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North Korea rejects South Korea's calls for talks
Fox News ^ | 04/14/13 | Fox News

Posted on 04/14/2013 12:11:31 PM PDT by mulder1

North Korea rejects South Korea calls for talks

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North Korea on Sunday rebuffed a South Korean proposal to resolve rising tensions through dialogue, dismissing it as a "crafty trick" by its rival. Tensions have been high on the Korean Peninsula for weeks, with Pyongyang threatening to attack Seoul and Washington for conducting joint military drills and for supporting U.N. sanctions imposed on North Korea for a February nuclear test. While the threats are largely seen as rhetoric, U.S. and South Korean officials have said they believe North Korea may test-fire a mid-range missile designed to reach the U.S. territory of Guam.
1 posted on 04/14/2013 12:11:31 PM PDT by mulder1
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To: mulder1

S. Korea should show what a “crafty trick” it would be to destroy the thousands of artillery pieces the NORKs have pointed at Seoul. Threaten war? Reject “talks?” No problem! [Boom!] No guns.


2 posted on 04/14/2013 12:15:14 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: mulder1

3 posted on 04/14/2013 12:16:50 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: mulder1

Obviously! S. Korea does not have excess food supplies to give to N.Korea. This is a repeat of the same movie again and again. N.Korea mis-behaves, US comes through with free aid. Who says blackmail does not work? It works with the dumb.


4 posted on 04/14/2013 12:18:09 PM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: mulder1

Kim is past the point of no return. H must act and carry through his threat or risk the greatest shame ever.


5 posted on 04/14/2013 12:19:23 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: mulder1

it’s possible that the latest Kim is either so inbred or so indoctrinated that he actually believes the crap his wretched family has been peddling for three generations.


6 posted on 04/14/2013 12:21:12 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: mulder1

Keep your eyes on the Chinese.


7 posted on 04/14/2013 12:25:36 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mulder1

I think the nations are no longer going to deal with N.Korea’s blackmailing any longer. Kim and his rookies will have to do something ....and that something may very well be their end.


8 posted on 04/14/2013 12:25:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: mulder1

NK wants our money in exchange for a false promise.

Sound familiar?


9 posted on 04/14/2013 12:28:16 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: entropy12

S. Korea would not be the only nation sending in food if this goes down...they’ll be a mass entry of food from the International community...and very likely on standby currently.

This is not going to be a case of blackmailing succeeding this time around....not without a change in N.Korea’s leadership.

I think we’ll eventually see Kim ushered out of there....the Chinese taking over...but pretty much on the hush in order not to rile the cult followers.


10 posted on 04/14/2013 12:30:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: ClearCase_guy

11 posted on 04/14/2013 12:32:47 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: mulder1

12 posted on 04/14/2013 12:36:49 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: caww
I think we’ll eventually see Kim ushered out of there....the Chinese taking over...but pretty much on the hush in order not to rile the cult followers.

Not sure why you believe that. Thus far this Kim has done nothing that wasn't done before and his predecessors were not ushered out of there. I think what you say could happen if he goes too far but thus far he hasn't made that move yet.

13 posted on 04/14/2013 12:38:55 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: South40

Where did you find that?


14 posted on 04/14/2013 12:40:44 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

It’s likely Kim isn’t in charge, but is obeying a clique of corrupt generals who don’t want to lose their control over Korea’s economy (what there is of it) if the society opens up.


15 posted on 04/14/2013 12:43:24 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: mulder1
Well ain't that precious

One is in a State of War
Held at Bay by an Armistice
Your Enemy Ends the Armistice
Saber rattling, openly threatening a nuclear first strike

What are we to do?


16 posted on 04/14/2013 12:43:38 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: CondorFlight

No one gives up power easily.


17 posted on 04/14/2013 12:47:32 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

I found it the other day while searching for something else and remembered it was in my cache.


18 posted on 04/14/2013 12:50:27 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: mulder1

They never wanted to “talk”, they just wanted to thump their chest.


19 posted on 04/14/2013 12:55:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: South40

Classic.


20 posted on 04/14/2013 1:02:15 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: mulder1

This is bad.

This is real bad.

N Korea has just defriended S Korea on Facebook


21 posted on 04/14/2013 1:19:12 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: mulder1

Good for South Korea.


