couldn’t do that for under $100.


17 posted on 04/02/2013 8:51:18 AM PDT by Southern Magnolia
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To: Southern Magnolia

RE: I would consider a Win tablet under $100—mainly for having a portable keyboard—but it still wouldn’t do everything my tower would.

But you can’t take your tower anywhere with you...


18 posted on 04/02/2013 8:51:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: dangerdoc

Win 8 is the first one that I have had a lot of problems with.
I dislike it severly and would love to switch out


19 posted on 04/02/2013 9:06:16 AM PDT by winodog
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To: longtermmemmory

Only Win 8 Pro runs Windows apps.

Win 8 Surface doesn’t.


20 posted on 04/02/2013 9:32:34 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: dangerdoc
"Win 8 is a dud. I liked Vista better."

roger that. It is an absolute horrible desktop environment. If one was trying to create the most unintuitive, clunky, distracting, nightmarish, destop experience possible they could not come up with a better suited product than Windows 8. Perhaps this is only true for longtime windows uses like myself who are very adept with their traditional product. Maybe the younger generation brought up on cellphones and tablets don't feel the same ways. But I bet those guys are the ones reponsible for mass business purchases and trying to get work done in a business . Windnows 8 has me seriously considering just going over to Apple or possibly Linux for everything from here on out.

21 posted on 04/02/2013 9:36:42 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: webstersII

the win 8 pro surface is listed as running full aps.

you must be thinking win 8 “RT” which was limited and pointless.


22 posted on 04/02/2013 9:51:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TomGuy
I am still learning my way around Win7, its glitches and ridiculous changes. I have no desire to try Win8.

Spoken like a person who is simply trying to justify their hate/fear of change. Just because it has a bit of a learning curve doesn't mean the changes are "ridiculous". Most can be attributed to "Operator Error".

Windows 7 (home or pro, not basic) is superior to all it's predecessors in every way. The first thing I noticed in Win7 over Vista and XP was how much simpler connecting to WiFi was in terms of how many steps. Searching was another major plus. Vista tried to implement it but it hogged so many resources, it was no better than bloatware like Google Desktop. Win7 finally fixed that. If I have a dozen documents in my computer somewhere with the phrase "business meeting" in the file name or in the document, I can type that in the search and it pulls up in seconds. Try that in XP and tell me that XP or earlier was better.

That being said, I feel Windows seems to follow in a similar pattern as the Star Trek Movies (odd/even rule).

Our offices are still messing around with Win8 before we make our opinions for the office. It is efficient and smooth running, we will give it that. The problem is in it forcing the Metro Desktop on Desktops and Laptops that have no touch capability. I think MS pushed that a little too quickly. That's one thing I'll give Apple more credit on, they at least kept their workstation and mobile OS's separate. Similar maybe, but clearly separate.

23 posted on 04/02/2013 9:53:28 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: SeekAndFind

ME wasn’t 4, 95 was 4. They’re just making up numbers at this point because there’s no way 8 is 8. ME was 5 (98 was a point release). XP was 6. Vista was 7. 7 was a point release, 7.5.


24 posted on 04/02/2013 9:58:41 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I liked the old parody ad that said that Microsoft was coming out with a new version of their software that combined the best of several builds: the best of NT, the best of ME, the best of CE - it was to be called Windows CEMENT - Hard as a brick and dumb as a clam!!!


25 posted on 04/02/2013 10:34:27 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Marko413
I'll buy that critique when File Explorer directory tree quits jumping around every time I click on a directory.

Even MS admits that glitch has existed since VISTA.

And those ribbon menus. Whoever thought that was a good idea should be taken out an shot!

XP had buttons and links easily identifiable. Win7 links are a guessing game.

==

Change for the same of change IS ridiculous. Many of us use software for productivity, not for cutsie new features that actually hamper productivity.

26 posted on 04/02/2013 10:41:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

The Ribbon Menus are part of MS Office, not Windows7, there’s no argument about those.

You can put Office 2003 or earlier on a Win7 machine and there won’t be any ribbons.


27 posted on 04/02/2013 10:54:20 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: Leaning Right
If Microsoft slashes the price of Windows to zero, I might just take a look at it. Otherwise, I'll pass.

They'd have to pay me to use it. My time isn't free. I don't have the time to waste to make it 'safe' to use.

This penguin ain't playin

28 posted on 04/02/2013 11:18:19 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: isthisnickcool
PS - Let’s strip active-x out of IE 10 while we are at it! Another good idea!

Actually, that is a good idea IMO. Active-x has been the primary vector for many viruses and trojans for many years.

29 posted on 04/02/2013 11:24:16 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Marko413

I have the same likes and no likes.


30 posted on 04/02/2013 11:38:50 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“you must be thinking win 8 “RT” which was limited and pointless.”

No, I was referring to Win 8 Pro. That’s the one that runs Windows apps.

The article was referencing Win 8 RT, also called Surface. It doesn’t run Windows apps.


31 posted on 04/02/2013 7:34:15 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Lx
I have a little quibble with your version of the story:

Windows 3.x, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME were the last of the DOS based Windows operating systems.

The NT family of Windows went from NT 3.6, NT 4.0, Win2k (NT 5), Windows XP (NT 6), Windows 7 (NT 7), and lastly Windows 8 (NY 8?).

