Skip to comments.Top Dem sees 'train wreck' for Obama health law Co-author of Obama health care law sees 'huge
Posted on 04/17/2013 1:57:13 PM PDT by Nachum
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A senior Democratic senator who helped write President Barack Obama's health care law stunned administration officials Wednesday, saying openly he thinks it's headed for a "train wreck" because of bumbling implementation.
"I just see a huge train wreck coming down," Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., told Obama's health care chief during a routine budget hearing that suddenly turned tense.
Baucus is the first top Democrat to publicly voice fears about the rollout of the new health care law, designed to bring coverage to some 30 million uninsured Americans through a mix of government programs and tax credits for private insurance that start next year. Polls show the public remains confused by the complexity of the law, and even many uninsured people are skeptical that they will be helped.
A six-term Democrat, Baucus expects to face a tough re-election in 2014. He's still trying to recover from approval ratings that nosedived amid displeasure with the health care law in his home state.
Normally low-key and supportive, Baucus challenged Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius at Wednesday's hearing.
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Guess who’s not getting invited to the next meeting.
Sorry pal. No back pedalling at yhis point is going to distance you from this mess. Own it!!
We are witnessing the development of a talking point for Dems in conservative states for the next election. “The law is good but the implementation is “bumbling” and “a train wreck.” It allows them to explain why they voted for this government-expanding, budget-busting monstrosity but should not be held to account for its horrible effects. “You see, its a good idea but it just hasn’t been implemented well.” Republicans can’t take this bait. The whole idea is a “train wreck.” Even if it was implemented efficiently. In fact, if it was implemented efficiently, we would be in a lot worse shape now.
So why were members of the Tea Party and other conservatives accused of racism when they saw the very same thing back in 2009?
Well golly gee, Senator, maybe you shouldn’t have f’n voted for it!! Now you’re up for reelection and your all worried.
It’s not “the implementation” ~ rather it’s the bill itself.
Inferior minds created this mess ~ and the only solution is to rescind it and lock up the writers pending the next turn of the century.
Next, how minor disputes over Exchange billing practices will destroy the federal court system in 6 weeks.
Just remember, though, it’s a liberal idea, so it couldn’t be inherently flawed...
it’s just not being implemented right or by the right people.
Top Dem sees ‘train wreck’ for Obama health law Co-author of Obama health care law sees ‘huge
Hell, even Stevie Wonder could see this “train wreck”. So. When is Baucus going to introduce a bill to OVERTURN this disastrous “train wreck”?
Isn’t this the same excuse with communism?
It’s a great thing. It hasn’t worked because it wasn’t implemented well.
That’s a vote getter statement fo sho!
Dat boy may be worried about his job!
So who do you cross the Voter of the DNC!
Love to seem em start squirmin!
The voter or the DNC ! edit!
The only thing the government is good at is screwing everything up.
The talking points will be that if all the states and all the GOP had just rolled over and embraced the idea, it would be going swell. But so many states refused to create “exchanges”, so many employers found “loopholes” and so many doctors threatened “retirement” that it was all a problem in “implementation”, you see.
I don’t know about any “Obamacare” ... all I know about is “Democrat-care” (aka “Democare”).
Six terms? You should think about retirement, Max.
Where have you been, Max? We’ve been trying to tell you this for two years! just how dense are you?
I hope the people of Montana send you packing.
I never noticed the French signage in that picture. Then I found
Something tells me there were a lot of sacre bleus flying around that day!
Last week, the South Carolina house passed legislation out of the committee that would nullify obamacare.
Deal with that, you DC fascists.
Another one coming down the pipe is the arrest and imprisonment of federal thugs who try to enforce the confiscation of weapons.
The federal fascists are heading into a buzzsaw with their underwear barn door wide open.
Train wreck or not, Baucus knows MT will endorse any and all liberalism henceforth.
The only way a disaster can be “implemented” is disastrously
it’s headed for a “train wreck” because of bumbling implementation.
No, it was bumbling and unworkable legislation from their own hands. This will be a complete debacle and the mother of all train wrecks. There are 2,000+ pages of highly complex requirements and interfaces that the underlying systems and hapless applicants will have to deal with. The mess is just beginning.
“.....Baucus expects to face a tough re-election in 2014.” These guys have no dignity whatsoever. 36 years of perks, power and stealing from the taxpayers just isn’t quite long enough.
I’ve never understood how states like MT could vote solid GOP in presidential elections then send Democrat lawmakers to Congress. I’m convinced the average voter doesn’t understand party majorities set the agenda in the House and Senate. They just think their guy is “ok”. It doesn’t matter how “ok” a local Democrat is, that guy or gal gives the evil communists who control the party the majority they need.
You forgot “All the waivers obama granted”.
To bad Max didn’t realize that when he voted for the bill. Oh wait he had to vote for it to find out what was in it.
Montana is neither a Red or Blue state. There are a million people in the whole state. One of the Senators is head of the Senate Finance committee and is in a position to send billions to Montana to pay for all of the programs mandated by the Federal government...
Are good folks of Montana going to replace him with someone at the bottom of the seniority ladder..nor a chance.
It's a shame there is no government organization that is set up with the responsibility of overseeing programs administered by the Executive Branch.
Just a darned shame.
“...he thinks it’s headed for a “train wreck” because of bumbling implementation.”
The O’care bill is crap because that is that way that Baucus wrote it! At least he didn’t blame GOP “obstruction.”
I believe that at the secret White House meeting this week the inevitable 100% increase in premiums for the peeps was revealed.
He was chosen as the central idol; the focus of a sort of santeria voodoo cult. He is Evita Peron. Hugo Chavez. None of his followers is willing to connect the dots that trail from the top ... down from a man who impresses me as not actually running anything. He is just trotted out to read statements from the teleprompter array that surrounds him at every public appearance. It is a cult.
Now, in his last two years, even those appearances appear contrived, wooden. There is not a scintilla of human emotion in his inane remarks about the Boston Massacre.
There is an even greater downside to this cult of personality into which you, I, and many another FReeper is in danger of falling. That is, we are focused too much on him. That, I am convinced is by design. While we bitch and moan about him, Team Obama, that is 'The Brains of the Outfit,' keep consolidating power. They WANT chaos and disarray, and they have gotten it.
After this catastrophic event I am convinced more than ever ... and I don't particularly care if we electy Daffy Duck to do it ... we must sweep Congress in '14. Let's concentrate on finding Republican, Tea Party, and Conservative candidates and hammer the SOBs into shape until they listen. And just BTW, why exactly cannot Boehner be dumped now?
“And just BTW, why exactly cannot Boehner be dumped now?”
I might be a minority on FR, but I believe that Boehner and McConnell outfoxed Barry on the New Year’s Day Deal.
Yup, they gave up $600 billion in tax increases on “the rich” but they suckered Barry into agreeing to put off the sequester cuts for ONLY TWO MONTHS. Barry thought he could pull of his community organizing campaign to scare the public with tails of horror and get the sequester cuts reversed, but HE FAILED! IMO Barry’s second administration was OVER on March 1.
Then Boehner and McConnell refused any “out of regular order” budget deals and forced the Senate Dems and also Barry to actually publish a Budgets with real cuts that PO their own constituents for a change.
Coming up Boehner and McConnell are promising to hold the line on demanding dollar for dollar spending cuts for any debt ceiling increases presumably backed by Barry’s sequester idea.
What’s not to like?
Time will tell.