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U.S. Boy Scouts set to end ban on gay members : spokesperson (Friday News Dump Alert)
http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/04/19/us-usa-boyscouts-ban-idINBRE93I0OY20130419 ^ | 4/19/2013 | Atossa Araxia Abrahamian

Posted on 04/19/2013 9:17:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory

The Boy Scouts of America called to end a long-standing ban on openly gay members, a spokesman said on Friday, but the organization's board must still vote in May on whether to ratify the resolution.

If the vote is approved, "no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone," Deron Smith, the organization's spokesman, told Reuters.

Smith noted that the decision drew from three months of research, surveys and discussions and was "among the most complex and challenging issues facing the BSA and society today."

The deliberations over whether to admit openly gay and lesbian members to the Boy Scouts has divided organizers, polarized its corporate and religious sponsors, and placed the group at the center of a nationwide debate over gay rights over the past two years.

"This is a historic change for the Boy Scouts," said Patrick Boyle, whose 1994 book "Scout's Honor" examined sexual abuse in the Boy Scouts of America.

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; children; family; homosexualagenda; scouting; scouts; sourcetitlenoturl
While the world is distracted, this is dumped out on a friday. Some mysterious unnamed spokesman. The final board vote is in May. This is a three month "study"? seems more a rubber stamp of radical access to children. What happened to the big meeting of all the voting council members?
1 posted on 04/19/2013 9:17:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
Seems like a very bad change in policy.

Nothing wholesome or good will come from this.

2 posted on 04/19/2013 9:19:28 AM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: longtermmemmory

Let every church know in your area about the danger in having their children in Scouts.


3 posted on 04/19/2013 9:19:46 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: longtermmemmory

The “Pedophile Scouts” doesn’t seem to have the same ring to it.


4 posted on 04/19/2013 9:20:52 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: longtermmemmory

Still a bad policy. If I had been a Scoutmaster out with a troop containing one gay kid, if he so much as stopped to pee I’d called the cops to pick him up.


5 posted on 04/19/2013 9:21:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: longtermmemmory

If this is true... Who wants to bet that the BSA is gone in less than ten years?


6 posted on 04/19/2013 9:22:04 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: ptsal

So what’s the new Scouting organization normal people can go to instead?


7 posted on 04/19/2013 9:22:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: longtermmemmory

So...too *many* perverts in the Catholic Church,too *few* perverts in the Boy Scouts.To Maoists the right balance of perverts seems very difficult to achieve.


8 posted on 04/19/2013 9:22:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: longtermmemmory
This will essentially end the Boy Scouts
9 posted on 04/19/2013 9:23:01 AM PDT by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: longtermmemmory

Notice how the Boy Scouts are changing policy based on cultural trends rather than remaining unchanged based on absolute moral principles (which don’t change). This is a sell out to liberalism and relativism.


10 posted on 04/19/2013 9:23:14 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: longtermmemmory

That’s it. If you’ve got a kid in the scouts, pull him out. They want to do this, they face the consequences.


11 posted on 04/19/2013 9:23:28 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: longtermmemmory

Organizational suicide by political correctness. See ya, BSA! It was nice while it lasted!


12 posted on 04/19/2013 9:23:56 AM PDT by reegs
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To: longtermmemmory

Everywhere perversion is triumphant.


13 posted on 04/19/2013 9:24:25 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: muawiyah

??? You wouldn’t let a kid pee?


14 posted on 04/19/2013 9:24:41 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: longtermmemmory

There is much erroneous information in the Reuters story. If you want to read the resolution for yourself go here:

http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2013/04/19/resolution/

Also there is info there on the breakouts of the survey. Bottom line is 72% of the charter organizations oppose ANY change, and roughly 2/3 of the members oppose ANY change.

The resolution still needs to be voted on in May so this battle is not over — even if the press wants to say it is.


15 posted on 04/19/2013 9:26:33 AM PDT by lost in the snow (One PO'ed Scout Master and Proud of the HIGH moral ground)
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To: reegs

there is still the vote in May.

The homosexuals are focusing on having “children” declare themselves as part of a recreational sex fetish.

No adults can be leaders but they can’t prohibit a child from saying they are sexually active in a sex fetish with adults?!?!?!?!?!

How is the rank and file going to react to this nuancing endangerment of minors?


16 posted on 04/19/2013 9:26:50 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Gay State Conservative

No need in turning this thread into another Catholic Church bashing. Anyone with a brain knows that the Catholic Church has less cases of sexual abuse than protestant faiths, Jewish faiths, and public schools.

