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Gun Industry Dilemma: Should I Stay Or Should I Go Now?
Hart\ford Courant ^ | April 6, 2013 | Dan Haar

Posted on 04/07/2013 4:37:56 AM PDT by Daffynition

At the moment when Gov. Dannel P. Malloy signed into law what might be the nation's strictest gun controls, Jonathan Scalise was on the phone with his accountant.

It's not that Scalise didn't care what Malloy was up to. On the contrary, the sweeping law will affect him about as much as any business owner. His company, Ammunition Storage Components, is one of the largest makers of bullet magazines for semiautomatic weapons — and most of his products are now illegal in the state where his father and grandfather owned machine shops before him.

Now, the family's homegrown tradition is in peril.

(Excerpt) Read more at courant.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; secondamendment
The rubber is hitting the road.

**Still, Connecticut has enacted a sales ban in just over three months that might not decrease firepower available to people intent on killing, and may or may not save a life; that's the crucial, debatable point, and the manufacturers are on the side that says the law won't increase safety.

What's not debatable is this: There will be economic fallout from the gun control law, period.**

1 posted on 04/07/2013 4:37:56 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

If they were honest, CT would ban military submarine manufacturing in the state. Too dangerous.


2 posted on 04/07/2013 5:03:40 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Oh, boy. I am so stealing that.


3 posted on 04/07/2013 5:05:55 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Oh, they’ll probably get around to it eventually. That, and the sub-base as well. Then we’ll be left with the Coasties protecting us and plastic sporks.


4 posted on 04/07/2013 5:06:15 AM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

Mr. Alinsky would be proud, very proud indeed, of
Connecticut’s legislature.

IMHO


5 posted on 04/07/2013 5:09:13 AM PDT by ripley
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To: ripley

The pols have made end-runs around the legislative process [they used to call it law]....once the dust settles, I’m hoping there will be challenges.


6 posted on 04/07/2013 5:15:45 AM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

There may be challenges but it won’t go anywhere. The traitorous repukelicans in this state, with their “bipartisan support”, have guaranteed the law will stand. No judge has ever overruled bipartisan support that constrains freedoms and liberty.


7 posted on 04/07/2013 5:23:42 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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To: Daffynition
If you treasure freedom. If you have an aiding reverence to the Constitution, it is worse than can be imagined. When individuals are willing and do sell their birthright and God given freedom for a bowl of Government stew, [freebies and “security”].When entire States do the same CO, CT catastrophe for freedom lovers. Why? Because the same parasites and leeches that sucked freedom's blood from these States will merly move to other host States where those State's enjoy a wide scope of freedom. They wil congerate in areas until they become majorities,Spread their poisons, do their deadly work and move to another host. Areas of Florida, particularly south Florida have expeiienced this.Idaho, Arizona , and the larger cities of Texas are and have experienced this. They appear to have done completed their work in Colorado.
8 posted on 04/07/2013 5:29:42 AM PDT by sport
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To: Daffynition

“Should I stay or should I go...”The Clash 1982

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMaE6toi4mk


9 posted on 04/07/2013 5:31:59 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Daffynition

“The so-called Black Rifle is responsible for just a minuscule fraction of the 30,000 U.S. gun deaths a year, way less than its share compared with handguns.”

Where did 30,000 come from? 12,000 gun homicides per year in the US usually seems to be the actual number - but even that number includes 6,000 suicides. Maybe the author is thinking of traffic fatalities which is about 35,000 per year? I say, ban automobiles! Ya know, if only one life is saved, it is worth it!


10 posted on 04/07/2013 5:36:00 AM PDT by zagger
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To: zagger

You must remember that facts, logic, reason and common sense (ONE WORD!) have no place in their chain of thought. Making up numbers works great for them because a lot of folks buy it hook, line and sinker. No need to check because our pols would NEVER lie to us.

Should you stay? NO! Should you go? YES! They would love to have you stay so they can suck up the taxes. Ruger and Colt and any other manufacturer need to pack up and go too! History, shmistory. The state is making folks in to law abiding victims. And in some cases, law abiding felons. Bi-partison my ass! Would it have mattered if the reps had (God forbid) taken a stand? NOPE! Way to go knucklers. (As in knuckling under)


11 posted on 04/07/2013 6:02:55 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Daffynition

Heard an interesting point on the radio. It was a discussion point about states rights being exercised to enact restrictive gun laws. The discussion went on to point out that Conservatives should be overjoyed tat the states were exercising their 10th Amendment rights.

After thinking about it, it was, as most LIB talking points, a false argument. The states are NOT exercising their 10th Amendment rights, as 2nd Amendment infringement is neither an enumerated power nor a power reserved to the state. And that is why the “laws” are doomed to fail.


