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Turkey's Most Famous Pianist Convicted For "Blasphemous" Tweets
Radikal / WorldCrunch ^ | 4/23/2013 | Ismail Saymaz

Posted on 04/23/2013 4:38:02 PM PDT by markomalley

ISTANBUL – Earlier this month, a Turkish court sentenced world-famous pianist Fazil Say to a ten-month suspended jail sentence for “insulting religious values.”

Say, 43, had tweeted the following verse from 11th century poet Omar Khayyam: “You say that the rivers flow with wine, is Heaven a tavern? You say that you will give every believer two very beautiful women, is Heaven a brothel?”

He also retweeted a missive posted by someone else:  “I am not sure if you have noticed, but where there is a louse, a non-entity, a lowlife, thief or idiot, they are all pro-Allah. Is this a paradox?”

In another tweet, he made fun of the muezzin’s call for prayer: “The muezzin recited the evening prayer in 22 seconds. Prestissimo con fuoco!!! What is your hurry? A lover? Raki?” (raki is a Turkish alcoholic drink flavored with aniseed.)

Hulusi Pur, the judge who handed down the April 15 ruling, said the tweets "do not contribute anything to the public debate but unnecessarily offend the common values of Allah, heaven and hell of the three major religions in the world, and were written to denigrate religious values by creating the opinion that these concepts are meaningless, unwarranted and worthless.”

He added, “the contents of the tweets cannot be considered within the scope of the practice of the freedoms of thought, conscience, religion and expression.”

According to Judge Pur, freedom of expression can be limited under some circumstances according to the second article of the European Convention on Human Rights. He referred to three past verdicts of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) to support the justification of his verdict, including a 1995 ruling that Turkish authorities did not violate freedom of expression by convicting a book publisher who'd printed insults against Allah, Islam, the Prophet and the Koran.

Article 216(3) of the Turkish Criminal Code states: "Any person who openly denigrates the religious beliefs of a group shall be punished with imprisonment from six months to one year if the act is conducive to disrupting the public peace.”

Between heaven and hell

The judge said that the possibility that these tweets could disrupt public peace incorporated a virtual threat and the court did not have to wait for that threat to become a fact before sentencing.

The guilty verdict complies both domestic and international legal proceedings, Judge Pur argued, since concepts like heaven and hell are considered holy in Islam, Christianity and Judaism. Important values were mocked and demeaned and believers were openly insulted by being called a louse, a non-entity, a lowlife, thief or idiot” while heaven was likened to a “tavern” and a “brothel”, stated the judge.

Say’s lawyer Meltem Akyol said her client did not write the incriminating tweets, only retweeted them, and that there was “no intentional act of denigration or mockery.”

Since the verdict was issued, columnists from the Turkish press have shown the wide range of opinions on such a hot-button subject, even though the majority of observers argued that Say deserved to be punished for insulting religious values.

The commentary included:

*Ahmet Kekeç from the Daily Star said although the tweets were “problematic, vulgar and rude,” Say should not be convicted for them.

*Berat Özipek, also from the Daily Star, said he was hurt by Say’s tweets but added: “However, I have no intention of sacrificing the freedom of expression because I was hurt.”

*Ali Ä°hsan KarahasanoÄŸlu from daily newspaper Yeni Akit said Say was guilty, and that he should have gotten a harsher punishment.

*Davut Åžahin of the Milli Gazete said: “I have no doubt that he would have received a higher penalty in another country.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: blasphemy; turkeypianist
A note: Radikal is considered a left-wing newspaper over in Turkey (their version of the UK's Guardian).

Comment: I guess this guy pissed Sultan Erdoğan off badly. Heh.

1 posted on 04/23/2013 4:38:02 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

The days of the military being Kemalist watchdogs are long gone.

Seriously, they executed presidents for far less attempts at introducing Islamism.


2 posted on 04/23/2013 4:40:39 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: markomalley

democrats/liberals love Islam because they admire how Islam takes away individual rights and freedom and so easily cracks down on individuals and free speech. Islam is a tool to control the masses same as socialism/government . so you see that is the main belief in democrats’ religion statism/socialism that the government is all power and that the individual has no right , no freedom , so each person is a slave.


3 posted on 04/23/2013 4:45:36 PM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: markomalley

And so Turkey has officially withdrawn itself from the ranks of civilized nations.


4 posted on 04/23/2013 4:48:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Shadow44

Who would have thought that cutthroats were so sensitive.


5 posted on 04/23/2013 4:49:14 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: markomalley

Mohammed was a child rapist.


6 posted on 04/23/2013 5:07:03 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: markomalley
Fazil Say, 43, had tweeted the following verse from 11th century poet Omar Khayyam: “You say that the rivers flow with wine, is Heaven a tavern? You say that you will give every believer two very beautiful women, is Heaven a brothel?” He also retweeted a missive posted by someone else: “I am not sure if you have noticed, but where there is a louse, a non-entity, a lowlife, thief or idiot, they are all pro-Allah. Is this a paradox?”

What is wrong with these comments???? In another tweet, he made fun of the muezzin’s call for prayer: “The muezzin recited the evening prayer in 22 seconds. Prestissimo con fuoco!!! What is your hurry? A lover? Raki?” (raki is a Turkish alcoholic drink flavored with aniseed.)

7 posted on 04/23/2013 5:08:41 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: markomalley
Article 216(3) of the Turkish Criminal Code states: "Any person who openly denigrates the religious beliefs of a group shall be punished with imprisonment from six months to one year if the act is conducive to disrupting the public peace.”

Cleverly worded.

An insult against Islam is guaranteed to disrupt the public peace, and is therefore actionable.

Christians can be insulted, and in a Muslim country they will not dare protest, so therefore the public peace is not violated, and the insult is therefore not actionable.

8 posted on 04/23/2013 5:21:26 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Mohammed was a child rapist.

The future doesn't belong to you!

- B. Hussein Obama

9 posted on 04/23/2013 6:26:46 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: markomalley; Revolting cat!

“Liberace was a sissy! #justtruthyall”


10 posted on 04/23/2013 6:55:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

“I heart John Tesh!”


11 posted on 04/23/2013 6:58:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!
What's not to love? Although this adspace is kinda cramped.


12 posted on 04/23/2013 7:01:01 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

13 posted on 04/23/2013 7:02:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: a fool in paradise
"this adspace is kinda cramped"

Well played, sir!
14 posted on 04/24/2013 2:50:52 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Surf music is the naked truth)
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