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Treasury Sued to Remove 'God' from Currency (In God We Trust)
Worthy News ^ | March 24, 2013 | Joseph DeCaro

Posted on 04/05/2013 8:40:39 AM PDT by xzins

WASHINGTON, DC (Worthy News)– The Freedom From Religion Foundation is suing the U.S. Treasury Department to remove "In God We Trust" from all its currency.

A nonprofit organization that represents atheists and agnostics, the FFRF claims the motto is "offensive" to the nonreligious.

In February, the FFRF and 19 plaintiffs filed a civil suit in New York claiming the motto violates the First and Fifth Amendments of the Constitution; they also claim it forces atheists, agnostics and secular skeptics to impart a religious message they all decry whenever using U.S. currency, resulting in a false declaration of their own religious views.

Dan Barker, co-president of the Wisconsin-based FFRF, also believes the motto sends a religious message to everyone who uses U.S. currency.

"[In God We Trust] is indeed considered to be a religious phrase," Barker told The Christian Post. "The message belongs in churches, private institutions and can be shared by missionaries, but who is the 'we' representing, if not all of us trust in a God?"

(Excerpt) Read more at worthynews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atheists; currency; ffrf; god; ingodwetrust; lawsuit; money; motto; radicalleft
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1 posted on 04/05/2013 8:40:39 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

Nuisance lawsuit par excellence.


2 posted on 04/05/2013 8:41:20 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

If they succeed in having it removed, then all is lost. How long, folks?


3 posted on 04/05/2013 8:43:48 AM PDT by gunner03
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To: xzins

Simple solution. Don’t use currency.

Atheists and agnostics and whatevers can use credit cards. I’ve yet to see “in God We trust” on any credit card.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 8:44:11 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: xzins

soetoro endorsed


5 posted on 04/05/2013 8:44:26 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: xzins

I thought we already went through this crap!


6 posted on 04/05/2013 8:44:44 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: xzins

I believe the USSC has already ruled on this.


7 posted on 04/05/2013 8:44:51 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: xzins

The cultural terrorist organization at large strikes again. May God wipe them and their families from this earth.


8 posted on 04/05/2013 8:45:13 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: xzins

if they don’t believe in God... what’s the problem?

would they be offended if i worshiped a rock?
should i be offended they don’t believe in the soul?

wouldn’t removing the phrase have more impact to those that believe it akin to turning their backs on God... then those that don’t believe at all?

don’t the number of people that believe in God FAR outnumber the paltry few that do not?


9 posted on 04/05/2013 8:45:15 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: xzins

200 million or so people in this country and 19 total a-holes want to rule on what goes on our money.

In a real world these people would be told to go screw themselves. They probably wouldn’t be offended by that as they have already screwed their souls.

I am personally offended by thes 19 a-holes, nobody cares about the majority that is offended by these morons.


10 posted on 04/05/2013 8:46:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

I trust in God, It’s our currency I don’t trust.


11 posted on 04/05/2013 8:48:18 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: circlecity

It’s not “Settled Law” until they win.


12 posted on 04/05/2013 8:48:19 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Venturer

look what the small number of Aholes in Newtown are trying to achive.


13 posted on 04/05/2013 8:48:40 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Venturer

“In God We Trust....All Others Pay Cash.”


14 posted on 04/05/2013 8:48:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: xzins

I remember reading an article once from an atheist who was all for leaving God on money and in the pledge etc etc. His reasoning being that even though he didn’t believe in God, he believed in “hope” which he took as the meaning of the phrase. “In God we trust” in other words, We hope this country works out. To me it means God watching over us, but I can also take it as a meaning of hope. That’s the thing about dikwads like these idiots, they are so negative. They want no God, no hope, nothing. But of course no doubt they try to ram their religion of liberalism down everyones throat.


15 posted on 04/05/2013 8:49:08 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: xzins

Would they be happy if it said “In Our Creator We Trust”? If not, then the constitution will have to re-done.


16 posted on 04/05/2013 8:50:45 AM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: sten

That’s the point.

If somebody truly did not believe in God, they wouldn’t be ‘offended’.

I think it’s the horrible, sneaking suspicion that they might be wrong that drives them to such insane depths of utter denial.

I don’t believe in UFOs but I couldn’t possibly care less if everybody else does and would never pitch a hissy fit every time War Of the Worlds comes on.


