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This Map Of US Female Mortality Will Break Your Heart
TBI ^ | 3-5-2013 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 04/05/2013 9:20:41 PM PDT by blam

This Map Of US Female Mortality Will Break Your Heart

Grace Wyler
Apr. 5, 2013, 6:31 PM

In a speech at the Women In The World summit Friday, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton mentioned a startling fact:

Women in the U.S. are living shorter lives than women in almost every other industrialized country. And worse yet, female mortality rates are actually rising in many parts of the country.

"Think about it for a minute. We are the richest and most powerful country in the world," Clinton said. "Yet many American women today are living shorter lives than their mothers, especially those with the least education. That is a historic reversal that rivals the decline in life expectancy for Russian men after the disintegration of the Soviet Union."

We looked into Clinton's claims, and it appears she is correct.

A study published last month by the Journal of Health Affairs found that between 1992-96 and 2002-06, the number of premature deaths actually rose for women in some parts of the country

The research, conducted by David Kindig and Erika Cheng of the University of Wisconsin, found that nationally the female mortality rate fell from 324 to 318 per 100,000 during that period.

But in 42.3 percent of counties, the female mortality rate rose, from 317 to about 333 per 100,000. Male mortality rates, by contrast, rose in only about 3 percent of counties.

Check out the map below, via Bill Gardner at the Incidental Economist. Red means that mortality worsened.

Bill Gardner

As Clinton noted in her speech, the reasons for this trend are varied.

“We did find significant associations between mortality rates and some of these factors, such as smoking rates for both sexes," Kindig and Cheng wrote. "But socioeconomic factors

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To: facedown
I don’t believe this crap for a second, It’s showing improvement in all urban areas which is nonsense.

That actually could be the case. Urban women could die on average ten years earlier than rural women, but if government programs are causing marginal improvements in longevity, while ignoring rural women, who are dying a bit younger due to obseity-related diseases, the map could be accurate - while hiding the real underlying story.

51 posted on 04/06/2013 3:43:03 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Yardstick
Any chance this is due to illegal immigration moving inward?

Think about it. Mexico has made significant improvements in overall material well-being. So illegal immigrants nowadays arrive in much better health than they did 50 years ago. And they also have access to taxpayer-paid health-care.

This kind of map can hide a lot of details.

52 posted on 04/06/2013 3:46:47 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: blam

“especially those with the least education”. Sounds like more money will be dumped into educating the non educatable Just take a look at where mortality rates are celebratory, ny, california, massachusettes, vermont, connecticut and new hampshire. WOW these rats are really doing a great job for women in these democratically controlled strongholds


53 posted on 04/06/2013 4:07:39 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: blam

The change in mortality rate which is nothing more than deaths per 100,000 would be expected to increase as the distribution of the population continues to shift to an older population.
Therefore it is typical of the political scientist to draw conclusions from a statistic which is taken out of context and is in wrong as to the cause. Political scientist all have a political agenda.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country/us/Age_distribution


54 posted on 04/06/2013 4:19:44 AM PDT by DaveArk
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To: Chickensoup

I agree. It is easier to show improvement in areas with formerly high mortality. Similarly, areas where premature mortality is low would be more apt to have increases. I’ve hear that called “regression to the mean.” Life expectancy by county would be far more interesting and more relevant.

That said, you must notice the correlation between this map and (say) election maps. Similarly, areas with high concentrations of illegal immigrants (Texas border, areas of California, south Fla) are faring well in terms of the change. There is a story there, but I don’t think it is the one they are telling.

Statistical interactions are hard to explain to technical people. It will be impossible to explain to the masses unless we first teach math and statistics.


55 posted on 04/06/2013 4:21:39 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: mylife

“Still Gonna Die” - Old Dogs (Waylon Jennings, Jerry Reed, Bobby Bare, Mel Tillis)


56 posted on 04/06/2013 4:21:48 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I love my country; I don't like its government)
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To: LadyDoc
In my early years I was a peace officer in West TX with the Sheriff's Dept and I'm just drawing off what I observed then and what I observe now as a civilian. If it was a gun shot, knife, domestic, drugs or alcohol related we responded to the ER. My wife is the admissions director at the only hospital in a small West TX county right in the middle of the Permian Basin, she sees everything going into the ER.
In my early years it used to be young to middle aged white females mostly alcohol involved domestics resulting in assaults but rarely fatal. Now we're seeing drug overdoses and again most seem to be white females in that age range, but there has been a notable change in assaults resulting in death and this seems to be allot higher among the Blacks and Hispanics. I'm going to go ahead and lay it out on the table but there is a Muy Macho attitude among Blacks and Hispanics especially when talking about male assault on females that have resulted in deaths and a high rate of Hispanic female deaths resulting from alcohol and driving. It's my opinion that being a Black or Hispanic female in this country has an impact on mortality rates.
57 posted on 04/06/2013 4:24:35 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: blam
"Think about it for a minute. We are the richest and most powerful country in the world," Clinton said. "Yet many American women today are living shorter lives than their mothers, especially those with the least education. That is a historic reversal that rivals the decline in life expectancy for Russian men after the disintegration of the Soviet Union."

