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7 Reasons Marriage Is Falling Apart in America
Townhall.com ^ | April 6, 2013 | John Hawkins

Posted on 04/06/2013 7:32:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Gaffer

It appears that Hollywood is the seat of Satan’s power. It is full of willing subjects.


51 posted on 04/06/2013 10:09:12 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: hosepipe

“...Propaganda is a scientific fact..

I have no idea what Logans Run is, however I do know that this country is brain washed to the extent that they are oblivious.


52 posted on 04/06/2013 10:12:29 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: ex-snook

Thanks,what I can’t figure out is why the my daughter’s 30 something friends are afraid to be mother’s.They have told me this.


53 posted on 04/06/2013 10:14:52 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: RegulatorCountry

“It’s falling apart because it’s very legally disadvantageous to men.”

That’s right, and our aging spinsters will shake their fists at the men who won’t marry them while insisting on keeping those laws in place.

In may area the only people breeding are immigrants; the whites that bother to get married get his and hers dogs...

The article is right in the first sentence; this is not something unfolding at some future point; it is happening NOW, and the political ramifications are frightening.


54 posted on 04/06/2013 10:18:00 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: fatima

“Thanks,what I can’t figure out is why the my daughter’s 30 something friends are afraid to be mother’s.They have told me this.”

They’ll have to focus on something more important than themselves, and the commitment is for the rest of their lives. It is a lot easier to spend money on yourself, raise an animal instead, and complain about the proliferation of dark people jabbering in strange tongues in your old neighborhoods...


55 posted on 04/06/2013 10:22:56 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Lexinom

“...that which is ubiquitous is deemed less valuable...”

The women gave it up - why did they do it? the rare thing they had, their feminine value, the women in power threw out. They echanged their true value for nothing.


56 posted on 04/06/2013 10:33:35 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

“The demise of this county has already happened.”

Absolutely; I’ve said for years that the demographic nightmare is here NOW, not 40 years down the road. In my area, Americans are disappearing and being replaced by Asians and Hispanics; pregnant whites are rarely seen, while nearly 1/3 of Hispanic females over 16 seem to be pregnant (and showing).

Neither party will defend Americans (even within their own constituencies); the Repubs selling out the white middle class has been matched by Dems selling out the black permanent underclass.


57 posted on 04/06/2013 10:39:06 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

“...Americans are disappearing ....”

See my post#19. I was astounded by the Mexican children in this incubator house. I suppose I was niave because I knew about it intellectually per se, now I saw it in real life.

We are done. To quote you - the Dems have sold out to make the black the permanent underclass. The permanent dem plantation.

Lest I sound racist - look at the Irish not hired in the 20’s/30’s!!! Irish need not apply - not permanent victim statuS !!!


58 posted on 04/06/2013 11:00:29 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Kaslin

I’m there...


59 posted on 04/06/2013 11:06:11 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: P.O.E.

You nailed it. The article is OK, but it failed to mention the #1 reason why marriages are failing.

And that is the family is under attack by our government. From the divorce courts, from the welfare agencies, from the same-sex marriage laws, from the overturning of DOMA, and a thousand other laws, policies and regulations stemming back from the onset of the Great Society - Our government is dead-set on destroying the backbone of our culture; that is the family.

Sure there are a ton of cultural and social ills like pornography and the homosexual agenda. But none of these would be nearly effective as they are if it were not for a willing and powerful government.


60 posted on 04/06/2013 11:23:49 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: FReepaholic

“It’s the fault of Wal-Mart and McDonalds.”

It is their fault!! They created this mess!!


61 posted on 04/06/2013 11:39:56 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Responsibility2nd

1) Government policies

2) Public schools

3) Universities

4) MSM


62 posted on 04/06/2013 12:37:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: anoldafvet

“...Not only the programs, but also the commercials..”

Avoid TV - unwatchable for the discerning.