Windows NT started out as a joint venture with IBM whose early version was OS/2. The reason why everyone loved XP so much was it was really no longer Windows, but NT that looked like Windows 98 but ran like NT.

32 posted on 04/02/2013 7:57:32 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: SeekAndFind

The more the better, we’ve suffered enough with the Winblows near monopoly on desktop.


33 posted on 04/02/2013 7:59:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: discostu

You’re mixing apples and oranges. One group was DOS based windows and the other was NT. The current version numbers line up with NT. DOS based windows has been dead since ME.


34 posted on 04/02/2013 8:02:50 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: webstersII

RT is a waste of time and money.

Balmer is an utter moron for approving it.


35 posted on 04/02/2013 8:08:41 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where MIcrosoft will win is when enterprises start replacing the Windows desktops and laptops with tablets.....but it will take a few years for them to begin reaping the benefits, but I do think as long as the tablets are compatible with the current desktop software, they will inevitably gain an advantage in the Enterprise tablet market.


36 posted on 04/02/2013 8:12:13 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Woodman

Actually Windows NT started as version 3.1 and it even had OS/2 error messages. Windows 3.51 SP5 was the one that people had confidence in. Windows NT 4.0 looked exactly like Windows 95 which was based on DOS as was 98 & ME. Win2k came out with Active directory instead of the domain system and with AD and XP, you had pretty good control. XP put a prettier face on Windows 2000 Pro and gave us x64 support.

When was the time you saw a running netware box and they owned the server market NDS worked well if you knew it and kept it patched but their TCP/IP stack was pretty worthless if I remember right in that it couldn’t handle NDS so you still needed IPX in the beginning.

I loved Netware but I saw where it was going.

I’ve probably got a couple 250 user Netware 3.x and 4.x server.exes and license disks somewhere that I got free at a conference.

I like Windows 7.0 64bit. I have no idea how ver8 is but it doesn’t sound worth going to and I’m going to have to reach across my keyboard to run a touchscreen, seriously? Please tell it still me it still supports a mouse.


37 posted on 04/02/2013 8:13:26 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: dfwgator

Uh, you can’t do data entry on a tablet, so I suspect that the enterprises are buying them for other purposes, such as for example conducting meetings (a huge semi-secret market segment, as corporate managers live and breathe meetings and just love to show off, so that tablets, like RIM phones before them, become status symbols and power accessories like pink neckties!)


38 posted on 04/02/2013 8:17:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Lx
Yes you are right about the versions. I really just went off the top of my head. NT Has had many sub-versions we used depending on the edition we were using (Server, Pro, 32, 64, etc). The point I was trying to make was that the current windows is a variant of NT and not really related at all to the earlier versions of “Windows” other than name.

The funny thing is I went to the command line and did a VER on Windows 7 and realized it is major version 6.1.7xxxx. So I am off as well. Either it is a major dot upgrade to XP, or XP was a major dot upgrade to Win2K. Seems I lost track along the way was well.

39 posted on 04/03/2013 2:10:39 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: Woodman

What the hell, it does say that for Win7. I’m pretty sure we can safely assume Microsoft no longer cares. I’ve got Vista on a laptop somewhere and I’ll do a ver on it to see what it says.


40 posted on 04/03/2013 7:00:39 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Revolting cat!

It’s hard to justify a tablet over a laptop/netbook.

My sister had a Vista box that virused so she bought another laptop. I wiped the Vista and installed Linux Mint 14. It works like a charm except for sleep/hibernate which doesn’t work. No viruses and it does everything I need.


41 posted on 04/03/2013 7:07:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

Sleep/hibernate doesn’t work on my otherwise excellent Toshiba. Or rather, wake up doesn’t work. But that’s probably a hardware issue.


42 posted on 04/03/2013 9:25:53 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: circlecity

“Perhaps this is only true for longtime windows uses like myself who are very adept with their traditional product. Maybe the younger generation brought up on cellphones and tablets don’t feel the same ways.”

No. In my experience most hate it (myself included, because a touch screen environment on a desktop is a horrible idea) or are ambivalent at best. Also, keep in mind that my generation grew up on Apple cellphones and Ipods and Microsoft’s version just isn’t as flashy or cool.


43 posted on 04/03/2013 9:33:57 AM PDT by minor49er ("We're in a war, dammit! We're going to have to offend someone!" - John Adams)
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To: circlecity
Maybe the younger generation brought up on cellphones and tablets don't feel the same ways.

Yeah, I thought that too, but I work with a bunch of young 'uns and the verdict is pretty solidly against Win8 as a desktop environment. A tablet isn't a desktop, true, but it isn't a cellphone either. And we're not really at the point where one user interface will rule them all, bring them in the darkness and bind them.

Maybe it never will. I use an iPad, a laptop, and a desktop for fundamentally different things. I'm very happy with the Surface Pro and could happily replace the 'Pad and the lappy with it on a hardware level, but replacing iOS and Win7 with one platform running Win8 just isn't a transition I'm willing to make - it's a downgrade to both of the former, IMHO.

Under the hood Win8 is actually pretty impressive. But the Metro interface is a deal breaker. Others' mileage may vary.

44 posted on 04/03/2013 10:10:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Revolting cat!

It’s a Toshiba. I need to check a BIOS setting for hpet.


45 posted on 04/03/2013 10:33:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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