22 posted on 04/14/2013 1:19:37 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

That would put China in an awkward position. The Middle Kingdom hates to lose face, and would have to intervene in earnest. Better to have the Norks prove they’re not bluffing and give Seoul a bona fide casus beli, cross the border or something like that. Then China will be mad at the Norks over the face thing, and give only grudging help as required by their stupid pact, and a quiet green light to Seoul and Washington to smash all their guns.


23 posted on 04/14/2013 1:22:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: mulder1

How many people are going to die for an “ally” that is comprised largely of people who hate us and have no qualms about telling us they hate us to their faces?

If the Norks want the Sorks, I say we hand them over.


24 posted on 04/14/2013 1:26:56 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

Norks and Sorks? I guess any Korean in the Demilitarized Zone is a Dork.


25 posted on 04/14/2013 1:34:30 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Eleutheria5

The problem with that is, as far as South Korea is concerned, a lot of people would be killed by the time they had the ability to stop it. Seoul is, what, 30 miles from the DMZ? There is no margin for error.

Seoul is target #1 for the NORKS.


26 posted on 04/14/2013 1:38:07 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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27 posted on 04/14/2013 1:57:42 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: blueunicorn6

>>Keep your eyes on the Chinese.

I suspect a certain resident of Yorba Linda would be nodding in agreement...

 

 

28 posted on 04/14/2013 2:08:15 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Cyber Liberty

A lot more people will be killed if China comes in heavy on N Korea’s side like they did last time, and entirely too many of them Americans. A lot of people will be killed regardless. It’s war.

From China’s point of view, the Korean peninsula is nothing but a pain in the ass. If the North half of it becomes an even bigger pain than it already is, it will manipulate its considerable weight to see that it’s unified under the government in South Korea, and sign a new pact with them, on condition that they refrain from being a pain in the ass in the future.

If South Korea annoys it more, however, it will unify the Peninsula under North Korean government. Americans who are in harm’s way will be mauled and destroyed as a result, but if there’s war, there will be no future uneasy truces. 55+ years of that is enough for Middle Kingdom’s limited patience. They want an end, so they can go back to pretending they’re still communists, cracking down on Falon Gong practitioners, oppressing Tibetans, and all that Middle Kingom-y type stuff thet thar.

The object, then, isn’t to spare the poor people of South Korea, who will have to bleed and suffer regardless, but to maximize North Korea’s disfavor with China. That way American lives will be saved, and in the long run, North and South Korean small folk will live free and prosper as well. This is geopolitics. It’s not pretty, but it’s inescapable.


29 posted on 04/14/2013 2:14:06 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
From China’s point of view, the Korean peninsula is nothing but a pain in the ass.

What coinky dink! I think it's a PIA, too! And I also pretty much agree with the rest of what you said, except I think you overestimate the NORK's abilities. If the North decides to reunify "on their terms" (IE, conquer the South), they will be wiped out as a military force. And I don't think it's up to China to decide. They might be willing to go to war over Taiwan, but I highly doubt they would again for the NORKS. They don't consider them to be Chinese.

And it would be bad for business.

30 posted on 04/14/2013 2:29:19 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

That’s exactly what I’m hoping, that they don’t care about the Norks. They’ll pretend to go to war for the Norks, but really just do the bare minimum and laugh behind their hands as America’s still formidable armed forces cut them to bits and somehow China can’t manage to make it all better for little Kimmy. You may have to quietly throw in Taiwan to sweeten it for China. But the less Americans dying, the better.


31 posted on 04/14/2013 2:36:13 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: mulder1
So our leaders won't get to capture North Korea's leaders and have them publicly denounce the One China policy? Maybe the false offer of getting rid of our anti-missile defense weapons will fool those tiny brains.


32 posted on 04/14/2013 2:59:16 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: RedMDer

It’s Area 51!!!!


33 posted on 04/14/2013 3:39:35 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: mulder1


34 posted on 04/14/2013 3:43:17 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: EEGator
No one gives up power easily.

Yet Grasping Hold of Power
And Calling it MINE
will Extinguish Joy in Ones Life
I've yet to see an exception to this rule

35 posted on 04/14/2013 3:48:48 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: F15Eagle

ROTFLOL!


