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NSA data center front and center in debate over liberty, security and privacy
FoxNews.com
 ^ | April 12, 2013 | Catherine Herridge

Posted on 04/14/2013 10:38:45 AM PDT by null and void

The Utah Data Center is a facility for the intelligence community that will have a major focus on cyber security.

Asked if the Data Center would hold the data of American citizens,  Alexander said, "No...we don't hold data on U.S. citizens," adding that the NSA staff "take protecting your civil liberties and privacy as the most important thing that they do, "

Thomas Drake who worked at the NSA says Americans should be concerned about letting the government go too far in the name of security.

The only way you can have perfect security is have a perfect surveillance state. That's George Orwell. That's 1984. That's what that would look like."

"It's really a-- turnkey situation, where it could be turned quickly and become a totalitarian state pretty quickly," he said. "The capacities to do that is being set up. Now it's a question of if we get the wrong person in office, or if certain people set up their network internally in government, they could make that happen quickly."

Because the Utah Data Center is a "secure facility" and you cannot go inside without the needed security clearances, Fox News rented a helicopter and took to the skies, where the depth and breadth of the Utah Center were stunning.

Two weeks after our filming, the helicopter pilot reported to our Fox News team that he had been visited by the FBI on a "national security matter."

The pilot said, according to the FBI agents, that the NSA had taken photos of the helicopter once it made several flyovers.  These photos allowed the NSA to identify the make and manufacturer of the helicopter in California who, in turn, told the NSA who operates it in the Salt Lake City area.

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1 posted on 04/14/2013 10:38:45 AM PDT by null and void
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To: COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; opentalk; ..
Nano Black Helicopters

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

2 posted on 04/14/2013 10:39:52 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: null and void

A DC was installed in UK to get around Constitutional rights of monitoring data and voice communications so this is just in your face stuff. It already exists.


3 posted on 04/14/2013 10:45:16 AM PDT by edcoil (If the man was accused of leadership, there would not be enough evidence to convict him.)
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To: null and void

“the NSA staff “take protecting your civil liberties and privacy as the most important thing that they do, “

LOL


4 posted on 04/14/2013 10:49:39 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

Can they even keep a straight face while saying that??


5 posted on 04/14/2013 10:57:25 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: null and void
The FBI wanted to know if we had the proper air space clearances to flyover the site, which the Fox News team did.

So the NSA sent the FBI or did the FBI inform the NSA what they were going to do? Guess it doesn't matter 'cause we're supposed to just shut up and eat our peas. Yeah, they're really concerned about our privacy. Will watch tonight. Thanks null and void.

6 posted on 04/14/2013 11:14:39 AM PDT by azishot
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To: null and void

“Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!”

Would you call the present police state we live a “Nut-job Conspiracy Theory”?


7 posted on 04/14/2013 11:16:35 AM PDT by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Travis McGee; neverdem

Ping


8 posted on 04/14/2013 11:26:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: max americana

9 posted on 04/14/2013 11:55:52 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: azishot

It was a given that the spooks would have every last bit of info on the helicopter, pilot and passengers down to when they last clipped their toe nails. The thing here is they made the extra step in knocking on doors to scare people.


10 posted on 04/14/2013 12:07:08 PM PDT by bgill
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To: dljordan; stuck_in_new_orleans
Would you call the present police state we live a “Nut-job Conspiracy Theory”?

Nope. Far from it.

The name of the ping list dates back to:

Don’t ping me with your nutjob conspiracy theories or I’ll report you to the admin.

68 posted on Mon Mar 5 00:16:27 2012 by stuck_in_new_orleans
As such it is similar to a theory of cosmic origin scornfully being named by a detractor as the so-called "The Big Bang Theory".

We wear the nut-job monicker as something of a badge of honor, and a poke in the eye to the willfully obtuse.

not saying stuck_in_new_orleans is one of them, but he/she has the distinction of providing the name...

11 posted on 04/14/2013 12:17:43 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: null and void

Please add me to the ping list, thanks!


12 posted on 04/14/2013 12:31:11 PM PDT by RobO1125 (Freedom:Socialism::Oil:Water)
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To: null and void

You call spying on EVERYBODY’S email, phone conversations, texts, credit card transactions, plane ticket purchases, cell phone movements, bank transactions, foreign travel, and even lemonade stand transactions a conspiracy?

DO YOU REALLY TRUST THIS GOVERNMENT? REALLY?

I’d like to sell you some beach front real estate in Arizona.


13 posted on 04/14/2013 12:33:15 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: null and void

You call spying on EVERYBODY’S email, phone conversations, texts, credit card transactions, plane ticket purchases, cell phone movements, bank transactions, foreign travel, and even lemonade stand transactions a conspiracy?

DO YOU REALLY TRUST THIS GOVERNMENT? REALLY?

I’d like to sell you some beach front real estate in Arizona.


14 posted on 04/14/2013 12:34:20 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: null and void

“We wear the nut-job monicker as something of a badge of honor, and a poke in the eye to the willfully obtuse.”

Ah, I guess that puts me well into the Nutjob camp then. Sorry for being so obtuse. :)


15 posted on 04/14/2013 1:05:33 PM PDT by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: dljordan
Ah, I guess that puts me well into the Nutjob camp then.

Just bear in mind that if you wish to be added to the NJCT Ping list, you have to threaten to report him to the mods if you're not added.

Thanks for the Ping, Nully.

16 posted on 04/14/2013 1:28:40 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (No more usurpers.)
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To: RobO1125
Please add me to the ping list, thanks!

No.

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

17 posted on 04/14/2013 1:28:45 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: null and void

Oops. See #16 for domo.


18 posted on 04/14/2013 1:30:06 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (No more usurpers.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; unixfox

Yes. It’s not immediately obvious, is it?

unixfox should catch up any minute now...


19 posted on 04/14/2013 1:36:40 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: unixfox
You call spying on EVERYBODY’S email, phone conversations, texts, credit card transactions, plane ticket purchases, cell phone movements, bank transactions, foreign travel, and even lemonade stand transactions a conspiracy?

DO YOU REALLY TRUST THIS GOVERNMENT? REALLY?


No. You probably ought to threaten to report Nully to the mod so you can get on a ping list with like-minded FReepers.

20 posted on 04/14/2013 1:41:59 PM PDT by OwenKellogg
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