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Ammunition Manufacturers Producing '24 Hours a Day' to Match Demand
breitbart.com/Big-Government ^ | 4-8-2013 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 04/08/2013 8:39:36 AM PDT by servo1969

Amid the myriad questions and theories behind the ammunition shortage currently being experienced across the country, manufacturers have gone on the record to say they are producing as much as they can and are working to produce even more.

Hornady ammunition, makers of some of the most popular self-defense ammo for concealed carry applications, explained it this way: "We are producing as much as we can, much more than last year, which was a lot more than the year before, etc. No one wants to ship more during this time than we do."

The demand for Hornady's ammo is so great that they've "added presses, lathes, CNC equipment, [and] people and space." They are producing many popular items "24 hours a day" and "several hundred employees work overtime every week" to make as much ammo as possible.

Black Hills Ammunition president Jeff Hoffman is seeing the same demand Hornady is experiencing. He says the only ammo that isn't absolutely flying out the door are some of the rarer, larger caliber hunting rounds.

Supplies of 9mm, 45 acp, 40 S&W, and .223 are scarce in the marketplace, and where they can be found, they are being snatched up by desperate consumers as they are unloaded off trucks at stores like Wal-Mart & Gander Mountain.

So why the shortage? Ammo producers like Hornady say the cause isn't government orders but a "politically-induced buying panic." Although producers say they've seen buying panics in the past, nothing compares to what we're experiencing now.

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1 posted on 04/08/2013 8:39:36 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Now all Obama’s EPA has to do is limit and restriction the raw materials needed for ammo production.


2 posted on 04/08/2013 8:42:07 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: servo1969
Ammo producers like Hornady say the cause isn't government orders but a "politically-induced buying panic."

This has been pretty obvious for a while, not certain why people have such trouble accepting this simple explanation. It's self-stustaining with a positive feedback loop - panic buying causes shortages, the reports of which cause more panic buying.

3 posted on 04/08/2013 8:42:53 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Wait till there is a dollar melt down and the food disappears from the supermarket shelves in a buying panic. The ammo shortfall will look like child’s play when they get that one going.


4 posted on 04/08/2013 8:44:24 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Strategerist

Look, the shelves are empty.

I better buy all they have when they restock.

.... :)


5 posted on 04/08/2013 8:46:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mouton

Yeah, what if this wasn’t ammo, but food... or gasoline...


6 posted on 04/08/2013 8:46:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: servo1969

Went into Academy last night looking for .22LR shells. Guy who worked there said the shelves were cleaned out that morning. They had just restocked.


7 posted on 04/08/2013 8:48:26 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: MrB

“Yeah, what if this wasn’t ammo, but food... or gasoline”

if it goes to food or gas thats when you’ll need your ammo


8 posted on 04/08/2013 8:49:05 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: servo1969
Next year about this time there will be lots of cheap ammo.
9 posted on 04/08/2013 8:49:24 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: WLR

Ping to Ammonews


10 posted on 04/08/2013 8:49:34 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: servo1969

The reason for the ammo shortage is the average US citizen is terrified of the United States feral government because the United States feral government has jettisoned the rule-of-law.


11 posted on 04/08/2013 8:52:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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12 posted on 04/08/2013 8:53:46 AM PDT by onyx
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To: George from New England
Now all Obama’s EPA has to do is limit and restriction the raw materials needed for ammo production.

You've got that right, George from New England, and I believe it's only reasonable to expect the so-called "consumer protection" bureaucrats to launch new assaults against lead bullets.

13 posted on 04/08/2013 8:54:39 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You definition of ‘cheap’ may not be mine. (Just saying...)


14 posted on 04/08/2013 8:55:28 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Back to the prices of a year or two ago.


15 posted on 04/08/2013 8:56:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: servo1969
It's easing up a little but prices aren't going to go down anytime soon. I used to complain that shooting a .45 was like throwing a quarter downrange every time I pulled the trigger. I used to complain about buck-a-gallon gasoline, too.

What I can't figure out is the panic on .22 LR ammo. It isn't as if anyone is threatening to make that stuff harder to get (yet). It's almost as if...naw, couldn't be...it's almost as if people are making a political statement by purchasing it...

16 posted on 04/08/2013 8:56:26 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

The .22 rifle is the most “utility” of firearms.

I think it’s the “preppers” that are lining their basement walls with .22lr bricks in anticipation of the imminent crash.


17 posted on 04/08/2013 8:59:01 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: servo1969
At some point the law of supply and demand will kick in. The question is when do we get to that equilibrium?

