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Get Ready To Be Taxed on Internet Purchases
National Journal via Yahoo ^ | 4/23/13 | Nancy Cook

Posted on 04/23/2013 1:54:01 PM PDT by Jean S

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To: prisoner6
Weasel socialists have ways around everything.

We can do the same to them. Trust me there are ways. F**K them!

101 posted on 04/23/2013 7:26:46 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Jean S

Prolly because Wal-Mart wants to compete with Amazon.


102 posted on 04/23/2013 7:26:51 PM PDT by joyce11111 (he police minute)
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To: grimalkin
If justice was truly served, they'd all be in prison.

If justice was TRULY served, we would have hung most of them long ago. But I repeat myself.

103 posted on 04/23/2013 7:30:31 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: savedbygrace

“has a “presence” in a State”

Correct, but the courts have also said a presence must be at least one person paid by the company that conducts their primary job within the state. As you said, this bill doesn’t even require that.


104 posted on 04/23/2013 7:32:06 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: dadfly
boehner controls the house where revenue bills have to originate.

That portion of the Constitution was gutted several years ago when a tax bill originated in the Senate and was then passed by the House. Michelle Bachmann pointed out at the time it was Unconstitutional and still a bunch of traitorous Republicans voted for it.

Welcome to Venezuela of the North. How long before the government sends inspectors into your home to look for incandescent light bulbs (as was done by the military in Venezuela)?

105 posted on 04/23/2013 7:52:00 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Jean S

Sellers only need to keep track of 10,000 separate tax codes in the United States. They are trying to break the backs of internet sellers and drive customers away. If something is working, our congress and president must destroy it.


106 posted on 04/23/2013 7:54:37 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Roku cheaper than cable. It's free once you buy one.)
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To: Jean S

“Today, while local small-business retailers follow the law and collect sales taxes from customers who make purchases in their stores,”
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Really...small-business retailers? NOT! Walmart is probably behind this as well as those money grubbing democrats. I believe Obama is “gifting” this bill for Walmart because they backed obamacare and I believe Walmart is also extremely interested in pushing the immigration bill.(cheap Mexican labor)


107 posted on 04/23/2013 7:58:19 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: Patriot365

This could be even worse. I have streaming media to escape cable tv. Streaming media uses my wireless router to pick up the signal. I wonder if Netflix, amazon, et al will be taxing the tv shows and movies people select on their tv or internet. Cable is a wasteland. At least streaming media has thousands to choose from. I guess I won’t be ordering tv shows if they are going to be taxed. I should call Senator Rubio to find out if streaming media will be taxed. Of course they won’t know cuz he’s too busy helping the democrats get the hispanic vote.


108 posted on 04/23/2013 7:59:59 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Roku cheaper than cable. It's free once you buy one.)
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To: Jean S
Is purchasing downloads a purchase? Is renting Netflix or other tv channels via streaming media going to be a purchase? IF so, I guess I won't be purchasing Spongebob Squarepants from amazon.

Does anyone know if this affects movie and tv show downloads? This could kill Netflix. It would be cheaper for people to go to Red Box at their corner store and rent a movie outright.

Is downloading movies/tv a rental or a purchase????? What about i-tunes? This might be bigger than ebay and amazon. Way bigger.

109 posted on 04/23/2013 8:02:38 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Roku cheaper than cable. It's free once you buy one.)
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To: TurboZamboni

The garage sale police will do warrantless searches too. It’s easier to go after regular people vs. real criminals and terrorists, drug cartels.


110 posted on 04/23/2013 8:04:35 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Roku cheaper than cable. It's free once you buy one.)
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To: floriduh voter

NOTE TO SELF: phone calls.


111 posted on 04/23/2013 8:05:53 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Roku cheaper than cable. It's free once you buy one.)
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To: floriduh voter

Phone calls on post 59.


112 posted on 04/23/2013 8:07:01 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Roku cheaper than cable. It's free once you buy one.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Lightbulbs are in an undisclosed location but if they confiscate our property, lightbulbs will be immaterial.


113 posted on 04/23/2013 8:08:40 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Roku cheaper than cable. It's free once you buy one.)
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To: Patriot365

You’re punishing Amazon because they “(k)nuckled under to Texas on sales taxes”? You should be mad at Texas, not Amazon. Texas has a law... if you have a presence in the state, then you pay sales taxes. Amazon has a presence in Texas, so they follow the law. What would you expect them to do? Move their distribution center OUT of Texas?


