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George W Bush: was he really that bad?
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Posted on 04/15/2013 10:49:04 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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1 posted on 04/15/2013 10:49:04 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
George W Bush: was he really that bad?

You betcha.

2 posted on 04/15/2013 10:50:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Compared to what?

Obama? OMIDEARGOD yes~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reagan? no way....not even close


3 posted on 04/15/2013 10:50:39 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Sub-Driver

....and what it’s worth, isn’t much. I’d take W, warts and all. I think with him, you at least know what you’re getting. That said, though, I’m tired of Bushes in public service and I hope Jeb doesn’t run. Same goes for other dynasties, especially one that starts with C and ends with linton.


4 posted on 04/15/2013 10:51:34 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (DoD civilian, retired Army and proud of my service.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I have the same assessment of him as his father.

A mediocre, yet underrated President.

5 posted on 04/15/2013 10:51:46 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Sub-Driver

IBFCM (In Before Fan Club Members!)


6 posted on 04/15/2013 10:52:16 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I would only say, Bush should not be alone in condemnation, but the entire GOP Congress bears as much fault with his failed Presidency....They didn’t have his back the few times he really needed it, i.e. Social Security reform.


7 posted on 04/15/2013 10:54:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sub-Driver

GWB and the GOP controlled Congress spent much more than I was ever comfortable with.....I will agree to all of that. But it was NOTHING compared to what is being spent now. In FY year 2007 the last year the GOP controlled both houses of Congress, our annual budget deficit wwas only $180 billion. Sure wish we could go back to those days, yes I must confess I do miss GWB. And I liked his Supreme Court picks and tax cuts. Only problem with his tax cuts is they were not made permanent.


8 posted on 04/15/2013 10:54:45 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Jim Noble

GWB (and yes even King George III) were saints compared to what we’re stuck with now.


9 posted on 04/15/2013 10:55:55 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
And I liked his Supreme Court picks and tax cuts.

Including Judas Roberts?

10 posted on 04/15/2013 10:56:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sub-Driver

He wasn’t quite as bad as the useless waste of space currently squatting in the WH, but he did leave one big stinking turd: DHS. Can’t put that genie back into the bottle anytime soon, now can we?thanks for giving nobama his own personal internal security force (ie. STASI), dumbass.


11 posted on 04/15/2013 10:56:23 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Sub-Driver
It is George W Bush’s particular achievement to be disliked by both sides in American politics.

To the Left he was too hard on this and that and to the Right he wasn't hard enough (immigration, Islamonazi terrorism, spending controls, investigation of Freddie/Fannie), etc.

12 posted on 04/15/2013 10:56:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Jim Noble

Hahahaha... not as bad as the muslim- marxist in chief Ghazi, Hussein Barack Obama who is doing his best to destroy and marginalize America.


13 posted on 04/15/2013 10:56:53 AM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Sub-Driver

Other than his (and his brother’s) abandoning Terri Schiavo to a slow, horribly painful death in March 2005, I very much approved of almost all of his presidential actions . . . most of them.


14 posted on 04/15/2013 10:57:09 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

W was an AMERICAN!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 04/15/2013 10:57:27 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Sub-Driver

When people ask this, I always respond ‘when the Democrats were elected to control the House and the Senate in 2006, unemployment stood at 4.7%. Do you really believe it was/is GWB who is destroying our economy?’


16 posted on 04/15/2013 10:58:10 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Sub-Driver

At least W appeared to love his country...............thats more than you can say about nowadays.


17 posted on 04/15/2013 10:58:21 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Sub-Driver

They are admire his liberal mistakes.


18 posted on 04/15/2013 10:58:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: dfwgator

Totally PO’d with Roberts.....TOTALLY.....disgusted. But I had no problem with most of his rulings when GWB was in office.


19 posted on 04/15/2013 10:58:42 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: 22202NOVA
I'd take W, warts and all. I think with him, you at least know what you're getting

Hmm. I think among his warts, you must count OBAMA. He and Rove led to that big wart IMO.

20 posted on 04/15/2013 10:59:49 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Sub-Driver

I believe that George W. Bush was an excellent President. When I prayed, I prayed for him without wincing. When I slept, I rested knowing that a man who loves and respects this great nation was at the helm. I thank God for him and for Dick Cheney and fervently wish they were guiding the ship of state today. Did they occasionally get off course? Yes. But I think, overall, George W. Bush and his administration did an admirable job. I am grateful for their understanding of duty and honor and sacrifice.