Right now .308 is available, but I'll be darned if I'm going to pay $2+ per round. At that price they can keep it. I have enough of a stash to hold me until this craziness winds down.

My guess is that this starts to get straightened out in 2014 if Republicans advance on the House and maybe pick up the Senate. Then Obama is a total lame duck. (But truth be told, I don't trust Republicans either.)

18 posted on 04/08/2013 8:59:42 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: Billthedrill
What I can't figure out is the panic on .22 LR ammo.

Most affordable ammo is the most likely to be bought up on a scare that ammo may be difficult or more expensive to get in the future.

I'll buy thousands of rounds of 22 while only buying hundreds of some of the others I use.

19 posted on 04/08/2013 9:00:24 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: servo1969
The demand for Hornady's ammo is so great that they've "added presses, lathes, CNC equipment, [and] people and space." They are producing many popular items "24 hours a day" and "several hundred employees work overtime every week" to make as much ammo as possible.

I hope the manufacturers are hedging their bets. This is a buying bubble. If the manufacturers go out on a limb and get loans to purchase additional equipment and materials, they are going to be in trouble once the excess demand craters.

I recall reading a case in school where Sears Roebuck ordered large quantities of tools from Craftsman and Craftsman went out and made commitments for space, equipment and personnel to fill the orders.
The following year Sears didn't buy any products, Craftsman went bankrupt, and Sears bought the company and the patents at a bargain price.

20 posted on 04/08/2013 9:03:51 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
22 lr box of 500 used to run about 20-25 bucks. If you can find them now, they'll be in the 100 dollar range for 500.

I have been paying a co worker to reload my 38 specials. Better than buying new.

21 posted on 04/08/2013 9:05:52 AM PDT by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: Standing Wolf

For the third time in the last 20 months, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has denied a petition from the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) to ban lead in sporting equipment. On April 9, EPA notified CBD and a coalition of more than 100 other organizations that it has rejected their March 13 petition seeking “a complete ban on bullets and shot containing lead for use in hunting and shooting sports.” http://www.nrahuntersrights.org/Article.aspx?id=6400

Third time...it means they are trying real hard...


22 posted on 04/08/2013 9:05:55 AM PDT by EBH
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To: Obadiah
Right now .308 is available, but I'll be darned if I'm going to pay $2+ per round. At that price they can keep it. I have enough of a stash to hold me until this craziness winds down.

Exactly. Would be nice to connect with those paying $2/round so I could quintuple my investment!

23 posted on 04/08/2013 9:07:09 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Strategerist

Not just that, gougers are guying up all the stock and selling at huge markups on armslist, gunbroker, gun shows, and even some retailers. See CTD for example.


24 posted on 04/08/2013 9:09:31 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: servo1969

So where is all the .22LR and .380? Is it that those are not being manufactured so that producers can focus on other calibers or are those being bought up as soon as they are made? I find it hard to believe the government is buying .22Lr and .380.


25 posted on 04/08/2013 9:09:45 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yep. But your local gouger will have plenty. Not a coincidence.


26 posted on 04/08/2013 9:10:53 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: servo1969
Ammo producers like Hornady say the cause isn't government orders but a "politically-induced buying panic."

When the ammo bubble pops, and it will, it's going to be really loud...

27 posted on 04/08/2013 9:11:06 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: servo1969

According to some industry sources the industry expects that ammo shortages will ease in 5 to 9 months but in the future the base demand will be higher than in the past due to the influx of “large numbers of new gun owners”.

There have been a lot of numbers thown out on the number of new gun owners but I think a lot of them are way low. It might be a 50% increase over the last four years and I have many friends who have turned into gun owners in the last 4 years, many of them being the type that in the past would never own a gun.


28 posted on 04/08/2013 9:12:12 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: EBH
Third time...it means they are trying real hard...

As far as I know the EPA's hands are tied in regards to lead in ammo. That's the ONE thing that congress forbade that the EPA can do anything about.

29 posted on 04/08/2013 9:14:14 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: muir_redwoods
So where is all the .22LR and .380? Is it that those are not being manufactured so that producers can focus on other calibers or are those being bought up as soon as they are made? I find it hard to believe the government is buying .22Lr and .380.

Could be. I once read that .380 was a "seasaonal" round as the same equipment made other rounds of that caliber (.38, etc)

30 posted on 04/08/2013 9:16:00 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Next year about this time there will be lots of cheap ammo.

