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Glenn Beck conspiracy theory: What's his evidence?
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 4/24/2013 | Peter Grier

Posted on 04/24/2013 4:13:13 PM PDT by iowamark

Glenn Beck has spent lots of time in recent days alleging that the Boston Marathon bombing was carried out by a conspiracy that revolved around a shadowy Saudi national questioned by police in a Boston hospital in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy.

OK, is he just winging it here, or does the ex-Fox, now-independent radio and Internet video host have any real evidence for this charge?

He says he does, unsurprisingly. On his show Wednesday morning Mr. Beck produced a document that he claimed is an official US “event report” showing that the Saudi in question is a bad, bad man who was on a no-fly list and already subject to visa revocation.

What he didn’t mention is that Fox News reporter Bret Baier has already looked into this whole alleged Saudi conspiracy, including the document Beck deemed so revealing, and concluded that there was no there there, to paraphrase writer Gertrude Stein’s jibe about Oakland.

It’s “false and misleading” to use the internal document on the Saudi’s immigration status as evidence of the man’s involvement in the bombings, according to US officials quoted by Mr. Baier in a Fox video blog on April 23.

“The FBI says the Saudi [in question] was just a victim of the terrorist attack,” said Baier...

But Bret Baier had this piece of paper already. On Tuesday, he talked with US officials about it, and got a different story.

First off, Baier said the wording of the paper was indeed somewhat dire.

“Anyone looking at this would say this is a bad guy, this means they had a lot of stuff on this guy,” he said.

But officials told him it was simply an automatic piece of customs paperwork triggered when police went to question the Saudi in the hours after the bombing...

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KEYWORDS: beck; conspiracies; glennbeck; talkradio
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1 posted on 04/24/2013 4:13:13 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Conspiracy theories don’t need “evidence”


2 posted on 04/24/2013 4:14:39 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: iowamark

The conspiracy is the handling of the Saudi.


3 posted on 04/24/2013 4:16:05 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; AllAmericanGirl44; onyx; maggief

“Anyone looking at this would say this is a bad guy, this means they had a lot of stuff on this guy,” he said.

But officials told him it was simply an automatic piece of customs paperwork triggered when police went to question the Saudi in the hours after the bombing...

Yes Brett they are lying . Duh


4 posted on 04/24/2013 4:16:37 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: iowamark

If something is out there to be found, Bret Baier isn’t going to be the one to find it.

I’m trying really hard to think of all the things Bret has exposed, brought to light, unearthed...and nothing at all comes to mind.


5 posted on 04/24/2013 4:18:12 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Paladin2

Glenn Beck presented info on Monday and asked for an explanation. He blew up that explanation this morning, WITH documentation, proving that Napolitano led to a House committee. He dared people to pick his info apart, and then he’ll blow them up again. Glenn Beck has the goods and he’s got people inside helping him.


6 posted on 04/24/2013 4:19:27 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: iowamark
To make sure he did not somehow get on an airplane before they could talk to him, they put him on a no-fly list. That automatically meant he was subject to visa revocation. The other language, including the reference to an “event,” followed from that.

So why didn't they just say that from the beginning?

7 posted on 04/24/2013 4:21:08 PM PDT by marron
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To: iowamark
What I want to know is WHO altered or changed the "212, 3B File" on Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi ?

Read more from the Blaze's report Janet Napolitano’s Major Admission: Saudi Student Was Put on Watchlist.
Click on it.
8 posted on 04/24/2013 4:21:53 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: cumbo78
Glenn Beck presented info on Monday and asked for an explanation. He blew up that explanation this morning, WITH documentation, proving that Napolitano led to a House committee. He dared people to pick his info apart, and then he’ll blow them up again. Glenn Beck has the goods and he’s got people inside helping him.

OK, then, let's see what he has to say about this.

9 posted on 04/24/2013 4:22:50 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: marron

They don’t want to admit mistakes and assume the press will bury the story if they just deny everything.


10 posted on 04/24/2013 4:23:12 PM PDT by x
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To: Paladin2
The conspiracy is the handling of the Saudi

The whole thing is very suspicious.

11 posted on 04/24/2013 4:23:30 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: iowamark

>>>It’s “false and misleading” to use the internal document on the Saudi’s immigration status as evidence of the man’s involvement in the bombings, according to US officials<<<

Wait, What?


12 posted on 04/24/2013 4:24:13 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: iowamark

             

13 posted on 04/24/2013 4:24:31 PM PDT by tomkat ( nationalis caterva fornicari in processus)
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To: crosslink

I wish, just one time, that some reporter would have the baseball’s to ask obama who does he pray to at night.


14 posted on 04/24/2013 4:24:58 PM PDT by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: reagandemocrat

Explain the Saudi’s burned hands. I have yet to hear ANY explanation of same.


15 posted on 04/24/2013 4:25:15 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: chris37
If something is out there to be found, Bret Baier isn’t going to be the one to find it.

Sad, but true. He's kinda like that weather reader girl on the Weather Channel now who has no meteorological education or experience, but looks good on camera reading the weather report. They didn't hire her to be a meteorologist.

16 posted on 04/24/2013 4:25:57 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: crosslink; iowamark

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/041813-652517-boston-bombing-timeline-suggests-obama-saudi-coverup.htm

April 15: Saudi college student Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi is seen near the Boston marathon finish line with two other Saudis. He’s tackled after fleeing the scene of one of the bombings. Authorities question him.

April 15: FBI agents search Alharbi’s apartment, leave with bags of evidence. He’s described as a “person of interest” in attacks.

April 16: Secretary of State John Kerry secretly meets with the Saudi foreign minister, locking out reporters who initially were told the meeting would be open.

