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Details Emerge of Alleged Carjacking by Bomber Suspects
Wall St. Journal ^ | April 21, 2012 | PERVAIZ SHALLWANI

Posted on 04/22/2013 7:07:26 AM PDT by ladyjane

New details emerged Sunday of the accused marathon bombers' alleged theft of a sport-utility vehicle before a chaotic gunfight in the city's suburbs.

(more at WSJ)

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bostonmarathon
The brothers told the driver they wouldn't kill him because he wasn't an American.
1 posted on 04/22/2013 7:07:27 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

I caught that too..wonder if that’s why the won’t say who he is?


2 posted on 04/22/2013 7:09:32 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: ladyjane

Still odd. The brothers had cars and their friends had cars (mercedes, yet)—but they had to take the chance of hijacking another car?

And they let the driver go (mistake?) —and his call to police is what got them caught?

Or, did they meet with a contact who gave them a car and cash, and then deliberately phoned police to turn them in—thinking that they wouldn’t be taken alive, or would commit suicide if cornered?

Is that the way a terror cell operates—to protect itself?

The bombers are the lowest men on the ladder, they are expendable. Get a couple of low-level dupes to plant the bombs, then break the link in the chain (remove them) and the cell can continue to operate?

Don’t know. But maybe worth looking into

(I’m sure the FBI will get around to it right after they finish checking if they had permits for their guns,
and permits to stay in the USA, and were not being sought by foreign governments, and where they got their money from,
and if they were in the drug trade, and what the “terrorista” plate meant...)


3 posted on 04/22/2013 7:15:44 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: ladyjane

“The brothers told the driver they wouldn’t kill him because he wasn’t an American.”

I hadn’t heard that but when I heard they let him live it crossed my mind that it was something like that.

I find it ironic that a muslim terrorist is being treated at the Beth Israel Medical Center. I hope the authorities are making sure he knows who’s saving his life.


4 posted on 04/22/2013 7:20:08 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: CondorFlight

I think the purpose of the car jacking was to drain the victim’s bank account. So the stealing of the car was secondary.

And, they may have feared that their own cars would have been identified.

And - some reports on the gun battle in watertown list the brothers as driving two vehicles - the hijacked SUV, and a Honda sedan, which may have been their car.


5 posted on 04/22/2013 7:26:00 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: ladyjane

Come on, people. My bet is the “victim” is one of them, most likely another Saudi.

Their handler with the burned hands was in the hospital/custody. They had to call another in for help. They drive around a while pleading that they need a car, but he can’t just give it to them without implicating himself. Thus, the “car jacking”.


6 posted on 04/22/2013 7:26:31 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: ladyjane

What I loved best was the Coexist bumper sticker on the car.

Perfect touch in the video of the shoot-out.


7 posted on 04/22/2013 7:28:41 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: ladyjane
An interesting conundrum -- if a gunman points a gun at your head and says, "I hate Christians. Are you a Christian?" What do you say? I think a smart Christian says "I am a Christian."

If a carjacker were to jump into your car and say, "I won't kill you because you are not an American" -- would you correct them and declare your patriotism?

Love of country and love of God are not the same thing, but our Founders pledged their lives, their honor and their fortunes to give us this country. How quickly would we declare, "American? Me? Ha! I voted for Obama, man!"

8 posted on 04/22/2013 7:30:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: pnz1

I’m wondering if he has a Middle Eastern name.


9 posted on 04/22/2013 7:35:04 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: No Truce With Kings

10 posted on 04/22/2013 7:40:13 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: V_TWIN

Yes, Interesting that they took him to Beth Israel. Maybe that hospital has the best security?

Earlier bombing victims were taken - according to the MSM - to five other hospitals. They never mentioned taking anyone to Beth Israel which is odd because it is known for having a good ER. Maybe it’s not a high level trauma center. But if it’s not then why did they take the 2nd bomber there?


11 posted on 04/22/2013 7:40:54 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: CondorFlight
did they meet with a contact who gave them a car and cash, and then deliberately phoned police to turn them in—thinking that they wouldn’t be taken alive, or would commit suicide if cornered?