Mrs. Clinton, what difference does it make?

58 posted on 04/06/2013 4:25:39 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: OKRA2012

Yeah, I love how the “worsening” counties are red, and “substantial improvement” is blue. Who decided on that color scheme?


59 posted on 04/06/2013 4:26:08 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: originalbuckeye
Women MAY be dying earlier but it is because of stress from doing ‘it all’.
60 posted on 04/06/2013 4:33:19 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: originalbuckeye

Women MAY be dying earlier but it is because of stress from doing ‘it all’. Remember when the Feminists said we could ‘have it all’? It really meant we would just have to do it ALL. Work, take care of kids, clean, cook, laundry, etc., etc., etc.

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This. And definitely....this.


61 posted on 04/06/2013 4:51:58 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: JerseyanExile
If that’s the case, than why is it that according to the map, more conservative, rural counties are suffering this problem more than liberal leaning urban/suburban ones?

I'm sure there are lots of local stories in play, but very broadly, the problem counties consist heavily of Appalachia, the Mississippi Delta, and Indian country. This will not surprise anyone who has paid attention to rural development issues.

62 posted on 04/06/2013 4:55:41 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Dusty Road
Yes, it would be interesting to see a breakout by ethnicity.

It would also be interesting to see crosstabs on urban/rural, and counties that are losing population vs. counties that are growing.

A lot of rural counties have been losing population for decades and have aging populations. To compound the issue, since good jobs are scarce in declining counties, the young people who stay are disproportionately the left-behinds.

A few of the sharp young people come home to take over family businesses and farms, or to be the next generation of small town teachers, doctors, and lawyers, but these numbers are limited. Most young people with educations leave for good, while the welfare classes stay.

Meth is a rural plague, and alcoholism is always a factor.

63 posted on 04/06/2013 5:04:35 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: LadyDoc

“But as a whole, the map is meaningless.”

Or- it means something, but there is no way to have clarity about what that is. And maybe that is the point. The map is an “empty vessel” into which anything useful to advance the Liberal Agenda can be poured and then used to advantage.


64 posted on 04/06/2013 5:04:39 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: blam
"Yet many American women today are living shorter lives than their mothers, especially those with the least education.

This does not surprise me at all...

"least education" is semantics for school drop out, baby mommas, obese, smoking, Cheetos munching, Mountain Dew big gulp guzzling women of all races...who can't cook a healthy decent meal if their life depending on it

They are just waiting to be a health train wreck later in life...dying early and an expensive death..

65 posted on 04/06/2013 5:05:47 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: blam

female mortality


66 posted on 04/06/2013 5:08:47 AM PDT by quintr
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To: blam

the huge number of children born out of wedlock (72%?)indicates that lifestyle is a contributing factor.


67 posted on 04/06/2013 5:16:51 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Enterprise

“So, just as men die younger, women are dying younger too!”

My thoughts exactly. Also, when the difference in lifespan for married versus single men is brought up (in which married men live longer), that has to come into play here as well - more women aren’t getting married.


68 posted on 04/06/2013 5:28:03 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: blam

with the exception of the upper Midwest, it looks like a map of the black population of the US.


69 posted on 04/06/2013 5:35:20 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Trod Upon

thank goodness too.

The only thing good about Obama having to be president for 3 1/2 more years is that Hillary will be 3 1/2 years older !


70 posted on 04/06/2013 5:39:21 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: autumnraine

Women MAY be dying earlier but it is because of stress from doing ‘it all’. Remember when the Feminists said we could ‘have it all’? It really meant we would just have to do it ALL. Work, take care of kids, clean, cook, laundry, etc., etc., etc.

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This. And definitely....this.

I know it will result in my own early death. I stayed home with my kids, but have now gone back to school and am about to embark on a relatively stressful career, well, because we need the money to pay the taxes and to have two beans at the end of our lives, maybe a few cents to pass on. I barely have time for myself, and yet STILL have to manage the household because hubby just doesn’t know much about the finer details of cleaning, cooking, etc. It’s just too much. When I was younger, most women MY age were out on the golf course, or home cooking, cleaning, decorating, relaxing finally ...

