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Tragic: Pastor Rick Warren announces son's suicide to congregation
Twitchy ^ | 04/06/2013 | n/a

Posted on 04/06/2013 1:53:51 PM PDT by Pyro7480

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Prayers for the family and friends of Rick Warren and his son.

Further reporting: Saddleback Church Says Rick Warren's Son Has Committed Suicide

1 posted on 04/06/2013 1:53:51 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480

Rick needs prayers to turn away from Satan. Rick is over the deep end.


2 posted on 04/06/2013 1:58:37 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Pyro7480

How sad. Prayers for family.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 1:59:31 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: bmwcyle

God help us all.

Prayers.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 1:59:46 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Pyro7480

I can only imagine the pain Pastor Rick Warren’s and his family is experiencing. My prayers for you and for them. May God give you peace.


5 posted on 04/06/2013 2:00:43 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: bmwcyle

“Rick needs prayers to turn away from Satan. Rick is over the deep end.

Why do people feel the need to post the first stupid thought that pops into their head when something tragic happens to someone else.
Show some compassion....


6 posted on 04/06/2013 2:01:03 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (ok)
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To: Pyro7480

Very, very sad.
Prayers for his sweet soul and his family.


7 posted on 04/06/2013 2:01:54 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

And the first stupid thing posted was what ?


8 posted on 04/06/2013 2:02:53 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Zeneta; bmwcyle

did you read bmwcyle’s post?


9 posted on 04/06/2013 2:04:28 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (ok)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Some much for compassion.


10 posted on 04/06/2013 2:05:45 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Zeneta

Edit. “So”


11 posted on 04/06/2013 2:06:16 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Pyro7480

The surest quickest way to die and go to Heaven is to be killed for your Christian faith while professing that faith.

Suicide is very much counterproductive to that goal.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 2:06:32 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Pyro7480

RIP.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 2:07:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Pyro7480

Compassion on the Internet. Al Gore, Internet’s inventor, is turning over in his grave!


14 posted on 04/06/2013 2:09:29 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Pyro7480

I guess you should have put yours in “breaking news.”


15 posted on 04/06/2013 2:11:05 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I have lived with mild to severe depression for well over 10 years.

Thoughts of suicide are nothing new to me.

Slamming my car into a bridge at 120 mph.

Jumping from my 20th floor balcony.

My faith is the only thing that keeps me alive.


16 posted on 04/06/2013 2:14:12 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Pyro7480

It’s best not to comment on the state of the Warrens’ hearts or home. Unless you’ve got cameras and microphones hidden throughout their house, you’re just guessing.

The most faithful Christian families get pounded spiritually. We would all be wise to let God be their judge.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 2:14:18 PM PDT by lurk
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To: bmwcyle

Endorsing this whole Chrislam idea is the real problem going on here with Rick.


18 posted on 04/06/2013 2:16:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Pyro7480

A guy I used to know and help is setting himself up as a public speaker, New Age type, has published two books, which I helped him edit, surprising myself by avoiding to judge their content while we were doing it, and he’s now a guru to help you with relationships, personal and business. Website, videos, national speaker’s bureau. When I knew him, not quite two years ago, and he was writing these books, or rather one book, that somehow gave birth to two books, he was going through serious family problems, foreign born wife with the typical for such women high expectations that he wasn’t able to meet, small child, small income. And now? Are those problems over? I hope so, but somehow I doubt it.


19 posted on 04/06/2013 2:22:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Zeneta

At times we forget to love ourselves. Keep your good faith and love yourself as God loves you.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 2:22:36 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Pyro7480

so sad... someone who is suicidal is in such a dark, desperate, seemingly hopeless place... how scary to be the parent, spouse, child or sibling of a suicidal person... actually, any close relation to a suicidal person... obviously, suicide is an anomaly...


21 posted on 04/06/2013 2:22:41 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Pyro7480

My prayers to the family. May their son rest in peace.


22 posted on 04/06/2013 2:26:46 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Zeneta

I will keep you in my prayers. Keep strong and stay close to God’s love.


23 posted on 04/06/2013 2:30:18 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Pyro7480

“Dad, I know I’m going to heaven. Why can’t I just die and end this pain?”

Good lord. If my son said that to me, I would immediately get him help. I don’t care how much it costs. Yes his son was selfish and his parents lives are ruined most likely forever, but the Father should have known something was wrong. The guilt these parents are going to have is going to be tremendous. I pray for them.


24 posted on 04/06/2013 2:32:32 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Zeneta

“Slamming my car into a bridge at 120 mph.

Jumping from my 20th floor balcony.”

Whoah! Are you serious????


25 posted on 04/06/2013 2:37:10 PM PDT by MNDude (I survived the sequester!)
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To: lurk
The most faithful Christian families get pounded spiritually. We would all be wise to let God be their judge.

Except the most faithful Christians do not preach Chritslam and no one is trying to martyr Rick Warren so no one here is judging him.