Probably so. Notice on the map that they were driving all over as if they were making specific stops rather than getting the heck outta Dodge as quick as possible. It's been speculated little brother deliberately ran over his brother rather than have him taken into custody and then attempted suicide in the boat.

12 posted on 04/22/2013 7:42:15 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

We have a winner!


13 posted on 04/22/2013 7:42:18 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ClearCase_guy
An interesting conundrum -- if a gunman points a gun at your head and says, "I hate Christians. Are you a Christian?" What do you say? I think a smart Christian says "I am a Christian."

I think a "smart" Christian says "no". But a faithful one says "Yes".

14 posted on 04/22/2013 7:43:12 AM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: No Truce With Kings

I didn’t realize it really had a Coexist bumper sticker. Did you see it? I thought that was an internet joke. That *is* funny.


15 posted on 04/22/2013 7:43:16 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: ladyjane
They should make sure all the blood he receives is from Sabra (native-born) Israeli's.
16 posted on 04/22/2013 7:44:06 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: smith288

It’s not smart to be faithless.


17 posted on 04/22/2013 7:44:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: CondorFlight

Gosh, I remember when I was a college student and could only afford a Mercedes...


18 posted on 04/22/2013 7:45:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: CondorFlight

Gosh, I remember when I was a college student and could only afford a Mercedes...


19 posted on 04/22/2013 7:45:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: ladyjane

“Yes, Interesting that they took him to Beth Israel.”

he was in pretty bad shape, it might have been the closest one to where he was captured.


20 posted on 04/22/2013 7:45:41 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
Come on, people. My bet is the “victim” is one of them, most likely another Saudi.

I thought right away that the fact they didn't kill the guy smelled.

21 posted on 04/22/2013 7:46:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
Their handler with the burned hands was in the hospital/custody. They had to call another in for help. They drive around a while pleading that they need a car, but he can’t just give it to them without implicating himself. Thus, the “car jacking”.

That's my suspicion. That, or the driver was Muslim, they tried to talk him into helping them as fellow Muslims, and the driver got cold feet. The "carjack victim" should be looking into. Closely.

22 posted on 04/22/2013 7:47:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It’s not smart to be faithless.

I wasnt talking about a spiritual sense. You'd likely be dead which, in a worldy view, isn't "smart". But in a faithful one, is.

23 posted on 04/22/2013 7:47:35 AM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: ladyjane

Report: Bomb suspects’ carjack victim spared because he wasn’t American

By KEVIN ROBILLARD | 4/22/13 8:47 AM EDT

The two brothers suspected of bombing the Boston Marathon’s finish line told the man they carjacked on Thursday night that they only decided not to kill him because he “wasn’t an American,” according to a report Monday.

NBC’s Pete Williams said the man, who asked not to be identified, told police that Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev said they spared his life because he was not an American.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/boston-marathon-bombing-carjacking-victim-90415.html#ixzz2RCgFeoa7


24 posted on 04/22/2013 7:48:24 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: pnz1

Oh, he’s probably another one “here on a student visa” from yet a terrorist country, overstayed his visa by decades, or another illegal alien ordered deported and convicted felon, just “doing things that Americans refuse to do.”


25 posted on 04/22/2013 7:48:53 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: V_TWIN

Years ago at the end of WWII they found a very young German soldier who had been seriously injured. He was hiding in a barn and my great uncle was called to care for him. After applying a tourniquet he was preparing to give him some blood. The young kid looked at him and asked in German “What is that?” My g. uncle replied in German, “Good Jewish blood from New York.” The young German soldier said “mox nix”.


26 posted on 04/22/2013 7:51:10 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: ladyjane

I’ve always wanted to ask people with those bumper stickers

“how many Muslims do you think have those stickers on their cars?”


27 posted on 04/22/2013 7:53:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The victim told police he was driven to a Shell Gas Station on Memorial Drive in Watertown. Inside the car, the brothers “declared to [the victim] that they were the Boston Marathon bombers and would not kill him because he wasn’t American,” the report said.

Already, I’m seeing articles and posts that are beginning to show sympathy for the brothers. The younger will soon be a folk hero.

Anyone...anyone who does not favor the death penalty or that this should be before a military court is naive.