63 posted on 04/06/2013 12:47:05 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

I don’t know why they did it. I’m a single man and wish I could find a woman like that in my age group. Almost to a person they do not value romance and chivalry and expect to be jumped on the first date. I guess I’m odd for a guy, but I find that both distasteful and disgusting.


64 posted on 04/06/2013 1:02:36 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

Well, I wish there were more men like you.


65 posted on 04/06/2013 1:09:00 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Kaslin
My girlfriend and I are planning to get married this July, but am seriously debating to file a marriage license.

With Obamacare coming, and possibly seeing the prospect of loosing employer health coverage it would possibly be best not to be married.

Since she works part time, she would be able to get fully subsidized coverage from the gov’t and if we have a child, he/she would be covered under her Obamacare policy.

I would just pay the fine for not having any until I need it then sign up.

The prospect of having to pay $25,000/yr for a plan to cover a family would be about 1/3 my take home salary and leave hardly anything else for mortgage/bills/etc...

I can see the divorce rate go way up after Obamacare as people won't be able to afford care and companies drop coverage and pay the “fine”.

66 posted on 04/06/2013 1:15:06 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Kaslin; GeronL
When I was very small, I dreamt of entering an enchanted adulthood like that envisioned in Rodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella (as seen on TV, 1965).

What followed:

The Pill.

Vatican II.

"Women's liberation." "Free to Be You and Me." (Remember that one?)

Roe v. Wade.

The world I entered as an adult is a very bleak landscape.

I cringe when I hear a woman refer to her live-in male companion as her "partner" as if it's some bloodless business arrangement.

I walk by an Arthur Murray Dance Studio and wonder if they still have any business.

I remember when ladies wore hats and gloves, and men wore suits and ties, and opened doors for ladies and walked curbside to protect them.

I remember when marriage (man and woman marriage, so sorry I have to define what has been traditional!) was something to cherish and look forward to.

I remember when a date was supposed to end with a kiss under the porch light.

Silly me.

67 posted on 04/06/2013 1:18:58 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: stonehouse01

I liked the “incubator” reference; too true.

Welfare was reformed because the breeding of suburban Americans starting resembling that of the permanent urban underclass; now all Americans are subsidizing the “replacement Americans”, not needed for workers so much as students in our classrooms and consumers (not producers) of other “services”.


68 posted on 04/06/2013 1:36:27 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: thecodont

Nope, I’m different. The different are culled from the herd and (according to conventional wisdom) destroyed. This man, though, won’t go without a fight for right.


69 posted on 04/06/2013 1:38:25 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: stephenjohnbanker

5) Hollywood/TV

6) Popular Music


70 posted on 04/06/2013 1:45:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

100% of all divorces started in marriage.

Being told the majority of things I do are wrong (cooking, cleaning, etc) I am at the point of why bother?

The Caucasian male is the butt of most jokes, the imbecile, the bigot, the liar, cheater, drunk, murdering rapist pedophile. We get that treatment on TV, radio, work, and now at home. Is there any wonder why American men are marrying foreign women?

If anything happened to my American wife, I can safely say I would never marry another American.


71 posted on 04/06/2013 1:59:46 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yep


72 posted on 04/06/2013 2:01:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stonehouse01

I have no idea what Logans Run is, however I do know that this country is brain washed to the extent that they are oblivious.


Logans Run—>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUUnc1M0TA


73 posted on 04/06/2013 2:22:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Kaslin

Dr. Laura used to tell women to find a guy who’d swim through shark-infested waters to bring them a lemonade.

I love my husband.
He’s put up with me for 37 years.
The man’s a saint.


74 posted on 04/06/2013 2:28:29 PM PDT by b9
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To: dhs12345

“...we conservatives need to push back harder...”
It is way too late for push back. We have to lead and it has to be our teens/early twenties who can do it.

I am skeptical - very few can raise their children against this grain. Good luck to all


75 posted on 04/06/2013 2:33:59 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: b9

Post of the day!!!! Mine has put up with me for 35!!!