Granted, I will NEVER be depressed or suffer the empty nest sadness syndrome ...don’t have time. So who knows . . . I just do not have 2 hours to spend at the gym everyday.

I think Hillary is a liar, and is probably trolling for funding in some area ...it’s what she does.


71 posted on 04/06/2013 5:53:22 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: blam

Government handouts and unemployment benefits and government employment are in the blue counties. The red ones are the ones footing the bills. No wonder the stress levels are rising.


72 posted on 04/06/2013 5:56:57 AM PDT by x_plus_one (The future is ours, luke 22:36)
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To: DManA

I work in a nursing home. Two weeks ago we had a 107 year old woman die. A couple of months before we had another 107 year old die. We have lots of women in their mid-to-upper 90 year olds. A lot of them are in relatively good health. Anecdotal, I know. My grandmother was born in 1879 and lived to be 100.


73 posted on 04/06/2013 6:00:08 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: blam

The mortality rate for men is almost always higher than that of women, but this seems to escape these researchers


74 posted on 04/06/2013 6:01:43 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: 9YearLurker
Well, I definitely think that 70s feminism was a disaster for everyone but white, middle-class, educated women with connections and/or tremendous drive (a good thing). The rest ended up divorced, single parents, working pink-collar jobs and, generally, having a life of drudgery.
75 posted on 04/06/2013 6:07:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Dusty Road

It’s my opinion that Texas Panhandle sand storms will cause an early death.


76 posted on 04/06/2013 6:22:13 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: blam

No doubt, this is the Republicans’ fault. When Hillary runs, she will promise eternal life to all women who vote for her. And she’ll win because there are so many pathetically gullible women in the USA.


77 posted on 04/06/2013 6:27:26 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Enterprise
Can't speak for the entire country but in the rural south a majority of women were already working out of necessity before any feminist movement took root.

The rural south has been hit hard by trade policy and job loss. If women are statistically living shorter lives now compared to their mothers who likely worked, then working is not the cause. Not working is more likely to be causative.

Rural working class are inexorably sliding into poverty and dependence as a direct result of trade policy. With poverty and dependence comes hopelessness and substance abuse.

I see it all the time, former textile or furniture mill towns half deserted, what people remaining clearly on government assistance, otherwise they wouldn't be unoccupied during the course of the day. With poverty and government assistance comes Medicaid.

Hillary Clinton no doubt believed herself to be making a case for further government intervention and assistance via Obamacare with this “startling” statistic, but if anything it actually refutes her argument. For those who live in the rural south or on the urban fringe of it and see just what has been happening for twenty years or more, we're not exactly “startled.”

It was an inevitability.

Then, you have rural southern counties showing some improvement. What might be behind that, given the above? I can only speak for NC but I'd suggest looking at the racial makeup of those counties. In NC they're counties with a high percentage of black population, some actually majority black. Government efforts to improve mortality rates for black people have had some success. Of course, dependency and despondency has long been a problem in these communities, so stabilization or marginal improvement is not as difficult to achieve. Such individuals have little resistance to government programs and control, either.

So, what you're looking at is the toll of job loss upon rural working class white females. If they're dying off early it's the government that ultimately caused it, but Hillary Clinton proposes to ride in on a white horse (poor thing) and save them all... with more government.

Classic statist strategy, cause a problem, exacerbate it, then propose the "solution" that leads to more statist intervention. Then wash, rinse and repeat.

78 posted on 04/06/2013 6:27:36 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: originalbuckeye
Women MAY be dying earlier but it is because of stress from doing ‘it all’.

No, it's because they're too fat.

79 posted on 04/06/2013 6:33:05 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: detective

White,liberal woman,with graduate degrees and zero to one kid live in cities like New York, Chicago, San Fran. They tend not to smoke belong,to gyms, walk more and have 1st class medical centers nearby. No surprise.


80 posted on 04/06/2013 6:35:04 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: miss marmelstein

I would never argue against equal pay for equal work and equal hiring opportunities.

But yeah, major chunks of our society have made poor choices in the resulting environment.


81 posted on 04/06/2013 6:39:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: blam

The link does not now work.


82 posted on 04/06/2013 6:41:57 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: blam

You can thank feminism for that. These days a woman has to be mother, father, sole provider for too many families. Often with NO emotional support from anyone.


