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Get Ready To Be Taxed on Internet Purchases
National Journal via Yahoo ^ | 4/23/13 | Nancy Cook

Posted on 04/23/2013 1:54:01 PM PDT by Jean S

Proposed Internet sales-tax legislation received a huge boost on Monday when the White House officially backed the bill, saying it would level the playing field among online and retail stores by ensuring that both pay sales taxes.

“Today, while local small-business retailers follow the law and collect sales taxes from customers who make purchases in their stores, many big-business online and catalogue retailers do not collect the same taxes,” White House press secretary Jay Carney. “This puts local, neighborhood-based small businesses at a disadvantage to big, out-of-state, online companies.”

Now, the Senate is scheduled to debate the Internet sales-tax legislation for the remainder of the week, and the bill is largely expected to pass (a similar, nonbinding amendment was approved weeks ago, 75-24).

The so-called “Marketplace Fairness Act” would allow a state to collect sales tax on Internet purchases made by its residents, even if the Internet company has its headquarters in a different state. It would exempt online companies with sales of less than $1 million a year from collecting or paying the sales taxes, and it would add roughly $10.1 billion a year to local government coffers, according to the Congressional Research Service, at a time when most states are looking for any and all fiscal fixes.

But, the essence of the fight really pits industry against industry.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; bho44; congress; democrats; internetsalestax; internettax; liberals; obama; onlinesalestax; onlinetax; salestax; showrooming; taxes; taxincrease; taxtaxtax
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1 posted on 04/23/2013 1:54:01 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Because nothing spells “Economic Recovery” like “Tax Increase.”


2 posted on 04/23/2013 1:55:24 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: Jean S

This is such BS. Many of my Amazon purchases are supplied by small businesses.


3 posted on 04/23/2013 1:56:19 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Jean S

Never miss an opportunity to increase taxes. I’ll bet my RINOs are in the yea column.


4 posted on 04/23/2013 1:56:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Jean S

They’ve been waiting to do this for a long time. THe one part of the economy doing well, and you can’t have the economic collapse/crisis you’ve been wet dreaming about for so long, with sections of it working well.


5 posted on 04/23/2013 1:57:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Jean S

I thought it was unconstitutional to have interstate taxation?

Article 1 Section 9:
“No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any state.”


6 posted on 04/23/2013 1:58:06 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Jean S

obama said he would never tax the middle class.

this will tax the middle class.


7 posted on 04/23/2013 1:59:19 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (If the republican party wants to be the democrat lite party then they don't need my vote)
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To: Jean S

Hey, Leftist Bay Area Internet E-Commerce Entrepreneurs.....the JOKE’S ON YOU!!!!


8 posted on 04/23/2013 1:59:37 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Jean S
Proposed Internet sales-tax legislation received a huge boost on Monday when the White House officially backed the bill, saying it would level the playing field among online and retail stores by ensuring that both pay sales taxes.

Note that "leveling the playing field" always seems to be achieved by adding weights to the fast runner.

9 posted on 04/23/2013 1:59:44 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Marketplace Fairness Act , sounds like it was created by a Democrat


10 posted on 04/23/2013 1:59:46 PM PDT by molson209
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Fine. Then we should just refuse to purchase online for six months or so. Guess who’ll be demanding the taxes be done away with then.


11 posted on 04/23/2013 2:01:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Leftist, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, fundamentalist Islamic policies, the death of a nation.)
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To: CodeToad

“I thought it was unconstitutional to have interstate taxation?”

Tenth Amendment: A state has the inherent and reserved right to regulate its domestic commerce. However, that right must be exercised in a manner that does not interfere with, or place a burden on, interstate commerce, or else Congress may regulate that area of domestic commerce in order to protect interstate commerce from the unreasonable burden.

In other words, the Several States have no rights. They are an anachronism.


12 posted on 04/23/2013 2:04:31 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: DoughtyOne

That’s my plan!


13 posted on 04/23/2013 2:07:13 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts help hold the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Jean S

The wife and I have not purchased from Amazon since they nuckled under to Texas on sales taxes. And since that time alot of others have too because Amazon has not made their sales estimates with Wall Street for the last two quarters.


