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7 Reasons Marriage Is Falling Apart in America
Townhall.com ^ | April 6, 2013 | John Hawkins

Posted on 04/06/2013 7:32:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/06/2013 7:32:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

OTOH, look at the tables for almost any gummint freebie. The bennies go up with the number of dependents. So it pays to have children out of wedlock and claim to be unable to afford them. Two different names means two different benefit flows.


2 posted on 04/06/2013 7:35:06 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Kaslin

Marriage is falling apart because virtually every new so-called hip and exciting TV program today has a queer in it, a slut/whore, two people living together without benefit of marriage, complicated with a pattern of the usual actor diversity-inclusion standards now the network norm.

Religion, marriage, morals are regularly ridiculed for the hip characters trying to ‘hook up’ their queer friend with some other queer - never dwelling on any of the buggering or other unnatural acts that accompany such.

These contrarian lifestyles have been so homogenized, so diluted, so milquetoasted, I’ll bet you a normal 8 year old who’s been told ‘gay marriage’ is a right couldn’t tell you what these ‘gays’ actually physically do to ‘consecrate’ their unions. It is just sick sick sick perverted degeneration gussied up with network bandaid.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 7:40:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kaslin

Imho, no fault divorce is the number one destroyer of marriages.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 7:44:19 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I'll surrender my guns alright - bullets first)
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To: Kaslin

The government has created a disincentive for marriage. It takes money from you to pay the people who don’t get married but create more and more dependents.


5 posted on 04/06/2013 7:51:26 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Kaslin

“Do you think it is all right for a woman to have sexual relations before marriage with a man she knows she is going to marry?’ ...Eighty-six percent said no.”

I remember those days very well...


6 posted on 04/06/2013 7:52:29 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Kaslin
Unfortunately, as automation and technology have replaced some of those jobs and others have moved overseas to workers in China and India, the economic prospects for many men in this group have plunged.

Oops! You forgot the illegal aliens.

7 posted on 04/06/2013 7:54:40 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Gaffer

Yes definitely one of the prime reasons for the decline in marriage is the MEDIA.

I do not watch any of the current TV shows except a few police sagas. Only others I watch are the old westerns, notably The Rifleman and Have Gun Will Travel.

Reading today in our local rag, a Jax kindergarten teacher was fired for failing to properly supervise her classroom. Seems while she was away from keeping an eye on her charges, one male was giving another a BJ. I had to re read it twice to make sure I had it correct. Now then, where does one suppose one picked up that idea? So, they fire the teacher, frankly I would have melted down the kids and their parents, if they could be found.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 7:54:46 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Kaslin
I'd say the #1 reason why marriage is falling apart in America is that it has become a government-managed process rather than a real institution. As we conservatives all know, governments have a way of fouling up everything they get their hands on -- and marriage is no different.

What makes this so comical is that "same-sex marriage" has been front and center in the national spotlight even as "heterosexual marriage" is sliding into irrelevancy. To me, this would be the equivalent of the NAACP clamoring for segregated areas for black passengers at the back of all public buses. LOL.

9 posted on 04/06/2013 7:55:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Kaslin

The lack of morality.


10 posted on 04/06/2013 7:56:59 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s falling apart because it’s very legally disadvantageous to men. The deck is so heavily stacked in favor of women that it’s tantamount to involuntary indentured servitude for a term triple or more in comparison to the term of indenture for actual indentured servants historically.

And, men can lose everything they have on a whim, in addition to having their potential future earnings attached, and I say potential because actual future earnings have no bearing on the amount deemed due, unless earnings increase, then hold onto your hat because here comes babymama demanding more.

Out of work, sick? Too bad, off to debtor’s prison you go if you don’t pay tribute to the all-mighty babymama who impoverished you, alienated your children from you and owns a high percentage of your income for years to come.

What’s not to like? /s


11 posted on 04/06/2013 7:59:37 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kaslin

They left out the myth of the needed 2-income home.

After a while, when both parents work they have am LLP, not a family. It used to be the man worked, came home, and was doted on by his wife. Now they both come home exhausted, take over from the REAL parent — the nanny — and exchange a few grunts about work.