36 posted on 04/14/2013 3:51:29 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Eleutheria5
If we had just about anybody but Kim Unng's mental twin in the White Hut I'd feel a lot better about things. Obastard would screw up a wet dream.

China need only be reminded about how well things are going for their economy to keep them from rocking the boat. They're not predisposed these days to love the NORKs. One of the most tightly guarded borders in the world is the one between China and North Korea.

Attempted illegal entry into China there will get you shot.

37 posted on 04/14/2013 5:00:21 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: realcleanguy
Kim is past the point of no return. H must act and carry through his threat or risk the greatest shame ever.

H as in Hussein? Nothing is going to come of this. This is a feint on both sides in which the Norks will demand an economic package, our side will appear to refuse, the Norks will demand it again, and we give it over to them. And little Colonel Barackamar Hussein Obamadaffi gets to look like a strong leader who faced down a rogue regime.

38 posted on 04/14/2013 6:38:03 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: mulder1

Barackamar Hussein Obamadaffi

39 posted on 04/14/2013 6:44:14 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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40 posted on 04/14/2013 6:45:31 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: plain talk
I say that because the nation leaders ..including China...simply don't want to deal with another 60 years of this cat and mouse game with N.Korea.

Up to now “Containment” worked...despite the frustrations. But things have changed for China and S. Korea.....both economy's growing...not to mention technology isn't going to let the people there stay in the dark as before...they are realizing the lie they have lived under the Kim's. Therefore it would be better that China and the S. Koreans work at replacing Kim....then to wait until the people actually rise up and flood all the borders.

Some have said there's enough N.Koreans in the know now to make such a transition...but it still needs to be done on the “hush” while things are set in place.

Who really knows how things will work out...but the “Global World” is not going to want to deal with any rogue type nations....as we have seen occurring these past few years. One by one the leaders are being brought down. I think possible it's now Kim's turn...maybe not..but we'll see in time.

41 posted on 04/14/2013 6:55:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: JoeProBono
Joe, you've always posted such interesting photos of Kim...even when you tweak them. Even so I am very observant of what's in the room and one can determine some of Kim's habits etc. by observing your photos.

An example would be..have you noted they always make sure Un has an ashtray nearby? Even in the field pictures with Military, anything which resembles a desk will have one right there.

Also you can tell allot about any modernization....generally the phones are old style....very old in some instances....and the furniture is outdated. Also the military always have little notepads in hands to give the impression what Un might say should be noted.

My point is even their ability to “stage” a good photo is sooo lacking...they aren't very smart about it.

42 posted on 04/14/2013 7:05:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: mulder1

43 posted on 04/14/2013 7:07:42 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: mulder1
What's to talk about? Kim Jong-un has said he's at war with South Korea and the U.S. Turn Little Kim's slave state into a self-lighting parking lot. It takes less than 30 minutes depending on where your SSBN launches.
44 posted on 04/14/2013 7:13:59 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: caww

45 posted on 04/14/2013 7:31:33 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Cracking me up!!! LoL


46 posted on 04/14/2013 7:52:00 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
the nation leaders ..including China...simply don't want to deal with another 60 years of this cat and mouse game with N.Korea.

Well they have been dealing with for 60 years and I don't see actions that indicate that China has had enough. In fact it sounds like the Chinese are using this to get extractions from Kerry on missile defense. These people don't think like us so it's hard to understand why either NK or China do what they do. :-)

47 posted on 04/14/2013 8:19:09 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

.....”In fact it sounds like the Chinese are using this to get extractions from Kerry on missile defense”.....

Yes, I heard that as well...and may be part of the bargaining going on now for all parties involved because all want something for what they might give in this ordeal. One thing we do know ....the backdoor dealings are heavty this time around.


48 posted on 04/14/2013 8:28:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: entropy12

Hey come on... when we feed their staving suffering citizens, the thugs who run these 3rd world hellholes can funnel extra money to into their weapons programs.

See, it all makes sense.


49 posted on 04/14/2013 8:36:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: mulder1

What concessions will obama and kerry make this time?


50 posted on 04/14/2013 10:55:11 PM PDT by chessplayer
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