12 posted on 04/07/2013 6:17:31 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Daffynition

MOVE. It’s 1860.


13 posted on 04/07/2013 6:27:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: zagger

How many of those automobile accidents were the result of alcohol consumption? You are way more likely to be killed by a drunk driver than by a random gunman. But all the boozehounds on both sides of the gun debate want their booze.


14 posted on 04/07/2013 6:35:02 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Daffynition

The government of Connecticut has made it very clear they don’t want you or your products. In fact, I bet there are members of the Legislature who are so bats-in-the-belfry pro gun control that they would be happy to see you in jail.
The message is clear; it’s time to leave.


15 posted on 04/07/2013 6:40:58 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

I’m sure the manufacturers are not exaggerating about the offers they have to migrate.


16 posted on 04/07/2013 6:48:01 AM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: zagger
Doctors kill 2,450% more Americans than all gun-related deaths combined
17 posted on 04/07/2013 6:51:05 AM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

It really isn’t such a heart wrenching choice....the owner just loves living in CT...blah blah blah.....well, he’d better open up an effing Starbucks if he wants to stay there, then.

I’ll not buy any more ASC stuff (don’t think I have, but damned sure know now I never will) unless this good times manufacturer doesn’t put his money where his business should be.. MOVE! Move out of that state. Looks like from the pictures you’re using illegals to do the assembly anyways...you can find them all over this country.


18 posted on 04/07/2013 7:08:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Daffynition

We should let them know that we will no longer support any weapons company which would benefit the economy of Connecticut, New York, Colorado or California. If they want us to buy their products, they can move.


19 posted on 04/07/2013 7:13:15 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Daffynition

I live in CT and own a software consulting business, not a firearms business.

However, on the day that Governor Bag-O-Ballots signed that bill, I printed, filled out, and mailed in my company’s Articles of Dissolution.

I will be reopening the business in Wyoming.


20 posted on 04/07/2013 7:14:48 AM PDT by ct_libertarian (W.W.J.G.D? What would John Galt do?)
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To: nonliberal

It’s well-known...but it wouldn’t hurt to write.


21 posted on 04/07/2013 7:15:18 AM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

Move down here to Alabama. We will welcome them with open arms. Our state senate just put through a new bill that will allow OPEN carry of weapons. I would love to have the gun makers move from the commie north down here to a place where we could build and USE them. Come on down.


22 posted on 04/07/2013 7:15:42 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: ct_libertarian

Good. I don’t blame you.


23 posted on 04/07/2013 7:16:42 AM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: tuffydoodle

Good point about alcohol caused deaths. Bring back Prohibition. If it saves one life, it will be worth it.


24 posted on 04/07/2013 7:48:12 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Daffynition

So now I have to drive to NH or VT to buy magazines?


25 posted on 04/07/2013 7:49:52 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

Yeppers. We go on booze, cigs, fireworks, hardware store stuff, gas fill-up to NH every 4-5 weeks..adding ammo to the shopping list. I think you’re closer than me...you must be under an hour.


26 posted on 04/07/2013 8:03:13 AM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

Sure, gun owners will avoid buying from companies with factories in commie states. But conservatives, in general, will avoid business and tourism in the commie states as well.
Even if conservatives are a minority in the US as a whole, the trend towards self selection, with conservatives concentrating in red states is an important development in resistance to tyranny.
Furthermore, conservatives need to make the red states less attractive to the migrating Leftist locusts that relocate to red states for tax and job reasons. This could be accomplished by enacting strong pro-2A laws, pro-life and pro-marriage laws, as well as prosecution of welfare cheats and tough standards to qualify for welfare.


27 posted on 04/07/2013 10:28:14 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: Daffynition

Just about once I get to I-91N. The disease that has infected Connecticut is so sad. It was once a great state; now it’s a socialist dump


28 posted on 04/07/2013 1:26:41 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Puppage
Oh, boy. I am so stealing that.

Please do, and use it well!

29 posted on 04/07/2013 5:55:40 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Daffynition
Colt (commercial and defense), Ruger, Stag Arms, Widley Arms, U.S. Firearms, O.F. Mossberg & Sons, Charter Arms, Atlantic Firearms, and others need to leave CT as fast as possible.

The gun manufacturers should make it very public they are moving out of CT and WHY they are moving. The gun manufacturers should also make it known that: (1) all of the salaries they used to pay highly skilled, and now unemployed workers, plus (2) the taxes those former employees used to pay (as well as their former employer's taxes) will no longer be paid to CT greedy politicians.

30 posted on 04/07/2013 7:27:40 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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