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U.N. approves first-ever global arms trade treaty
Reuters ^ | Apr. 2, 2013 | Louis Charbonneau

Posted on 04/02/2013 11:57:01 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

Reuters) - The 193-nation U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly approved on Tuesday the first-ever treaty on global arms trade that seeks to regulate the $70 billion international business in conventional arms ranging from light weapons to battle tanks and warships.

There were 154 votes in favor, 3 against and 23 abstentions.

Iran, Syria and North Korea last week prevented a treaty-drafting conference at U.N. headquarters from reaching the required consensus to adopt the treaty.

The Iranian, Syrian and North Korean delegations cast the sole votes against the treaty on Tuesday.

Iran, which is under a U.N. arms embargo over its nuclear program, is eager to ensure its arms imports and exports are not curtailed, diplomats said.

The treaty will be open for signature on June 3 and will enter into force 90 days after the 50th signatory ratifies it.

The United States, the world's No. 1 arms exporter, voted in favor of the treaty despite fierce opposition from the National Rifle Association, a powerful U.S. pro-gun lobbying group.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said in a statement that the U.N. adopted "a strong, effective and implementable Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) that can strengthen global security while protecting the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade."

"Nothing in this treaty could ever infringe on the rights of American citizens under our domestic law or the Constitution, including the Second Amendment," he added, referring to the U.S. constitutional amendment that guarantees the right to bear arms.

The NRA opposes the treaty and has vowed to fight to prevent its ratification by the U.S. Senate when it reaches Washington. The NRA says the treaty will undermine domestic gun rights, a view the U.S. government has strongly rejected.

NRA FAILURE?

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bluehelmets; guncontrol; guns; nra; rkba; secondamendment; un; unarmstreaty

1 posted on 04/02/2013 11:57:01 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

Does this give Obama some gun control and someone to blame it on ?


2 posted on 04/02/2013 12:01:05 PM PDT by molson209
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To: EXCH54FE

Does the treaty prevent Eric Holder from sending guns to Mexican drug lords???


3 posted on 04/02/2013 12:01:21 PM PDT by apillar
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To: EXCH54FE; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Enemy action ping.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

4 posted on 04/02/2013 12:01:36 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: molson209
Does this give Obama some gun control and someone to blame it on ?

It gives Obama nothing, considering it must still be ratified by 67 senators before it becomes anything other than a piece of paper in the United States...and even according to Harry Reid, their aren't even 40 senators who support Obama's current gun control plans.

5 posted on 04/02/2013 12:03:59 PM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar
Does the treaty prevent Eric Holder from sending guns to Mexican drug lords???

No, but it encourages them to frame law-abiding gun owners for their own crimes.

6 posted on 04/02/2013 12:06:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: apillar
"It gives Obama nothing, considering it must still be ratified by 67 senators before it becomes anything other than a piece of paper in the United States...and even according to Harry Reid, their aren't even 40 senators who support Obama's current gun control plans."

And then there's this: even if it passes they can kiss my a$$.

7 posted on 04/02/2013 12:06:36 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: EXCH54FE

Let’s see how that ratification by two thirds of the States, goes.....LOL!


8 posted on 04/02/2013 12:07:26 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: EXCH54FE

“U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said in a statement that the U.N. adopted “a strong, effective and implementable Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) that can strengthen global security while protecting the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade.”

“Nothing in this treaty could ever infringe on the rights of American citizens under our domestic law or the Constitution, including the Second Amendment,” he added, referring to the U.S. constitutional amendment that guarantees the right to bear arms.”

Hey, ketchup boy....no one believes you....


9 posted on 04/02/2013 12:10:13 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: apillar
“It gives Obama nothing, considering it must still be ratified by 67 senators before it becomes anything other than a piece of paper in the United States...and even according to Harry Reid, their aren't even 40 senators who support Obama’s current gun control plans. “

Step by step, one step closer to TOTAL Gun Control. Do not stop the fight for our 2nd Amendment rights, Remember “Obamacare” (it will not pass!!!) But it did pass, and without our voice, this may also pass into law. Then what will we do? (give up our Guns? fight to keep our Guns?)I say it is better to fight NOW then later after the fact. What say you?

10 posted on 04/02/2013 12:14:38 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: EXCH54FE

I’m sure the UN will be enforcing this throughout Africa and Asia.

Or is it just another scam to extort money from the USA?