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

When someone preaches something that goes totally against Scripture faithful Christians are not suppose to sit back and keep their mouth shut and say nothing . This mentality is why we are having the problems we are in this nation .

You say something to a muslim that he doesn't like - he chops off your head - that is judging someone .
You say something that goes against Scripture and a faithful Christian points out that you are wrong is not the same thing . The faithful Christian might be giving you a headache from what you have heard but he isn't sentencing you by chopping off your head so do not equate the two .


BTW Rick Warren helped elect Obama.
26 posted on 04/06/2013 2:38:23 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Christie at the beach; Berlin_Freeper

Thank you

For some people it is the dichotomy between respect and humility.

I can imagine what Rick’s son was going through.

But we will never know for sure.

Having individual thoughts without the ability to express them or failed attempts to express them, can cut a man down.


27 posted on 04/06/2013 2:48:47 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: MNDude

“Slamming my car into a bridge at 120 mph.

Jumping from my 20th floor balcony.”

Whoah! Are you serious????


Not today, but, yes, I have been there a number of times.


28 posted on 04/06/2013 2:50:53 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Pyro7480

May God comfort the family and have mercy on the son’s soul.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 2:51:05 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Zeneta

Bill sat down next to a blonde at the bar and stared up at the TV.

The 10 PM news was coming on. The news crew was covering the story of a man on the ledge of a large building, preparing to jump.

The blonde looked at Bill and said, “Do you think he’ll jump?”

Bill said, “You know, I bet he’ll jump.”

The blonde replied, “Well, I bet he won’t.”

Bill placed a $20 bill on the bar and said, “You’re on!”

Just as the blonde placed her money on the bar, the guy on the ledge did a swan dive off the building, falling to his death.

The blonde was very upset but willingly handed her $20 to Bill. “Fair’s fair. Here’s your money.”

Bill replied, “I can’t take your money. I saw this earlier on the 5 PM news, so I knew he would jump.”

The blonde replied, “I did too, but I didn’t think he’d do it again.”

Bill took the money.


30 posted on 04/06/2013 2:51:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Attention for a lonely man.


31 posted on 04/06/2013 2:53:26 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Revolting cat!

LOL - I gotta steal that one!


32 posted on 04/06/2013 2:54:27 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Zeneta

Keep your faith and stay close to God.

May God bless you, Zeneta.


33 posted on 04/06/2013 2:56:06 PM PDT by laplata (The Answer To 1984 Is 1776)
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To: Lera

Rick is playing with fire in attempting to convert Muslims unless he can clearly distinguish between Muslims who want to kill you and Muslims who want to be friends, but I haven’t seen anything personally that he is compromising his Christian beliefs or preaching anything against scripture at all.


34 posted on 04/06/2013 2:58:18 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: Zeneta

I’ve been there, too and, like you, my faith in God kept me from doing something terribly wrong. I still have those dark thoughts but getting through them much better these daze.

Keep your faith and talk to others - just to vent is helpful.

We are all here for you.


35 posted on 04/06/2013 3:01:56 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Pyro7480
I contemplated suicide many times when I was growing up because I was forced by my parents to be in church several times a week, both when there was some sort of service going on and not.

I finally escaped that tyrrany in 1970 and never went back.

I understand the frustration. If it were not for our church library where I could check out Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew books to distract me during those seemingly endless and repetitive services, I would have gone insane.

36 posted on 04/06/2013 3:19:13 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Lera

Just a quick question/comment. When we are speaking or interacting directly with a fellow Believer concerning a possible error in our actions, this scripture makes sense assuming our comments are made privately, with respect and out of love (agape).

I am not aware that Pastor Warren is a member of FreeRepublic and suspect that if he is, he would be otherwise occupied with larger issues than reading this thread. When the individual is not present or we are not interacting directly with them, but instead are interacting with others, how would our comments differ from gossip?

This is merely a question, not an admonition.


37 posted on 04/06/2013 3:19:33 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: Pyro7480

Depression is a terrible thing. Anyone who has experienced it from time to time, or even worse, continuously, can attest to the helplessness and hopelessness of the experience. Nothing that anyone says seems to help.

So sad for the family which experiences such a loss. It’s like watching a loved one drown and not being able to rescue them.


38 posted on 04/06/2013 3:33:08 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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Suicide is an awful thing, such finality in response to temporary problems. It’s also outside God’s will. It’s not our decision to make. I’m not going to condemn this young man personally, for who knows whether he was even capable of understanding what he did, or whether he was able to repent of it before he left this world? I surely don’t know. And, I’m sorry for the pain and sadness he left in his wake, for the family and friends who loved him.

Having watched Rick Warren for years, though, I’ll be waiting to see just when he begins trying to bend scripture to justify suicide and make it acceptable in the eyes of God. Truth appears to be a malleable thing based upon personal circumstance for Mr. Warren. I’m not sorry to say that this is utterly wrong, and if he preaches or publishes any such thing he will be leading souls not to salvation but to destruction.