14 posted on 04/23/2013 2:07:29 PM PDT by Patriot365
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To: CodeToad
Well...If I buy a car or anything major out of state PA charges me a use tax before I can register/use it.

Weasel socialists have ways around everything.

15 posted on 04/23/2013 2:10:55 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts help hold the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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16 posted on 04/23/2013 2:14:39 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Jean S

The very fist sentence is wrong. Businesses do not “pay” sales tax. They are forced by law to collect it on behalf of the state. This bill give states permission to force businesses across the nation to collect tax for them.

You’ve always been bound by law to pay a sales or use tax on everything you buy. There’s just no method of enforcement for out of state purchases so folks rarely comply. (I certainly don’t...)


17 posted on 04/23/2013 2:16:28 PM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: Jean S
Boston Bombing! Ricin attack! Explosion at Waco!

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain (raising your taxes on the Internet).

18 posted on 04/23/2013 2:16:37 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Jean S
If this passes, then, since I live in a state with no sales tax, I will be happy to make your online purchase for you and then promptly send it you.

For a nominal fee, of course...

19 posted on 04/23/2013 2:18:31 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: Jean S

In National Bellas Hess v. Department of Revenue, 386 U.S. 753, 87 S.Ct. 1389 (1967), the Supreme Court ruled that a mail order reseller was not required to collect sales tax unless it had some physical contact with the state.


20 posted on 04/23/2013 2:19:30 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: onyx

Democrat “fairness” = You get screwed.


21 posted on 04/23/2013 2:21:48 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: molson209
Marketplace Fairness Act , sounds like it was created by a Democrat

Straight from the Atlas Shrugged manuscript.

22 posted on 04/23/2013 2:23:26 PM PDT by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: Jean S

There cannot posible be an internet versus brick-and-mortar store level playing field.

The internet seller does not have to support the INCREDIBLE overhead of a store with cooling, heating, parking, security, sales peeps, etc. ad infinitum.

The internet will still undercut regular store sales by a huge percentage.

The best idea is to have A NATIONAL STRIKE where no one buys ANYTHING but food and gasoline for 2 weeks.

OMG!


23 posted on 04/23/2013 2:25:47 PM PDT by Huebolt (A country that has tipped will fall. RIP USA)
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To: AndrewB
Businesses do not “pay” sales tax. They are forced by law to collect it on behalf of the state.

Doesn't this violate the 13th amendment?

24 posted on 04/23/2013 2:26:19 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: Jean S

Surely the house will not vote for another tax increase? Last time I checked the GOP was in control of the house.


25 posted on 04/23/2013 2:27:43 PM PDT by soycd
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To: molson209

Marketplace Fairness Act , sounds like it was created by a Democrat


or by Ayn Rand.


26 posted on 04/23/2013 2:27:52 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Fine. Then we should just refuse to purchase online for six months or so. Guess who’ll be demanding the taxes be done away with then.”

Great idea!


27 posted on 04/23/2013 2:28:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Huebolt
The best idea is to have A NATIONAL STRIKE where no one buys ANYTHING but food and gasoline for 2 weeks.

Heck, I'm pretty much doing that right now.

28 posted on 04/23/2013 2:29:00 PM PDT by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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What is sales tax?


29 posted on 04/23/2013 2:32:29 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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So tax on “internet purchase,” but if I call the seller to place an order, then no tax?


30 posted on 04/23/2013 2:34:00 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: Jean S

It’s the online businesses that are at a disadvantage. Sell online and somebody has to pay for shipping. Depending on the item, the shipping can be anywhere from $20 to $500+ (large furniture items, cars, etc.) And if the buyer pickups up the item in person from the online store - the tax is charged so this law does nothing but hurt the online businesses that have to pay shipping.


31 posted on 04/23/2013 2:34:14 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: soycd

In a sane world this would be true, but Boehner is in charge of the house. It could be that the numbnuts writing these articles have no idea that the senate and house BOTH have to pass a bill into law.


32 posted on 04/23/2013 2:34:39 PM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: Col Frank Slade

Always!