114 posted on 04/23/2013 8:11:12 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: PastorBooks

Maybe the IRS will have a database. It will be as excellent as the database we don’t have yet for health care exchanges. In other words, this government is incapable of doing anything correctly but it doesn’t stop them. We’re from the government and we are to help separate you from your money. You have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it, internet retailers.


115 posted on 04/23/2013 8:13:39 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Roku cheaper than cable. It's free once you buy one.)
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To: floriduh voter

When you order online you have to factor in the shipping & handling fees. If your purchase is sent via USPS the gov. gets that money. With a tax added, buying online will no longer have a positive reason for doing so. I will buy locally and pay the tax and save on the S&H. Could it be that they lose enough on postage to cancel any benefit from a new tax? Just asking. The P.O. is already in deep trouble.


116 posted on 04/23/2013 8:42:51 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Jean S

Which brick and mortar business files quarterly sales tax forms to thousands of separate tax jurisdictions. This does not level the playing field, it kills off the small businesses that provide most of America’s jobs. Meanwhile big business bailouts and crony capitalism run rampant.


117 posted on 04/23/2013 8:44:48 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: onyx

Buuuuump!


118 posted on 04/23/2013 8:49:48 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jean S

no because shopping will simply move outside the usa.

Policians who don’t know how ecconomics work.


119 posted on 04/23/2013 8:51:48 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Jean S
Proposed Internet sales-tax legislation received a huge boost on Monday when the White House officially backed the bill, saying it would level the playing field among online and retail stores by ensuring that both pay sales taxes. (Bold added)

Well, not exactly.

There are no shipping and handling charges with brick-and-mortar "retail stores."

So this bill would really allocate to those stores a huge advantage...

120 posted on 04/23/2013 9:22:53 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Never miss an opportunity to increase taxes. I’ll bet my RINOs are in the yea column.

Yep. They're also co-sponsors! I just fired off an email to both of 'em expressing my extreme displeasure.

It's getting harder and harder to email those two because it's difficult not to cuss every other word. I keep having to delete and re-type. LOL!

121 posted on 04/23/2013 9:30:11 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Jean S

this law is incredibly insane


122 posted on 04/23/2013 10:27:09 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jean S

Looks like another administration black market stimulus package.


123 posted on 04/23/2013 11:42:53 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: clearcarbon

Under my plan nobody making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase....Internet sales tax advances after Obama endorsement.


124 posted on 04/23/2013 11:58:29 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Jean S

Fair to whom?

Certainly not customers.

Just what we need: another tax. :(


125 posted on 04/24/2013 12:14:37 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: tflabo

I totally agree, have been trying to do that lately.


126 posted on 04/24/2013 12:58:38 AM PDT by gattaca ("Empty heads are fond of long titles" Old German Proverb.)
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To: Jean S
OBL did say to destroy the US by destroying its economy.
127 posted on 04/24/2013 1:19:24 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: FreedomStar3028

FYI - A “Republican” Senator (Mike Enzi) from Wyoming is pushing this bill.


128 posted on 04/24/2013 2:06:14 AM PDT by III
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To: CodeToad

I agree.


129 posted on 04/24/2013 2:23:12 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Jean S
It would exempt online companies with sales of less than $1 million a year from collecting or paying the sales taxes, and it would add roughly $10.1 billion a year to local government coffers, according to the Congressional Research Service, at a time when most states are looking for any and all fiscal fixes.

Sure seem to be a lot of laws being passed with exemptions. Whatever happened to equal protection under the law?

130 posted on 04/24/2013 2:40:42 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

You forgot N. Korea. Interesting, now that I think about it - not a word about the fat little punk while all this !@##!#@ has been going on.


131 posted on 04/24/2013 2:51:44 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (Let's not be so open-minded that our brains fall out.)
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To: Huebolt
The internet seller does not have to support the INCREDIBLE overhead of a store with cooling, heating, parking, security, sales peeps, etc. ad infinitum

Bing image search - Amazon Warehouses

132 posted on 04/24/2013 3:33:52 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: redgolum
Most people decide to cheat it.

Is that what they're calling refusing the armed robbers demands these days ?

T axed
E nough
A lready

133 posted on 04/24/2013 3:38:59 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Uncle Miltie

Well come onnnn the government has to be supported!