That or none. You are most likely correct, but . . . if you're wrong the hoarders will have made a good decision.

31 posted on 04/08/2013 9:16:31 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success.)
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To: muir_redwoods
No, both are still being produced and sold - I have purchased 22LR at WalMart in the past few weeks, and seen .380 there as well. The problem is that it just gets snapped up as soon as it hits the shelves. I have had good luck with .22; some folks report they never see it around.

And to their credit WalMart has not jacked up the price on .22, or at least had not a couple weeks ago.

32 posted on 04/08/2013 9:18:38 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: servo1969

I received an almost priceless gift from a friend yesterday. Two boxes of .38.


33 posted on 04/08/2013 9:19:32 AM PDT by cyclotic (In a society of wolves, you do not fight back by creating more sheep-Dan Bongino)
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To: MrB

You are right.

The only reason there is bread on the shelves every time you go to the store is because there is bread on the shelves every time you go to the store.

As soon as the supply is disrupted people will buy as much as they can when they can.


34 posted on 04/08/2013 9:20:59 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Billthedrill

The shooting sports director of a Christian Camp I work with is very worried. They go through about 40,000 .22 longs every summer. He can’t get them.


35 posted on 04/08/2013 9:23:01 AM PDT by cyclotic (In a society of wolves, you do not fight back by creating more sheep-Dan Bongino)
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To: IMR 4350
Your screen-name ....

I wish I could get some ...

Or failing that, some IMR 4895 ...

36 posted on 04/08/2013 9:24:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: servo1969

If you have enough to keep in practice until this November, with a bit of margin, you should relax and avoid these panic induced price increases.


37 posted on 04/08/2013 9:29:03 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Next year about this time there will be lots of cheap ammo.


Probably.

I have enough for my SKS and shotgun to hold me over for a while. I’m looking to get a ruger 10/22 and will need some ammo for that, but not a lot right away.

But eventually people will just have all they need and the demand should slow down pretty fast. That’s when I’ll buy.


38 posted on 04/08/2013 9:30:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s what I’m thinking


39 posted on 04/08/2013 9:30:50 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Billthedrill

I can’t figure out why there’s no .38/.44spl anywhere.


40 posted on 04/08/2013 9:32:23 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: demshateGod

The price for ammunition at the local ranges is exorbitant, but they are the only one’s with any. It’s a good deal for them...they sell firearms and then if you want to use them, they’ve got the ammo. They discourage using home-made, but as long as you don’t rent a weapon from them, they can’t really do anything about it.


41 posted on 04/08/2013 9:35:48 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: VeniVidiVici
"I once read that .380 was a "seasonal" round..."

Same with .30-40 Krag. Even in a normal year, it was mostly out of stock except for a few months around deer season.

Of course things would have to be pretty bad to be forced to break out the Krag.

42 posted on 04/08/2013 9:36:16 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: George from New England
Now all Obama’s EPA has to do is limit and restriction the raw materials needed for ammo production.

Or restrict shipments across state lines or any one of a dozen other coups they can attempt.

43 posted on 04/08/2013 9:38:36 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ArrogantBustard

Popular powder supplies have always been up and down, but there has been a whole lot of people taking up handloading.

A friend of mine that wants to take up handloading is working in Oregon. He said the west coast has a better supply of everything than what he’s seen here in Texas.


44 posted on 04/08/2013 9:41:26 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: George from New England

went into WalMart yesterday. Shelves are bare except for 5 boxes of 410 and 3 boxes of 20ga bird shot.


45 posted on 04/08/2013 9:42:08 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: servo1969

46 posted on 04/08/2013 9:43:28 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: V_TWIN

Long term storage of gasoline (and to a lesser extent, food) is more problematic.


47 posted on 04/08/2013 9:44:04 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: stuartcr

.38spl and .44spl is cheaper to used for practice than .357mag and .44mag.


48 posted on 04/08/2013 9:44:27 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: V_TWIN

“if it goes to food or gas thats when you’ll need your ammo”

very true


49 posted on 04/08/2013 9:45:04 AM PDT by panaxanax (They can have my guns when I run out of ammo.)
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To: servo1969

The title should be reworded to say “..Manufacturers Producing ‘24 Hours a Day’ to ..Supply the Same Small Handful of Guys Who Show Up Every Tuesday Morning at Walmart and Just Happen to All Have Resale Accounts On Ebay And Other Online Shopping Websites.” There...fixed it.


50 posted on 04/08/2013 9:45:41 AM PDT by MachIV
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