28 posted on 04/22/2013 7:54:18 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: ladyjane

What I’ve not heard is - why did they kill the MIT security guard? The commissioner said it was an “assassination”, but weren’t they trying to get away? And just happened to show up at a c-store while it was being robbed? Odd coincidence, to say the least.


29 posted on 04/22/2013 8:02:50 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: ladyjane

It’s nauseating the way some of the media want to portray Tsarnaev Jr. as some misguided fresh-face kid!

He murdered people for Chri^% sake!


30 posted on 04/22/2013 8:03:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: MrB
This one, quite a few I'll bet!


31 posted on 04/22/2013 8:05:20 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: ladyjane

Thsi should change oour perception of our “fellow citizen” Dzokhar. He is now, by his own statement an enemy combatant.


32 posted on 04/22/2013 8:06:23 AM PDT by ZULU
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Report: Bomb suspects’ carjack victim spared because he wasn’t American

Kind of answers the whole “no motive has been determined” question doesn’t it? Kills me how the media keep saying that when we all know the answer.


33 posted on 04/22/2013 8:07:29 AM PDT by happilymarriedmom
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To: bigbob
I think you stumbled on the weakest link in the "official" story. If you put together the killing of the MIT security guard and announcing they were the Boston Marathon bombers to the "car-jacking victim", you can only guess that they wanted to be caught, or at least wanted a confrontation.

Or, were they a diversion???

34 posted on 04/22/2013 8:07:42 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: PGR88

35 posted on 04/22/2013 8:16:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm afraid to go visit any American college because of all the foreign students with bombs.)
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To: ladyjane
"I didn’t realize it really had a Coexist bumper sticker. Did you see it? I thought that was an internet joke. That *is* funny."


36 posted on 04/22/2013 8:19:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm afraid to go visit any American college because of all the foreign students with bombs.)
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37 posted on 04/22/2013 8:26:30 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
An interesting conundrum -- if a gunman points a gun at your head and says, "I hate Christians. Are you a Christian?" What do you say? I think a smart Christian says "I am a Christian."

...of course what I would say...

...right after emptying my 2nd mag in their lifeless body...

...yep I'm a Christian, but unluckily for you, not a very good one...

38 posted on 04/22/2013 8:30:01 AM PDT by cyberaxe (....Uuuummpphhhh.....)
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To: zerosix
he’s probably another one “here on a student visa”

Perhaps BIG SIS can do her job and start CHECKING STUDENT VISAS!!! And those that have a student visa AND are on a terror watch list, perhaps we can deport them BEFORE the next attack, eh?
39 posted on 04/22/2013 8:36:45 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: PGR88
 photo dummie_car.jpg

"HERE'S your sticker..."

40 posted on 04/22/2013 8:52:06 AM PDT by mikrofon ( < /Engvall >)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Yeah, and like the Saudi “student” who is supposed to be attending college in IL but has an apartment and living well in Revere, MA!


41 posted on 04/22/2013 9:02:54 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: V_TWIN
I hope they're dancing the hava nagila around his bed hourly just to rub it in.

CC

42 posted on 04/22/2013 9:09:01 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Tease not the dragon, for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: smith288

A smart Christian says yes. We are smart enough to know where we are going and to Whom we belong. Our Lord said whoever denies me before men I will deny before My father. Smart to deny Him to spare a life soon over anyway and lose eternity? Only in the eyes of the world


43 posted on 04/22/2013 9:17:01 AM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: ladyjane

“I didn’t realize it really had a Coexist bumper sticker. Did you see it? I thought that was an internet joke. That *is* funny.”

If you go to Legal Insurrection you can see it. It was mentioned on Ricochet, too.


44 posted on 04/22/2013 9:17:52 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: mikrofon

I would love to talk to the person that owns that car. Sticker are my door to converse with these idiots! But they really don’t know what do with a guy like me.


45 posted on 04/22/2013 9:19:23 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: No Truce With Kings
The only Coexist sticker I need to see.
46 posted on 04/22/2013 12:05:13 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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To: smith288

Hey, we Christians can practice taqiyya too ya know...I’d rather not give them the satisfaction- then I’d spend the rest of my life hunting THEM down.


47 posted on 04/22/2013 1:31:19 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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