That isn’t a marriage.

Over time, the lack of intimacy leads to end of the family.

What is sad is when you do the math, 2 incomes doesn’t net very much money at all. Not worth ruining your family.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 7:59:39 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: Kaslin

Unrealistic expectations. Poor preparation.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 8:00:17 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Gaffer

“...contrarian lifestyles ...homogenized ...sick sick sick perverted generation ...”

I have recently read 2 books written by gays - very good writers, I might add. The gist of it is that the average American has no idea that gays DO NOT have the ability to commit to one man (this applies to most of them, 90% or so)

Part of the personality disorder causes the “chase” to be paramount. THe ones in so called committed relationships usually have an agreement that at least one is cruising/hooking up. This mindset is spreading to the heterosexual population too.

I have 3 20 something daughters and I can tell you their peers are mostly NOT getting married or are having baby daddies outside of marriage. Thank God none of the daughters are buying into it. Still, the hooking up lifestyle is the norm (gay or not) and I don’t think the so called moral majority (now minority thanks to TV as you point out) are even aware of how bad it actually is.


14 posted on 04/06/2013 8:04:14 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Kaslin

You forgot contraception.


15 posted on 04/06/2013 8:04:31 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Kaslin

1) Wrath

2) Greed

3) Sloth

4) Pride

5) Lust

6) Envy

7) Gluttony


16 posted on 04/06/2013 8:13:14 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Kaslin

A whole generation of young people will look back someday and notice they had no real childhood, no real innocent childhood sweethearts, no real romances-just meaningless hookups and nothing to have fond memories about....

I dont think they will be too happy about it


17 posted on 04/06/2013 8:17:16 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kaslin
I think #6 is the big one. Guys see other guys financially destroyed by divorce, and their kids alienated from them. Most of the time, the guy didn't do anything other than not being fulfilling or exciting any more.

I've seen many of my friends dumped by their wives when they found boyfriends they considered less boring or more prosperous.

That, combined with the ability to get sex without marriage, makes marriage unattractive to men with options.

18 posted on 04/06/2013 8:18:58 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: I want the USA back

“...pay the people who don’t get married...”

I was recently looking at houses in a city on the metro north train line out of Manhattan. This house was an incubator for Mexican anchor babies. There were at least 25 children living there from 6 months to roughly 5. I cannot describe to you how shocked I was. I am fairly sure that all of the maternity costs were paid for by US taxpayers at some type of maternity clinic.

The demise of this county has already happened. Only fools are maintaining any illusions (republican party?? Joke!!)


19 posted on 04/06/2013 8:20:46 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: RegulatorCountry

WOW!! So right- the idea that women are downtrodden is completely the opposite. Colleges are well over 50% women. I am a woman and the men must wake up.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 8:22:44 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Kaslin
The answer is easy:

"All I had to do was have a kid. I never have to worry about a man or a job for the rest of my life. The more kids I have, the more money I get on my EBT card. I don't even have to raise those kids myself. The state does it for me.

Now, excuse me. I have to go get my nails done. I have a date tonight."

21 posted on 04/06/2013 8:23:04 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: RegulatorCountry

“It’s falling apart because it’s very legally disadvantageous to men. The deck is so heavily stacked in favor of women that it’s tantamount to involuntary indentured servitude for a term triple or more in comparison to the term of indenture for actual indentured servants historically.”

We are already indentured servants on our jobs. They have taken Christmas Eve, New Year’s Eve, and Good Friday away as holidays to make us work. Wages and benefits stink, and it’s hard to find a job at all. Who would want to face the crapshoot marriage has become in their private lives and add to our misery? And I’ve been married almost 36 years.

The government wrecked marriage and the courts and society killed it off.


22 posted on 04/06/2013 8:31:53 AM PDT by Luke21
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Western Civilization is collapsing. A collapse of necessity involves all institutions social, political, economic, the arts etc. Not surprising as once free of the restraints imposed by giving up bachelorhood one is free to seek ever more pleasure and power. The latter two being the very essence of individualism in the 21st century.
23 posted on 04/06/2013 8:37:52 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Kaslin

Happily divorced for 10 years. Why own when you can lease skilled workers for less money?