83 posted on 04/06/2013 6:42:38 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Cementjungle
Lately the drive by shootings in Chicago have been killing more 6 year old girls this year,

Impossible, guns are illegal in Chicago therefore gangbangers can't get them. The 6 year old girls are probably being killed by drive-by spear chunkers.

84 posted on 04/06/2013 6:45:10 AM PDT by epow ( He is risen, He is risen indeed"")
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To: blam

I assume this includes aborted women.


85 posted on 04/06/2013 6:45:48 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: G Larry
You might want to look at the correlation between ‘The Pill’ and breast cancer.

...and the link between abortion and breast cancer; smoking, lack of exercise, weekly trips to Cracker Barrel and Shoney's after church, unhealthy diets...

86 posted on 04/06/2013 6:45:57 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: theBuckwheat

It’s a map of historically independent people whose moral code held going on government assistance to be a shameful thing being driven into the ground, in comparison to historically dependent people or those who have given in being subsidized. Punishment and reward, from those who have always meted out such things when in control.


87 posted on 04/06/2013 6:53:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Coldwater Creek

No argument here and it’s that time of year.


88 posted on 04/06/2013 6:55:02 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: ilovesarah2012
My grandmother was born in 1879 and lived to be 100.

It's in the genes, if you don't smoke or have a fatal accident you will probably have a long life as well.

My mom was born in 1911 and died at 97, her mom died at 95, her mom at 92, and her mom at 102. All of them except my mom raised large families and outlived their husbands by quite a few years. Unfortunately for me my dad's family didn't have good genes to pass on to their male descendants.

89 posted on 04/06/2013 7:19:14 AM PDT by epow ( He is risen, He is risen indeed"")
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To: epow
Unfortunately for me my dad's family didn't have good genes to pass on to their male descendants.

If they didn't have good genes to pass on you wouldn't be here to post this. If longevity is valued above other qualities and traits with a genetic component, sire children later in life and keep doing it across generations.

And, keep marrying and fathering children with women who have a higher likelihood of longevity, which from your description sounds as if it's already being done, intentionally or not.

The X chromosome of the male XY is the contribution of the mother, after all. One X of the female XX is the contribution of the father.

Of my four grandparents, three lived to ninety or more, one died at 57 from a heart attack. Guess which one I most closely resemble? I've given the subject some thought, lol.

90 posted on 04/06/2013 7:42:39 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Blackirish
“White,liberal woman,with graduate degrees and zero to one kid live in cities like New York, Chicago, San Fran. They tend not to smoke belong,to gyms, walk more and have 1st class medical centers nearby. No surprise.”

You have correctly pointed out that the "study" does not account for lifestyle or socioeconomic factors. That alone is a major flaw and reason not to believe the false narrative in the "study".

I think you have fallen for the false premise in the “study” narrative that there is a cause and effect relationship between geographical location and health and mortality.

The data in the "study" it is based on some kind of average. There is far more variation within each county than between counties.

There is no attempt to address any of the variations in lifestyle, socioeconomic factors, etc.

The average life expectancy in the U.S. is over 70 years old. Very few Americans live their entire life within one county. The health care they receive varies throughout their lifetime and takes place at many different locations.

This “study” has nothing to do with health care. It is political disinformation.

91 posted on 04/06/2013 7:48:02 AM PDT by detective
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To: 9YearLurker

Well, I was being sarcastic....


92 posted on 04/06/2013 11:37:25 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: 9YearLurker; Dusty Road

Hispanic women have a higher rate of diabetes than white women (as do Native American...the link is that most Hispanics in the US are “metziso” with Native American blood). So I would guess diabetes might be a reason. Also Hipanic women don’t get pap smears or mammograms, so those cancers might be killing quite a few.

White women tend to have lung cancer at a high rate: the rate has gone way up because of smoking. Also breast cancer has gone way up too: either because they don’t have as many kids or from hormones or phytoestrogens in the environment....

High blood pressure is much more common in the black population, especially women, and often they are not treated, don’t take their pills because they don’t understand why they need pills because they feel okay.

As for violence: As one cop told me: The Hispanic women are beaten, but stay with their husbands. The black women are beaten, but usually throw the bum out or hit back.

I have seen a lot of domestic abuse of all sorts, but no women killed (kids killed by parents or boyfriends yes, but not women who died). So I am not an expert in this area.


93 posted on 04/07/2013 9:08:18 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc

Here’s an article on Hispanics, and Hispanic women, having the highest life expectancy in the US:

http://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/news/20101014/hispanics-have-highest-life-expectancy-in-u-s


94 posted on 04/08/2013 4:40:52 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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