17 posted on 04/05/2013 8:51:21 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.....)
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To: Terry Mross

just a little bit of folding and everyone's happy...:)

18 posted on 04/05/2013 8:53:45 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.....)
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To: Venturer

•The Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc. conducted a national survey which showed that “In God We Trust” was regarded as religious by an overwhelming percentage of U.S. citizens. They initiated a lawsuit on 1994-JUN-8 in Denver CO to have it removed from U.S. paper currency and coins. They also wanted it to be discontinued as the national motto. Their lawsuit was dismissed by the district Court without trial, on the grounds that “In God We Trust” is not a religious phrase! The Tenth-Circuit federal judge confirmed the dismissal, stating in part:

“...we find that a reasonable observer, aware of the purpose, context, and history of the phrase ‘In God we trust,’ would not consider its use or its reproduction on U.S. currency to be an endorsement of religion.” 5

The U.S. Supreme Court declined to review all of these rulings. It might be embarrassing to them, because the motto also hangs on the wall at the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has commented in passing on the motto saying that:

“[o]ur previous opinions have considered in dicta the motto and the pledge [of allegiance], characterizing them as consistent with the proposition that government may not communicate an endorsement of religious belief.” Allegheny, 492 U.S.


19 posted on 04/05/2013 8:54:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

How many times are we going to go through this? Until the commie piggies finally win? If they don’t like the money, they should get rid of it. Obnoxious bass turds. Why doesn’t the Freedom from Obnoxious Atheists sue to have “In God We Trust” remain on the money?


20 posted on 04/05/2013 8:55:42 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: xzins

“...they also claim it forces atheists, agnostics and secular skeptics to impart a religious message they all decry whenever using U.S. currency...”

As though it’s removal would not force us to honor their viewpoint.....


21 posted on 04/05/2013 8:58:22 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: xzins
Since America's very Declaration of Independence was premised on Blessings from the Creator--and clearly states as much;--one can only wonder why these offended litigants even remain in these United States. Surely if the sensitive folk feel threatened by something stamped on a coin, or printed on a bank note; they must be absolutely terrified by the fact that the very existence of a political order, here, is premised upon what even threatens them in four words stamped under George Washington's chin on a quarter.

Crack-pots looking for a cause, while society collapses in chaos that could have been avoided, had Americans remained truer to their roots!

William Flax

22 posted on 04/05/2013 8:59:29 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: xzins
Here's the problem....The atheist has been using "In God We Trust" money all his life...and he's still an atheist and Christianity is not the "government established" religion of this country.

Now Islam is different. The Koran and all its fallacies are law.

23 posted on 04/05/2013 9:00:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: t1b8zs

Not only in Newtown.
Here in my State of Maryland they just passed a law that will make half of Maryland felons.

We may be able to beat it on a Referendum, If we cannot, I may have to move, and give the State to the liberal CS’ers.


24 posted on 04/05/2013 9:00:37 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Post of the day.


25 posted on 04/05/2013 9:02:02 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: sten

But they DO believe in God...they just don’t want to admit it to anyone else, or to themselves. You can’t despise that which you don’t think even exists.....


26 posted on 04/05/2013 9:02:54 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Venturer

We did move from MD after 30+ years living there. The LIB asshats can have MD. Here in Utah we have Freedom. Free at last...Thank God...Free At Last!


27 posted on 04/05/2013 9:06:01 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

It’s a hard thing for me to move.

My family has been in Southern Md. for 400 years, I have friends here. But monetarily I am not sure I can afford to stay. They are taxing me to death.


28 posted on 04/05/2013 9:08:54 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: C. Edmund Wright

exactly

at which point... i really don’t care.


29 posted on 04/05/2013 9:09:49 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: xzins
Maybe "In Wicca We Trust". "In Mohammed we Trust."

When will these obnoxious babies 'put their big girl panties on and get over it'.

They are idiots. So, when they state 'In God will Trust' is against their personal rights, whip out your pocket book copy of the Constitution and ask the miscreant where they are getting their information. Then read it with this person.

And, "senda' free copy of the Constitution to them yourself."

They will likely destroy and toss it.

"Discuss amongst yourselves".

They will wail and moan but maybe something will "take"

Guess I'm just dreaming... They will likely destroy and toss it.