But with that said, there are thousands of Catholic parishes all over this country that sponsor Boy Scout troups. If they are told they have to accept open homosexuals as either members or scout masters, they will quit sponsoring the boy scouts. It’s that simple. The end of the Boy Scouts of America is at hand. Another great American institute ran out of business by the perverts of America, and that is sad.


17 posted on 04/19/2013 9:29:47 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: reegs
Boy Scout Oath:

"On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight."

Looks like they need to rewrite the pledge. God does not approve of homosexuality, but the BSA does. Maybe change that last line to "To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally ambivilent."

18 posted on 04/19/2013 9:30:11 AM PDT by reegs
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To: The Working Man

If this is true... Who wants to bet that the BSA is gone in less than ten years?

And, isn’t that the idea~~to destroy any American institution that ideals are based with Judeo/Christianity principles.
Or,part of American culture!
A very sad day!!!


19 posted on 04/19/2013 9:30:26 AM PDT by Isabel2010
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To: longtermmemmory

“no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone,”

I thought this was already policy as for scout membership. This says nothing about allowing fag leaders.


20 posted on 04/19/2013 9:31:49 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: NKP_Vet
No need in turning this thread into another Catholic Church bashing. Anyone with a brain knows that the Catholic Church has less cases of sexual abuse than protestant faiths, Jewish faiths, and public schools. But with that said, there are thousands of Catholic parishes all over this country that sponsor Boy Scout troups. If they are told they have to accept open homosexuals as either members or scout masters, they will quit sponsoring the boy scouts. It’s that simple. The end of the Boy Scouts of America is at hand. Another great American institute ran out of business by the perverts of America, and that is sad.

And I would guess that the LDS and many Evangelical churches would do the same. The Muslims too (if any sponsor BSA troops) for that matter.

21 posted on 04/19/2013 9:38:58 AM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: longtermmemmory

I just read the synopsis. 3 of 4 council regions and the majority of Scout leaders, especially Boy Scout leaders like myself support the current policy and oppose a change. Most corporate funding groups also support the current policy. Pathetically, they also surveyed 30 other youth serving organizations. 28 oppose current policy, one mildly supports it and one is neutral. Apparently they didn’t bother to contact American Heritage Girls with whom they have a strategic alliance for their opinion.


22 posted on 04/19/2013 9:41:09 AM PDT by cyclotic (In a society of wolves, you do not fight back by creating more sheep-Dan Bongino)
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To: stuartcr

Knowing he was gay, no exhibitions. His mumsey will need to wire him up with a container and a cone device ~ seriously!


23 posted on 04/19/2013 9:43:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fidelis

There are questions about the LDS.


24 posted on 04/19/2013 9:44:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: longtermmemmory
This is a Reuters article...and as such it has been slanted to give the impression that it's a done deal. Reading some of the posts here made me double check that I was on Free Republic and not one of those hand-wringing and wailing libtard sites.
25 posted on 04/19/2013 9:44:35 AM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: reegs
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally ambivalent."

I like it. Or maybe... "To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally ... whatever".

26 posted on 04/19/2013 9:45:31 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: fidelis

“And I would guess that the LDS and many Evangelical churches would do the same. The Muslims too (if any sponsor BSA troops) for that matter”.

You are 100% right. To paraphrase a great movie opening line “There was a time in America when morals and alligance to God meant something, when young boys and girls were taught common decency, the Ten Commandments and morality. When God came first and service to their fellow man followed. Remember these organizations fondly, for they are no more. They are never to return, for they are “Gone with the Wind”.


27 posted on 04/19/2013 9:46:48 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: longtermmemmory

So will there be a corn holing merit badge now? I hate what is happening to this once proud nation. And the pace seems to be picking up too.


28 posted on 04/19/2013 9:47:12 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
So will there be a corn holing merit badge now? I hate what is happening to this once proud nation. And the pace seems to be picking up too.

Probably not that flagrant, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a "Diversity" merit badge in the near future.

29 posted on 04/19/2013 9:50:10 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: muawiyah

why?


30 posted on 04/19/2013 9:51:08 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: longtermmemmory

Sounds like the fix is in, somehow. Obviously the majority of scout leaders and scout parents are against this. This is being pushed through against majority will like so many other liberal agenda items have been over the last few decades.