24 posted on 04/06/2013 8:37:58 AM PDT by orlop9
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To: Kaslin
It's the fault of Wal-Mart and McDonalds.

Men and women no longer need each other to survive. Back when civilization was more agricultural women needed men to plow and plant the fields, hunt the game, build the cabin, etc.

Men needed women to help harvest the crop, can the vegetables for the winter, bear and raise the future farmhands (the children), cook his meals, etc.

Now we can get everything we need at Wal-Mart and McDonalds.

25 posted on 04/06/2013 8:43:43 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: orlop9
Happily divorced for 10 years. Why own when you can lease skilled workers for less money?

No one has to buy the cow today. There's free milk everywhere. Because of the morning after pill, a man can ride 'em hard, put them away wet, and move on to the next critter.
Easy women are a dime a dozen. They're disposable. Use 'em, and then throw 'em away!

26 posted on 04/06/2013 8:44:56 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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We are living in a culture of women being tramps and men just being sorry guys (not all-the good people keeps things going as best as they can. Imo) because the left has made sure they take morality out of our society. One day, all of this will come tumbling down. We are already heading right to that with sodomy being protected and seeing no respect for the mom and dad relationship and that importance to a small child. The government punishing those who marry and giving to those who just have dependents. Yeah, it's a mess. The liberals did this as the republicans went along or as they were off running weak. Man did this as it has been predicted would happen. All of those people in power are the worse bunch of so called leaders that our nation has had to endure. I can't think of hardly any of them that I do have respect for. To see them speak, to the citizens, is such a let down because they show no guidance and inspiration. It's like they know the best..and it comes across as they must control us ..not making sure the government is not over stepping. They only want to grow it more into our lives. They're doing activities and over reaches like we read about in books of earlier civilizations. I wonder often, why we have the rebellion 60's movement in charge. They are the last group that needs this kind of power.
27 posted on 04/06/2013 8:45:09 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: stonehouse01

I can’t recall a more depressing thread in all my years with FR.

No argument with any of the opinions expressed in these posts; they’ve all been insightful and accurate.
The calamity that has befallen our culture is beyond reckoning.


28 posted on 04/06/2013 8:47:55 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

“No fault divorce is the number one destroyer of marriages.”

You mean, automatic “his-fault” divorce.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 8:52:03 AM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: Kaslin
United States still has the highest marriage rate of any country - source.
30 posted on 04/06/2013 8:57:02 AM PDT by Scutter
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...a more depressing thread...”

ALL of the threads could be tied into this cloth, sorry to say...

This thread has attracted great minds, as well.

So, let’s go stoic with Marcus Aurelius and get real.


31 posted on 04/06/2013 9:00:32 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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Why is marriage collapsing in America?

"With the transfer of the means of production into common ownership, the single family ceases to be the economic unit of society....The care and education of the children becomes a public affair; society looks after all children alike, whither they are legitimate or not."

Frederick Engels

Libtard government policies that cause the collapse of marriage plus homo marriage are causing Engels' prediction to be coming true, which is their goal anyway. When the government raises all children equally, that is the way to achieve their goal of equality of opportunity.

32 posted on 04/06/2013 9:00:36 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: concerned about politics

see my #19


33 posted on 04/06/2013 9:03:33 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Gaffer
Not only the programs, but also the commercials. Almost every commercial shows a happy single mother and her children with no father in evidence.

I saw a commercial for Sprint a while ago where this hot girl gets on a lounger next to a guy and says something like she loves her I-Pad on Sprint and he says "yeah so does my husband". They must have gotten many e-mails like mine because I never saw the commercial again.

34 posted on 04/06/2013 9:05:32 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: Romulus
"You forgot contraception."

Yep. And I'll add Religions have ignored sin.

35 posted on 04/06/2013 9:08:06 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Luke21

“...the government wrecked marriage and the courts and society killed it off...”

Amen. The whole gay marriage issue is a canard. Marriage has NOTHING to do with government - so let them wreck it. Let it go.