39 posted on 04/06/2013 3:47:32 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Zeneta

Over the last year especially, me too. My wife left one year ago, then I got laid off. I was unable to perform up to my previous level, mostly due to the shock of her leaving, so I got a package. That is now gone, so I am cashing in some RRSPs to live on and pay bills (I think Stateside you call them IRAs). No job interviews yet and losing our house is a distinct possibility at 52 YoA. My former church closed in January. I pray that I do not experience a year like this again, nor would I wish it on anyone else, but I thank the Lord for this past year’s experience.

During this past year, my faith has grown deeply, sinking roots and turning rocky ground into fertile soil. We sometimes think that we have built our foundations on rock, but we can be easily mistaken. It is in the valley where we grow. Many scripture passages refer to the Lord passing us through a refining fire. Is it painful? Of course, trials (fire) are painful but we learn to appreciate the mountain-top only if we experience the valley. Our ‘instant gratification’ society does not understand, nor wish to understand trials. Most leftist/socialist voters (Democrat in US, Liberal & NDP in Canada) flee trials. Unfortunately, Pastor Warren’s son may have had emotion/mental issues and could not understand the ‘beauty’ of trials.

No matter what the challenge, hold on to Jesus! Remember, Peter walking on the Sea of Galilee? When he focused on Jesus, he could walk on the water, yet when he looked away, he sank. (Matthew 14:22-33, Mark 6:45-52, John 6:16-21) Keep your eyes on the Lord and watch Him do amazing things!


40 posted on 04/06/2013 4:08:49 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: napscoordinator

And exactly how do you know that Rick Warren didn’t do that? Are you all knowing that they did nothing to help their son? You are, as usual, just assuming. You know what that makes you, don’t you? An ass!


41 posted on 04/06/2013 4:25:16 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian; Lera
Canadian, what in Lera's post where she opines that Warren's preaching goes against the Gospel (I agree, having read "Purpose Driven Life" and having been disgusted with Warren's role in Obama/McCain electioneering and enabling politicians that promote amoral government to shackle Christian morality, and a few other things), could remotely be construed as "gossip"? Not an admonition, merely a question.

Lera, good post. Gutsy and true. I find myself compelled to pray for the soul of the young man who committed suicide, not for his dad, who presumably has spiritual resources within and around him to suffice -- he's a pastor of a huge church, for crying out loud! His son seems not to have had those spiritual resources of strength, the poor soul. May God find and comfort him, and any and all who contemplate suicide, and may Jesus take their hand and love them, save them at the last moment before their dying breath. Jesus is the one who saves.

42 posted on 04/06/2013 4:38:39 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Zeneta; A Formerly Proud Canadian
My faith is the only thing that keeps me alive.

Amen to that.

There's lots of false "answers" out there.

But God's Word and faith and have been the only real answers for me.

Someone on another thread posted this scripture as medicine for the soul...they said it kept them sane in the midst of depression:

Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; — 2 Corinthians 10:5

43 posted on 04/06/2013 4:41:26 PM PDT by what's up
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
Remember, Peter walking on the Sea of Galilee? When he focused on Jesus, he could walk on the water, yet when he looked away, he sank. (Matthew 14:22-33, Mark 6:45-52, John 6:16-21)

Another good scripture to help keep one sane.

44 posted on 04/06/2013 4:42:23 PM PDT by what's up
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Another thread if anyone is interested in the comments thereon:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3004910/posts?


45 posted on 04/06/2013 4:44:30 PM PDT by deport
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Then prove it to me big lady. Where your proof ditzy?


46 posted on 04/06/2013 5:32:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

C’mon, if you know about Pastor Rick “going over to the Dark Side” you probably shouln’t be so hard on a fellow FReeper.


47 posted on 04/06/2013 5:57:04 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

It wasn’t the time or place to make the comment.


48 posted on 04/06/2013 6:59:11 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (ok)
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To: napscoordinator
Then prove it to me big lady. Where your proof ditzy?Here's my proof. This shows you to be an ass again! You just love to criticize others. You should take care of your house before throwing stones at others!

From the link below:

"Unfortunately, he also suffered from mental illness resulting in deep depression and suicidal thoughts. Despite the best health care available, this was an illness that was never fully controlled and the emotional pain resulted in his decision to take his life." and

"Over the years, Matthew Warren had been treated by America's best doctors, had received counseling and medication and been the recipient of numerous prayers from others, his father said.

Still, he struggled over the years.

"I'll never forget how, many years ago, after another approach had failed to give relief, Matthew said `Dad, I know I'm going to heaven. Why can't I just die and end this pain?"' Warren recalled.

Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

49 posted on 04/06/2013 7:04:15 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: deport

Another thread if anyone is interested in the comments thereon: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3004910/posts?

lol! Troublemaker. (I'm assuming you read all those comments.)

50 posted on 04/06/2013 7:42:26 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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