That this could happen in such a large private organization is disheartening. My older son is an Eagle already and my younger son is on his way. If this actually happens, we will have to do some serious rethinking.


31 posted on 04/19/2013 9:51:44 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: cyclotic

“other youth serving organizations”?

Dr. Hanibal Lecter cooking school for youth?


32 posted on 04/19/2013 9:51:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stuartcr
No exhibits ~ slightest sign of that the dude gets to see the police.

It's all a matter of experience, and a setting of standards.

With 40 years experience dealing with the publishing and graphics arts industries I think my standard is workable.

33 posted on 04/19/2013 9:53:44 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: longtermmemmory

My boys are out of the program. Too bad.


34 posted on 04/19/2013 9:54:13 AM PDT by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: crazyhorse691

The is a very specific propaganda method.

Reuters is creating the “false peer pressure” by IMPLYING everyone supports this move to sexually objectify minors.

Reuters in essence is creating phantom peers.

Phantom peers is a method of behavior modification for contolling public opinions.

Since EVERYONE wants the fetish then your friends support the fetish, therefore you should think like your friends. Everyone agrees. (yes comrade?)

It is akin to the big lie theory.

By exposing the vote was 72% no to homosexuals AND in order to get to that number they had to include outside groups that were known to favor homosexuals in their ranks, it becomes less persuasive.

The group to keep the bad should expose this study as an out and out fraud on the membership. Resignations should follow.


35 posted on 04/19/2013 9:57:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

bad= bad people out.


36 posted on 04/19/2013 10:02:20 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; wisconsinconservative; AFPhys; ...

Scouts


37 posted on 04/19/2013 10:07:07 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: longtermmemmory

Every family should immediately withdraw their sons before they are preyed upon.


38 posted on 04/19/2013 10:11:50 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: muawiyah

Would you let the other kids pee?

You must have some weird experiences, sorry


39 posted on 04/19/2013 10:15:21 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

Not weird. Ever out somewhere with a bunch of gays?


40 posted on 04/19/2013 10:16:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ptsal

I was in boyscouts, and i can tell you i would have quit before being placed in a camping situation with an openly gay boy.

We don’t camp with girls for the same reason. Moreover Homosexuality is a sin by biblical law and a disease by scientific definition.(it inhibits the biologically vital process of reproduction) The Boy Scouts of America would cease to be a organization build upon biblical(moral) law were it to embrace this behaviore.


41 posted on 04/19/2013 10:17:03 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: muawiyah

Not that I know of. Would you let the other scouts pee?


42 posted on 04/19/2013 10:18:40 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

Fifty years ago our troop went on a 50 mile hike in Olympic National Park, on the Elwah River Trail.

When we broke the last camp, after breakfast, we all gathered around the fire and put it out. I think there we were 14 scouts and two scoutmasters, all peeing on the fire.


43 posted on 04/19/2013 10:29:39 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Caipirabob

New name is “Gay Sprouts”


44 posted on 04/19/2013 10:32:05 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: JohnnyP

Makes for really smelly smoke


45 posted on 04/19/2013 10:32:07 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: chris37

first they vote, then decide.

We have to meet to vote in May first.

This is reuters, “if it is Reuters, its wrong.”

show them propaganda does not work.


46 posted on 04/19/2013 10:37:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I’m on the board of a local Kiwanis organization I will vote against any more funding of the BS if they bend over for the SSAD crowd. We give them thousands every year but no more.


47 posted on 04/19/2013 11:27:14 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Drawsing
If this actually happens, we will have to do some serious rethinking.

Serious thinking??? About what, whether to chuck your principles and accept that which you know to be wrong?

48 posted on 04/19/2013 12:16:22 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Wurlitzer

All the sudden the BSA will condone the crime of sodomy? If they go through with this garbage, stick a fork in them, they are done. God does not change his views on sin, and you can not be a sodomite and be living your life according to the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.

“On my honor I will do my best
to do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout law;
to help other people at all times;
to keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight”

http://web.archive.org/web/20100206191637/http://www.bsalegal.org/morally-straight-cases-225.asp


49 posted on 04/19/2013 2:31:58 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: longtermmemmory

Ever since this news cycle started the press has presented each step of the process as meaning that the Boy Scouts are going to make a policy change. They consistently want to keep any possibility that it might NOT change out of people’s minds. And now that the proposal has come to light, the gay activists are NOT happy - as it does not require Scout units to register gay adults.


50 posted on 04/24/2013 8:58:48 AM PDT by RonF
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