36 posted on 04/06/2013 9:08:21 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Kaslin

Commitment not every can do it.Only the strong can.


37 posted on 04/06/2013 9:08:32 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Gaffer

The reason that Gay marriage has gotten so much traction is that traditional marriage has become de-linked from child-rearing already. IOW’s society no longer accepts the basic assumption of the family unit based on a married couple. So why not Gay marriage? (or any other alternate interpretations of the institution?)

I think the hip-gay on the hit TV sitcom is more a symptom of family decline than an underlying cause. But going forward you might be more right. Everything is a feed-back loop.


38 posted on 04/06/2013 9:12:14 AM PDT by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania.)
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To: orlop9

Scary and true. Ok, unless you have daughters and you really care that they find someone who can commit.


39 posted on 04/06/2013 9:12:57 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Tallguy

“...why not gay marriage..”

We are done. Christianity attempted to raise women to equal status. Even if a person is not Christian, that capital rode for many centuries for the benefit of many, even if they had not clue as to why.


40 posted on 04/06/2013 9:18:47 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: blueunicorn6
Unrealistic expectations. Poor preparation.

And that is why the Catholic church requires Pre-Cana classes before you can marry in the Church.

41 posted on 04/06/2013 9:20:13 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Vaduz
Commitment not every can do it.Only the strong can.

Get rid of the "Set up for life" social programs, and people will start needing and wanting each other again. Neighbors will start needing neighbors again. Nation and nation, kingdom and kingdom will start working together again.

The politicians, who like playing God, have sold the people of the world a lie for the sake of their own power and privilege (and their tower of socialist Babble is just about ready to fall).

42 posted on 04/06/2013 9:23:18 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Agree the politicians are a big part of the problem they make people weaker not stronger.
For it’s all about votes and power.


43 posted on 04/06/2013 9:32:14 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Gaffer

Well said.

I remember the Murphy Brown/Dan Quayle exchange.

We conservatives need to push back harder. Quayle and others (Bill Cosby) have been severely beaten after they have confronted the mainstream on unwed mothers and the very obvious causes of poverty.

For anyone to be attacked for the number one cause of all of the social issues in our society is ridiculous.

Poverty and violence in the inner cities can be traced to a broken home.


44 posted on 04/06/2013 9:34:25 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Kaslin

We have 6 children 3 boys and 3 girls.Nobody was allowed to move in with someone.If you did you could leave your partner at home because they were not welcomed in my house.They also knew to marry in their faith and commit to it.As a family we back them up and we all help.If you have children we help watch them.If you buy a house do it based on one salary.The kids all stuck to it.Biggest thing is your faith.Go to church.I have a 30 year old daughter,most of her friends live together.She is married with a child.Her friends say they are afraid to have children.I can’t figure it out.


45 posted on 04/06/2013 9:34:29 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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46 posted on 04/06/2013 9:35:44 AM PDT by narses
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To: mc5cents

“... Catholic church Pre-Cana, etc...”

All true, except the Church has given up since Vatican II. The Chruch quit its true teaching (magisterium) role in the 60’s.


47 posted on 04/06/2013 9:48:28 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: fatima
"We have 6 children 3 boys and 3 girls."

Thanks. You add the missing ingredient. There has been a lot of good points made on why marriage breaks up. You have made the point of what keeps marriage intact forever.

Children with a stay at home mom and an involved dad is hard to beat.

48 posted on 04/06/2013 10:03:49 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Kaslin

When asked are YOU brain washed to some extent.?...
If you say NO, then you surely are... and maybe delusional as well..

Propaganda is a scientific fact... “Logans Run” is a metaphor of reality..


49 posted on 04/06/2013 10:06:44 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: concerned about politics

Intimacy no longer has meaning beyond the pleasure of the moment. A man no longer needs to win a dame’s heart with chivalry and sonnets of love.

On free milk everywhere, as Aristotle observed that which is ubiquitous is deemed less valuable than that which is rare.

I agree, albeit with a heavy heart, with the poster who saw all of this as merely symptomatic of the broader collapse of Western civilization.


50 posted on 04/06/2013 10:09:10 AM PDT by Lexinom
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