134 posted on 04/24/2013 4:16:39 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: tomkat
Well, it is the law. Sales taxes are settled law, and if you don't pay it you are breaking said law. When you sign your tax return saying that you have filled it out to the best of your knowledge, while knowing that you didn't pay the required sales tax, you are committing a crime.

Am I perfect? Heck no! I don't keep track very well. But I do try to make a good estimate of my internet orders. I have learned from an acquaintance that it is better to do that than explain it on an audit someday.

Personally, I want to end sales taxes and have signed petitions to that effect. But I have little hope of that happening in Iowa. To much money.

135 posted on 04/24/2013 4:32:03 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: CodeToad

“..to have interstate taxation?..”

You are correct, that is why until now, we haven’t.


136 posted on 04/24/2013 4:33:52 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: redgolum

             


It was more the attitude than the act.

With 10,000 tiny cuts each day, they vanquished the Leviathan of the age


not meant to sound preachy, just sayin' . . .

137 posted on 04/24/2013 5:32:05 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Never miss an opportunity to increase taxes. I’ll bet my RINOs are in the yea column.

Heck, my Senator is one of the co-sponsers - we got rid of Blanche Lincoln to install a POS RINO?!?! I am furious about this. Wal Mart wants it, so he co sponsored it.

This is going to provide an incentive to build data centers and distribution centers a stones throw from either the Mexican or Canadian borders, or even moving operations offshore completely. This will have a negative impact on jobs, other than the increased government critters that each state hires to shove compliance audits down everyone's throat.

I self-report my purchases and pay taxes to the state, and always have. I realize that the majority of people don't, but at the same time, I don't pay my local taxes when I drive across the border of MO or OK to purchase anything at a lower tax rate (AR has one of the highest average sales taxes - 8.5%). Brick and mortar retailers cry about people coming in to browse and then purchase on-line, what about all of the people that do research on-line and then purchase at a brick and mortar retailer? Aren't the brick and mortar retailers gaining an advantage based on the assets (web) of web retailers? Amazon stands to make a fortune by selling the compliance software - which they already have completed. They will subcontract the checkout services from other web retailers and turn a handy profit.

138 posted on 04/24/2013 5:35:03 AM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Yes, I was just going to mention Amazon.
Increasingly, we (and millions o others)
have discovered it’s the most reliable and quickest way
to buy practically ANYTHING. Amazon provides a growing source
o$ extra customers to all those small business retailers you mention-—so this bill is just another way o$ PILING TAX UPON TAX, which has been their practice since time immemorial.


139 posted on 04/24/2013 5:49:47 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Jean S

“add roughly $10.1 billion a year to local government coffers,”

Actually it will add many more businesses under $1 million, when you add in Obamacare mandates.


140 posted on 04/24/2013 5:53:33 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: tomkat

It wasn’t just about the tax on tea.

I am all for tax advoidence. I do not support tax fraud.


141 posted on 04/24/2013 6:06:08 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
It wasn’t just about the tax on tea

Correct, hence : It was more the attitude than the act

'Fraud' vs Armed Extortion

decisions, decisions .. !

142 posted on 04/24/2013 6:18:03 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Jean S
well, it's rather expected, just a matter of time i guess.
143 posted on 04/24/2013 6:25:13 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: longtermmemmory

Amazon UK


144 posted on 04/24/2013 6:54:05 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Jean S

First they gotta get this established, then they can worry about making taxes retroactive to when Algore invented it.


145 posted on 04/24/2013 11:13:05 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Jean S

If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat.
If you get too cold I’ll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet.


146 posted on 04/24/2013 1:35:51 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: dadfly

It’s not a Federal revenue bill, so it can be introduced in the Senate.


147 posted on 04/24/2013 6:23:27 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: WVNan

The federal government isn’t getting any of the proposed tax, so if it reduces postal revenue then all it’ll do is move revenue from the Feds to the states... which is a virtuous thing IMHO. Most local governments survive on sales tax. The closer that tax is collected to its eventual destination, the fewer hands it passes through, and the larger the portion that actually passes through the system.


148 posted on 04/25/2013 3:37:01 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: hattend

Hey, now we’ve closed the circle. We have the small business people complaining about the bill even though it won’t apply to them, and the non-small business people complaining because the small business people are being excluded. If we could get both sides in touch with each other, we could create perpetual motion.


149 posted on 04/25/2013 3:52:44 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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