76 posted on 04/06/2013 2:35:30 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01
";^)
77 posted on 04/06/2013 2:41:02 PM PDT by b9
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To: PapaBear3625
Guys see other guys financially destroyed by divorce, and their kids alienated from them. Most of the time, the guy didn't do anything other than not being fulfilling or exciting any more.

I've seen many of my friends dumped by their wives when they found boyfriends they considered less boring or more prosperous.

And therein is the problem. After a divorce I was ruined financially for 15 years. I had zero say in any of it. I lived in the "hood" because I couldn't afford better, drove a POS car because I simply couldn't afford better, and if I had the temerity to purchase a newer car my CS payments went up in the equal amount to the loan amount. Almost zero contact with my kids. Zero prospects for a girlfriend since I had no disposable income for things like "dates". Ivy League educated Engineer/Project Manager and I had less than two nickels to rub together

Not that I wouldn't have gotten married again, there were no takers at that time, and a girlfriend would have been grounds to raise the CS even further.

78 posted on 04/06/2013 4:30:43 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Absolutely correct - I might reverse or adjust the order though.


79 posted on 04/06/2013 6:19:04 PM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Christie at the beach
Agreed with everything in your comment #27: great observations and truth.

"It's like they know the best..and it comes across as they must control us ..not making sure the government is not over stepping. They only want to grow it more into our lives. They're doing activities and over reaches like we read about in books of earlier civilizations. I wonder often, why we have the rebellion 60's movement in charge. They are the last group that needs this kind of power."

I can tell you why. The most publicized and/or influential '60s counter-culture kids were the children of the crop of the most influential constituents before them. They were bound to be in influential positions. It's not all merit-based ("who you know"). The moral slide was gradual at first and not so much noticed, then accelerated. Notice what the moral slide has done to potential new competition (crushed scattered families, regulations, "free" trade, political correctness and so on).


80 posted on 04/06/2013 7:44:15 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kaslin
"7 Reasons Marriage Is Falling Apart in America"

We all know what was done to marriage--especially no-fault divorce. Some of us are more honest about it, others aren't.

But that's nearly behind us. See where our economy is going. See the outrageous saturation of our society immorality, regulations and other corruption against new competition from families.

That saturation of our country and people with a heavy storm of intrusions and regulations against families will be the undoing of the corruption behind it. There are not enough revenues to support such a socialistic, counterproductive mess, as we are seeing.


81 posted on 04/06/2013 7:49:48 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kaslin

Little correction of my last comment here. See the outrageous saturation of our society with immorality,...


82 posted on 04/06/2013 7:51:49 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
It’s falling apart because it’s very legally disadvantageous to men.

Modern marriage is often just the first stage of divorce. After the wife initiates the second "formal divorce" stage, the man learns that when he chose to marry he also unintentionally agreed to subjugate himself to a series of feminist judges in the family court system. If there are kids, that subjugation continues for many years after the marriage is gone. Eventually chump-hubby learns to call the ongoing nightmare his "life."

Strangely enough, those men tell their friends, and word gets around.

83 posted on 04/06/2013 7:56:28 PM PDT by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives.)
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To: familyop

—>>>I can tell you why. The most publicized and/or influential ‘60s counter-culture kids were the children of the crop of the most influential constituents before them. They were bound to be in influential positions. It’s not all merit-based (”who you know”). The moral slide was gradual at first and not so much noticed, then accelerated. Notice what the moral slide has done to potential new competition (crushed scattered families, regulations, “free” trade, political correctness and so on).

Great comments and so agree. Thank you for sharing with me.


84 posted on 04/06/2013 8:18:32 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach
I will tell you that, when checking the names on school book receipts, a kid having the same last name as their parent was rare enough to make me comment to a colleague.
85 posted on 04/06/2013 8:51:14 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Kaslin

As with many things, government is much to blame. When government took over caring for people (social security, medicare, medicaid, welfare), then families were no longer a means of financial support. Now with the army of counselors and do-gooders, families aren’t even expected to provide emotional support. Uncle Sam has become husband, daddy, and caretaker of our elderly. Not going well, is it?