21 posted on 04/15/2013 10:59:57 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I blame Bush and Rove for setting the stage that allowed 0bama to become president. On the other hand Hitlery probably would have been as bad as 0bama.


22 posted on 04/15/2013 11:00:06 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Jim Noble

I would STILL rather have Bush as President than the despicable Satan defiling the White House now.


23 posted on 04/15/2013 11:03:13 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Sub-Driver
not to mention that fact that he presided over the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression.,

And Obama continues to preside over it. Happily, it seems.

24 posted on 04/15/2013 11:05:13 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes, for a number reasons: deficit spending, expanding the central government, no immigration enforcement, nation-building instead war-winning strategy, and the list goes on. However, no matter how bad Bush was, Obama is far worse in every area.


25 posted on 04/15/2013 11:06:09 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: forgotten man
“On the other hand Hitlery probably would have been as bad as 0bama.”

Absolutely, but for different reasons. I believe that at some level Hillary is more of an American than Obama, and buys in to at least some of what America stands for. However, they are cut from the same narcissistic cloth, and both back socialist/Marxist ideals.

26 posted on 04/15/2013 11:07:17 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s not that he was “That Bad” it was that he(43)(they(41)) could have been MUCH better that he(they) were. I think the thing that PISSES off alot of REAL Conservatives was the ENTIRE Bushes(41/43) Presidencies could be summed up by the phrase “Lost/Missed Opportunities”.


27 posted on 04/15/2013 11:07:19 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Mr. K

I think in determining how good/bad he is we have to consider that he gave us Obama. His policies and failures led to a straw man that the left could beat without the right wanting to defend. In my eyes he is, and always will be, responsible for where we are today.


28 posted on 04/15/2013 11:07:31 AM PDT by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: Sub-Driver
What a cowboy that guy!

Libya, Eqypt, Syria, Gun-Running @ Home & Abroad, Terrorist Attack Cover-up.

And the golf, the vacations, the lobsters, the White House Hollywood parties!

Oh wait! ...

29 posted on 04/15/2013 11:08:00 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: July4

Thank you. Well said


30 posted on 04/15/2013 11:08:43 AM PDT by murrie (Margaret Thatcher. You were one of the best!!!!)
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To: HenryArmitage

That was moslty The Media and Nazi Pelousy constantly harping about “The Failed Bush Administration”

I have yet to hear our side once say “The Failed Obama Administration”


31 posted on 04/15/2013 11:10:45 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: murrie

This is a build up so that when Jeb runs in 2016, there won’t be any stigma left to the Bush name.

Watch for more of the same coming from the MSM

(they trashed Bush, now they have to restore him)


32 posted on 04/15/2013 11:11:26 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Sub-Driver
That bad? He was WORSE. It's said he's a nice guy, but...

No Child Left Behind, the Patriot Act, the creation of the DHS, the limited ROI wars, not pushing on Fannie and Freddie corruption, the bailouts, John Roberts, and on and on...

33 posted on 04/15/2013 11:12:21 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: V_TWIN

True, but that’s a low low low bar for President......


34 posted on 04/15/2013 11:14:13 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Hillary was BORN in IL, who the HELL knows where the Halfrican Bastard was “dropped”!


35 posted on 04/15/2013 11:15:53 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: July4

“More than four years after George W Bush left the White House, his record is being reassessed and throws up similarities with Barack Obama, writes Alex Spillius” NOT EVEN CLOSE, Alex(alias SHITHEAD)!


36 posted on 04/15/2013 11:16:42 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: fatnotlazy

“I would STILL rather have Bush as President than the despicable Satan defiling the White House now.”

Duh.


37 posted on 04/15/2013 11:17:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

well it looks like one our current pres cant get over..............just my 2 cent


38 posted on 04/15/2013 11:17:31 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: murrie

Well, he never tried to crush the second amendment, but creating The Dept of Homeland security is unforgivable.


39 posted on 04/15/2013 11:17:47 AM PDT by GamecockD
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To: 3Fingas; factoryrat
Vote for Us!!

We're not as bad as those awful Democrats.

Voila! The problem with Republican Campaigns. We have evolved from a "no-party" system, to a two-party system, and now a pox-on-both-your-middle-of-the-road-kleptocrat-parties.