33 posted on 04/23/2013 2:38:04 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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34 posted on 04/23/2013 2:38:22 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: soycd

I agree. The Democrats have tried to do this every year since on-line sales were invented, and every year it has failed. I think it will be easy for the Republicans (even the RINOs) in the House to vote against it.

Of course, when I moved to Colorado 20 years ago I thought it would always be a conservative state. Now the Democrat-controlled legislature is taking away our rights as fast as they can draft the violations to the Constitution.


35 posted on 04/23/2013 2:43:30 PM PDT by American Quilter (I will succeed despite the liberals.)
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To: SampleMan

Note the lack of nuance exhibited by ignoring places with no sales tax.


36 posted on 04/23/2013 2:48:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jean S
Tax, tax, tax. Spend, spend, spend.

They've never seen a tax they didn't like. If justice was truly served, they'd all be in prison.

37 posted on 04/23/2013 2:57:20 PM PDT by grimalkin (Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God. -G.K. Chesterton)
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To: soycd

If you have a state sales tax, you should be paying it already. Iowa has a line item on the return for it.

Most people decide to cheat it.


38 posted on 04/23/2013 2:58:05 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Jean S
Fine.

I'll be buying on Craigslist, to avoid taxes....until they jump on that, too.

39 posted on 04/23/2013 3:01:00 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: SampleMan

Yep, why not simply lower property taxes on brick and mortars? Why not lower sales taxes on in-state purchases?

Brick and mortars are making a deal with the devil. As long as there are “tax free” Internet sales, there will be a cap on local taxes. As soon as that ends the lid can come off.

This is terrible policy. I mean, if Obama wants it, it cannot be good.


40 posted on 04/23/2013 3:01:24 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jean S

A pox on their houses. Politicians never saw a tax they didn’t like, or think of first.


41 posted on 04/23/2013 3:04:58 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Jean S

Better be DOA in the House.


42 posted on 04/23/2013 3:05:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Jean S

From my High School History I seem to recall that this Country once fought a war over Taxes, Tyranny and Guns!!!


43 posted on 04/23/2013 3:05:46 PM PDT by thegrump
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To: Jean S

This sounds like it could be a nightmare for small businesses everywhere.

What happens if you get a statement from Iowa saying you owe them $2000, and another from Florida saying you owe them $700 when you believe you don’t. Will you have to defend yourself against all 50 states?


44 posted on 04/23/2013 3:06:29 PM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: redgolum

We are supposed to voluntarily pay it in TN but of course no one does.

At least not individuals. Business better pay on out of state purchases (called a use tax here but still just the sales tax) because they get audited.

Big purchases like furniture from NC you better pay...NC has an agreement with TN and they send the state the information.

If you buy a car out of state they get their sales tax when you register and get tags.

I recently spent $28 on something from Amazon.com and they sent me, and the state, an email with the information. While the state won’t come after me for the $2.59 tax they probably could.

Canada requires the shipper to do the same and they will collect from their citizens. I sent someting to a friend in Calgary once and she got a bill for the tax.


45 posted on 04/23/2013 3:07:14 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. We need to start over.)
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To: Jean S
If the states are going to get $10.1 billion the Feds must be raking off double that to pay for the bureaucracy that will be needed to administer it. And of course there will be a "service" charge that will be discovered in 6 months to be added by the Feds cause they don't get enough.

Funny they don't mention who is going to administer the program.

46 posted on 04/23/2013 3:10:07 PM PDT by Flint
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To: Jean S

And this is also a foot in the door to institute a national sales tax on top of all the other taxes we are forced to pay.


47 posted on 04/23/2013 3:10:52 PM PDT by Flint
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To: Col Frank Slade

Democrat “fairness” = You get screwed.


Progressive = Repressive


48 posted on 04/23/2013 3:10:53 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Jean S

Maybe its time to go underground somewhat. Trade and barter with family, friends and associates and skip the government extortion’s whenever possible. Starve the beast ay?


49 posted on 04/23/2013 3:11:08 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Jean S

wait a minute. where is this bill being introduced? boehner controls the house where revenue bills have to originate. is boehner for this?


50 posted on 04/23/2013 3:11:14 PM PDT by dadfly
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