30 posted on 04/05/2013 9:11:08 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: xzins

please do. God is probably sick and tired od having his Name on the filthy fiat fed reserve notes.


31 posted on 04/05/2013 9:12:37 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: sten

Good post!


32 posted on 04/05/2013 9:13:14 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: sten
These "atheists" do not speak for me.

I am completely indifferent to whether "In God We Trust" appears on the currency.

Now let me turn the question around.

We added "In God We Trust" to the dollar bill and "One Nation Under God" to the pledge, both in the mid fifties.

In what way has America become a more moral nation as a result? Does your God appreciate the difference between the slogans a nation mouths and the behaviors it exhibits??

33 posted on 04/05/2013 9:19:02 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ('Institutions will try to preserve the problems to which they are a solution.' - Clay Shirky)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"Why doesn’t the Freedom from Obnoxious Atheists sue to have “In God We Trust” remain on the money? "

Indeed!

34 posted on 04/05/2013 9:19:29 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: xzins

nobody says they have to use money. almost all “money” isn’t physical coin or paper anyway.


35 posted on 04/05/2013 9:23:16 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: xzins

there needs to be a law that once such a nuisance lawsuit is rejected by scotus it can’t be filed again for at least 100 years in any court.


36 posted on 04/05/2013 9:24:28 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: xzins

it is also in the star spangled banner, third verse.

‘let this be our motto
in God is our trust’


37 posted on 04/05/2013 9:27:28 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
"Atheists and agnostics and whatevers can use credit cards. I’ve yet to see “in God We trust” on any credit card."

They can have a special atheist credit card imprinted with "There is no God to trust".

The agnostic credit card can say "I'm not sure who or what to trust. I'm just not sure."

38 posted on 04/05/2013 9:29:53 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: xzins

America is destroyed. Wake up. Only chance we had was Romney.


39 posted on 04/05/2013 9:30:11 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Notary Sojac

In God We Trust was on US coinage as early as 1864, on the 2cent piece.


40 posted on 04/05/2013 9:31:25 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Logical me
America is destroyed. Wake up. Only chance we had was Romney.

The only chance we had(have) is in the God in whom we trust.

That's always been the case.

41 posted on 04/05/2013 9:34:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Maybe we should sue to remove the Freedom From Religion Foundation from American soil.


42 posted on 04/05/2013 10:06:58 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker (Hard to paddle against the flow of sewage coming out of the White House.)
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To: xzins

Yep...but yet the commies claim it was something that showed up in the 1950s. They thrive on the ignorant.


43 posted on 04/05/2013 10:12:07 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Notary Sojac

if you’re indifferent, then it doesn’t matter to you

meanwhile, there are many people that it does matter to


44 posted on 04/05/2013 10:12:13 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: xzins

Atheist Media Whores at it again. Just like clockwork.


45 posted on 04/05/2013 10:13:00 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Cultures succumb not to ideas, but to superior cultures. Invoke the "Super Culture." Matt. 9:38)
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To: xzins

Might as well put Mr. Moneybags on there because it's not worth much more than monopoly money these days.

46 posted on 04/05/2013 10:30:57 AM PDT by bgill
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To: gunner03

It has already been lost. America has been brain dead for a while so it’s just a matter of pulling the plug.


47 posted on 04/05/2013 10:34:42 AM PDT by bgill
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To: hummingbird

How about “In ? We Trust”


48 posted on 04/05/2013 11:01:42 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Notary Sojac

Your question? “ Does your God appreciate the difference between the slogans a nation mouths and the behavior it exhibits?’. This makes recall of the spirit of Easter just past. I believe that Jesus who I personally take as ‘of my GOD’ took a stand on this issue in many ways. There was the incident of the money changers being chased from the Temple. There was the incident of forgiveness of the sins/acts of the unclean woman and then there are his words differentiating earthly tributes and eternal/heavenly blessings leading up to his crucifixion on the cross. Yes, I believe my God does recognize and appreciate a difference between words and actions or mouths and behavior as you asked.


49 posted on 04/05/2013 11:17:54 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

They may also move to a country that doesn’t offend them and use their money.

When can we explaine to these a$$holes that the constitution doesn’t extend the right to not be offended.


50 posted on 04/05/2013 11:35:48 AM PDT by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat VEGETABLES!)
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