40 posted on 04/15/2013 11:18:22 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: Sub-Driver

GWB will be considered the greatest president in my life time... including reagan. GWB dealt with much greater threats, islamifascists and insane muzzies. the wars were necessary and costly due to concerns over political correctness.

i believe he was hoodwinked by the candidates to take the fall for the bailout so the new administration would not be burdened by it...at both parties incistance, he did what he thought best for his country.

i miss him.

t


41 posted on 04/15/2013 11:18:58 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: V_TWIN

True, but the subject at hand is Bush, not the current President.


42 posted on 04/15/2013 11:20:38 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Sub-Driver

Compared to Obama he was a choir boy.


43 posted on 04/15/2013 11:21:11 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Mr. K

Agreed. But there were so many failures without a conservative defense, that the only option for the GOP was to try to pass off McCain as something new. They couldn’t and didn’t run on ‘lets keep this great conservative estabishment going’ . Even if a conservative started using ‘the failed obama administration’ he would have people on the other side falling all over themselves to point to ‘successes’. As a president you can either succeed or stick to party principals. (The great ones do both). If you fail your party, and fail the country you have no where else to go. Id take Sr. and Bill over another bout of W. Maybe I’m still angry and the wound is still too fresh to see this clearly, and I can believe that with time my prospective may change.


44 posted on 04/15/2013 11:21:17 AM PDT by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

My reason:

“his record is being reassessed and throws up similarities with Barack Obama”


45 posted on 04/15/2013 11:21:46 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bush had enough sense to reject the war party’s craving for a war with Iran.


46 posted on 04/15/2013 11:22:51 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Sub-Driver

Bush I begat Clinton.

Bush II begat Obama.

Enough said.


47 posted on 04/15/2013 11:23:09 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: V_TWIN

If you want to give Bush credit for loving the country, go ahead - I think he does - but I think that’s more of a minimalist verification and not something that is credit worthy.


48 posted on 04/15/2013 11:24:10 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think Bush gets a bum rap on a lot of things but with perspective that comes from the passage of time, I more and more see the damage he caused. At the end of the Clinton presidency, the deficit was going down and the population was committed to deficit reduction by cutting spending. Bush completely undermined fiscal Conservatism. Quite frankly, he didn’t believe in it. On economic issues, he wasn’t a conservative or even a moderate — he was a liberal Republican in the mold of his father and Rockefeller. We are now living with that result. The country has made a giant leap toward Socialism. Bush laid the groundwork for it.


49 posted on 04/15/2013 11:24:26 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Sub-Driver
I liked GW a lot at first. He should have never set the Patriot Act into law and established Homeland Security in place because as we see in the wrong hands, it would be a disastrous monster working against our freedoms. I didn't like because Rove would not defend GW’s presidency. I didn't like the insiders letting the left wing radicals of the media lead the message esp. since the party has a strong platform.

He is a good man, he loves his country. Yes, when he crossed to work with the left on the education bill, I was so crushed as well. He is not as unpatriotic as Obama though like all presidents they will do as the shadower of that side tells to do to move us all in a direction of a global community.

I didn't like when he implemented a directive that our military could not use military force on the mosques that were hiding terrorists. I didn't like that our military was using political correctness to prosecute troops who were involved in incidents of war.

Reagan didn't allow the media to make his legacy, GW did so explains why there's this today. Getting in office while allowing your convictions to be guided by a media that hates you anyway is the aftermath legacy. I am thankful he and our troops got Saddam Hussein by doing so, we saved many people's lives and the solders were very brave. Laura Bush seems to love her country.
Laura Bush actually took up women's causes vs. running behind the scene with a radical type agenda.

Hopefully, when if ever, we elect another republican commander in chief, that person will learn from these previous mistakes and do the opposite of allowing your trust of the people to be lost.
It's the same thing most of us know. Be more like Reagan vs this compassionate thing which got us in deep trouble leading to where we have radical Obama. Yes, I'd take GW over Obama. I still would worry about the direction but not like this. I cannot buy into the 9-11 inside scenarios. I am also tired of some on our side as in radio personalities fighting back n forth/making threats as some have good causes tho, all of a sudden go nutty..

50 posted on 04/15/2013 11:25:12 AM PDT by Christie at the beach ( If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.)
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