11 posted on 04/02/2013 12:16:44 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: EXCH54FE

The key areas of infringement appear to be the potential to reduce access to surplus firearms and ammunition, such as imports from Russia. Many enthusiasts enjoy inexpensive arms, such as the Mosin-Nagant rifle and appreciate access to inexpensive ammo, like 7.62x54. Are there other, practical or meaningful, impacts that are possible?
Remember, these are the same people who say that assault weapon bans, magazine limits and registration schemes don’t infringe on the 2nd Amendment, either!


12 posted on 04/02/2013 12:19:46 PM PDT by Tandem (What ever happened to personal responsibility & self-reliance?)
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To: apillar

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


13 posted on 04/02/2013 12:24:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: EXCH54FE

That will affect imports and exports. Bills like the following are even more dangerous, along with domestic-violence-related and data collection bills (re. mental health, etc). Outlawing subgroups and grandfathering the current crop of firearms owners will be the way to eventually outlawing the Second Amendment altogether for everyone (divide and conquer voters).

Firearms Risk Protection Act Will Stick Gun Owners With $10,000 Fine
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3003308/posts


14 posted on 04/02/2013 12:28:48 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
An outstanding article and “It needs to be re-read form time-to-time.” (very true words)

There are a lot of great Quotes that are used to Remind us of our freedoms and GOD given rights. I like this one:

“For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

Are you willing to die to take my guns?”

15 posted on 04/02/2013 12:32:42 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: EXCH54FE
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

16 posted on 04/02/2013 12:34:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: EXCH54FE

I hope they are not because if they come for mine there will be hell to pay. I am not registering anything, I am not turning in anything, I am not getting any permits. In other words, call me a felon. I feel sorry for the minions these crazed politicians send out to enforce these laws and hope the public sees them as the messenger, in other words, aim farther up the chain of command.


17 posted on 04/02/2013 12:36:00 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
YES!!!

And good old Ben;

“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” -Benjamin Franklin

MOLON LABE

18 posted on 04/02/2013 12:40:18 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: EXCH54FE

ping


19 posted on 04/02/2013 12:55:21 PM PDT by mykroar (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.-Thomas Painee)
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To: EXCH54FE

F.U.U.N.


20 posted on 04/02/2013 12:57:07 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (If govmt is stockpiling guns, ammo, food, & meds, don't you think it's a good idea to do the same?)
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To: Iron Munro
"...Or is it just another scam to extort money from the USA?"

..... Yup ... and I don't know if anybody else has noticed ... but at least to me .... it seems that everything that this administration does is done in an effort to deplete this nation of it's wealth. Finding new and creative ways to spend growing percentages of the GDP .... and it is done ... of course .... for the so called "good" of the people .... not the country.

There is absolutely NO effort to curtail any spending at all. In fact the exact opposite is true. This nation is being plundered with malice aforethought.

21 posted on 04/02/2013 12:57:36 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: EXCH54FE

Fight now, and later, if necessary. I’ll have my firearms as long as I am alive.


22 posted on 04/02/2013 1:03:24 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: apillar
No, it doesn't have to be ratified by 67 senators.

It only has to be ratified by "two thirds present", meaning if 51 are present on any given day only 34 have to vote for it.

Watch for all the stupid Republicans to go home for what... Memorial Day, yeah, that's the next holiday, and most of the Democrats to stay in Washington to ratify it.

"Common sense" and all that, you know.

23 posted on 04/02/2013 1:38:52 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: illiac
Considering he's a traitor, no one should.


24 posted on 04/02/2013 2:22:04 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: G Larry

****** “Let’s see how that ratification by two thirds of the States, goes.....LOL!” ********

Texas Raspberry headed to Obama and the UN .... now

(can ya hear me now?)

TT


25 posted on 04/02/2013 2:25:43 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Joe Brower

26 posted on 04/02/2013 3:05:07 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: G Larry
Let’s see how that ratification by two thirds of the States, goes..

Not needed. It requires only 2/3 of those present voting "AYE" and a quorum. That is 51 Senators present and 34 votes to pass it.

Do not look for this type of vote to come at midday on a Wednesday with coverage by Fox and CNN. Old Harry will 'giterdun' in the middle of the night while all the serious gun grabbers are just hanging around to deal with some 'minor business'.

27 posted on 04/02/2013 6:21:09 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Let’s see how 100 million gun owners vote....


28 posted on 04/02/2013 7:34:43 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: EXCH54FE

marker


29 posted on 04/02/2013 11:52:32 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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