86 posted on 04/06/2013 9:03:33 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Ouderkirk
After a divorce I was ruined financially for 15 years.

I've seen exactly this with several of my close friends. Now, every day I come home and my clothes aren't in a pile in the driveway, I THANK GOD, and give my wife a BIG hug.

Honestly... given what she COULD have gotten? I don't know why she didn't leave me. I think, I would have left me... :-(

I have two sons... and, I have VERY mixed feeling about whether or not I want them to marry. I have taught them one thing for sure: Getting "married" doesn't really change your life that much.. you just know who your date is. Having CHILDREN.. CHANGES EVERYTHING... It's a 21 year economic contract.. that may, or may not involve being able to enjoy your children.

Anymore... ? I'm not sure the risks are worth it. I feel EXTREMELY LUCKY, after 30 years of marriage... but, it's STILL a day-to-day thing.

87 posted on 04/07/2013 5:48:54 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Kaslin
"In 1960, two-thirds (68%) of all twenty-somethings were married. In 2008, just 26% were." "To get a sense of how different attitudes were in the 1960s, perhaps this will do it. (M)arried women were asked, ‘In your opinion, do you think it is all right for a woman to have sexual relations before marriage with a man she knows she is going to marry?’ ...Eighty-six percent said no."

My first was in 1977... it finally happened after about 6 MONTHS of progressively heavier petting.. and begging, and groveling....I must have rounded 20 bases trying to get home!

In the end, I didn't marry that one...

A few years later, my wife gave way MUCH quicker.... about 1 1/2 hours after we first touched one another. But then, we'd been "friends" for 7+ years...so, I guess she COULD claim a longer time. She STILL fires me up quickly! :-)

88 posted on 04/07/2013 5:53:34 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Be careful who you marry.


89 posted on 04/07/2013 1:57:09 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin

Personally, I think it is because we subsidize bastardy.


90 posted on 04/07/2013 2:16:09 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: stonehouse01
Actually in the 20s and 30s, the Irish dominated most large city political machines and engaged in racism/discrimination of the worst sort against Jews, blacks, amd Italians. They had their own form of welfare in the form of no-show and make work jobs, and were tax eaters, rather than tax contributors (unless your name was Kennedy, that is).

BTW: No Irish Need Apply signs have never been historically documented.

91 posted on 04/07/2013 5:43:26 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: hosepipe

I’m in my late forties, so I saw Logan’s run way back when. It was the canary in the coal mine. It accurately describes what our society has become. The only thing that it doesn’t accurately portray is the whole hand crystal thing. There won’t be security forces terminating runners. People will self-terminate. With the majority of Americans unprepared for retirement (yes – we all get too old to work), the younger generation unable to find work, and the destruction of the family, there will be no way to survive. Suicide will become the norm. The great social programs are all going bankrupt. 17 trillion of national debt – increased yearly by trillion dollar deficits). 80 to 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities (SS, Medicare, public sector pensions) and 1.2 quadrillion (1000 trillion) in derivatives (next ephemeral wealth bubble getting ready to burst). I was born at the beginning of the sexual revolution and have witnessed first-hand the beginning – to – end destruction brought about by progressive ideals. I don’t blame any political party. I blame ‘we the people’. We’ve destroyed ourselves. Our political leaders were voted in by us. They reflect our collective values (or lack thereof). If you chose to live your life responsibly, you’ll be the one to pay the highest price. Disillusionment is the state of being freed of illusions, enchantments and false beliefs.


92 posted on 04/08/2013 6:42:55 AM PDT by FullyAwake
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To: GeronL

A whole generation of young people will look back someday and notice they had no real childhood, no real innocent childhood sweethearts, no real romances-just meaningless hookups and nothing to have fond memories about....

I dont think they will be too happy about it


So true, when the beauty and thrill of youth fades, the reality of adulthood will come crashing down.....


93 posted on 04/08/2013 7:43:59 AM PDT by patriotspride
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