April 16: Saudi ambassador phones several papers and insists neither Alharbi nor any Saudi nationals are involved in the bombings. Saudi officials visit the well-connected Alharbi at a Boston hospital.

April 17: Officials clear Alharbi, who’s reportedly related to al-Qaida Gitmo detainees, as a person of interest.

April 17: FBI ID from photos and videos two Mideast-looking men with bags scouting scene of bombings and circulate them among law enforcement. AP, CNN and even Boston Globe report one arrest has been made. CNN describes suspect as “dark-skinned male.” Media swarm Boston courthouse for arraignment.

April 17: Obama has sudden unscheduled meeting with the Saudi foreign minister at White House.

April 17: Justice Dept. scolds CNN for arrest report. FBI cancels press conference. Courthouse bomb scare.

April 17: Terror expert Steve Emerson reports ICE has been ordered to “deport” Alharbi for “national security” reasons, out of reach of FBI questioning.

April 18: Napolitano denies Alharbi will be deported.

(April 18: Obamas Visit Boston Marathon Bombing Victims At Hospitals)


17 posted on 04/24/2013 4:26:03 PM PDT by maggief
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To: iowamark

Isn’t Fox News partially owned by a Saudi?


18 posted on 04/24/2013 4:26:52 PM PDT by woofer2425 (Obama inhales immensely!)
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To: NoGrayZone
Well, if yer not gonna be able to sleep anyway, here's another one to hammer away on   :^)
19 posted on 04/24/2013 4:27:10 PM PDT by tomkat ( nationalis caterva fornicari in processus)
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To: iowamark
Sometimes you need some insurance so you don't turn up like Breitbart. He said that he had sent much information to other broadcasters for them to check out and even to break the story if they wanted. If it was phony the other broadcasters would have spoken up. Beck has come up with lots of stuff in the past on Soros and UN Agenda 21 so I have no doubt he has enough information to cover himself and he probably has stuff that he will never release.
20 posted on 04/24/2013 4:27:24 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: iowamark

Just tell me why a Saudi student was visiting the White House and why Michelle visited him.


21 posted on 04/24/2013 4:27:33 PM PDT by tiki
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To: GBA

Yep. Outside of reading a teleprompter, he is completely useless.


22 posted on 04/24/2013 4:28:27 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: reagandemocrat

This is the plan dispute something that is not what is being alleged , Glenn is saying the documents prove he is a terror suspect and was before he arrived because this document shows two incidents. Trying to confuse the obtuse reporters and succeeding.


23 posted on 04/24/2013 4:30:04 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: tomkat

Ewww Bret. I don’t watch Fox anymore since the Saudi purchased it and it went left.

What keeps me up at night is the real stuff.


24 posted on 04/24/2013 4:31:02 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: iowamark

I want to see Beck’s “evidence”, so far he is not reporting items that haven’t been around before he released this ‘new’ stuff.
So either he is slow, and missing the time line or it’s not new........


25 posted on 04/24/2013 4:31:03 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: iowamark

Just read article and sadly they seem to be saying Beck is wrong and try to state why with an error.

From what I remember Beck said that first he (The Saudi man) had an expired visa and then Beck found out and stated the visa was good until (I Believe) Nov 2016.....the article seems to totally miss that point when trying to claim it’s a conspiracy theory and states Beck is wrong because he said the Visa is expired........


26 posted on 04/24/2013 4:31:20 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: iowamark

I think this kid was the financier. He was supposed to be in Ohio, but he’s spending a LOT of time in Boston.


27 posted on 04/24/2013 4:31:54 PM PDT by struggle
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To: crosslink

Here is the problem. the bombing was only a week ago. obama met with the saudi foreign minister and they already cleared the guy and got him out of the country. the guy attended the bombers’ mosque. there also is this Misha who converted one bomber to radical islam and appears to be missing.

Napolitano did backflips to avoid answering questions about the Saudi under oath.

A bit quick of the authorities to clear and deport someone within a few days of a major terrorist attack?

consider how they got it wrong - repeatedly - on the older bomber. would you be clearing people before the bomb dust even settled?


28 posted on 04/24/2013 4:32:21 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Paladin2
Explain the Saudi’s burned hands. I have yet to hear ANY explanation of same.

The "burned hands" issue is one of those rumors that popped up in the days after the bombing (when there were all sorts of rumors flying around), and people seem to have latched on to it, despite a lack of evidence. It just doesnt make sense:

1) The pictures of the Saudi taken in the days after the bombing show no burns on his hands. Burns, particularly severe burns, don't heal that quickly;

2) In the pictures, he had an IV in his hand. If his hands were, in fact, burned, the medical staff would have inserted the IV elsewhere; and

3) What would "burned hands" even prove? That he was so close to the bomb--holding it, perhaps--that his hands were burned? Because, if he was close enough to the bomb that his hands were burned from the blast, he likely wouldn't have survived the blast, and even if he did, there would have been a whole lot of other damage in the pictures (shrapnel, etc.)

29 posted on 04/24/2013 4:33:35 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: iowamark; cripplecreek; NoGrayZone
We are over the Target!

Woodward and Bernstein should have called Nixon and checked with him first.

30 posted on 04/24/2013 4:33:53 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: iowamark

Fascinating! Are they suggesting that Bret and Fox used their resources to get to the truth of this story?

So damn predictable and honestly, so very sad at the same time.

I wonder, those who are risking everything to come forward with this information, they must just be doing this for the thrill, right?

Once one understands how the cass sunsteens of the world operate, and distance themselves enough to see, hear and do their own critical thinking, it becomes so clear how this sick game is played.

It would aid Bret to take a moment to get ALL the facts vs. the ones he is being fed by DHS et al. Which btw, Bret wasn’t reporting, he was reading talking points.

There WAS a file in place for the lil saudi BEFORE the boston bombing -

Wonder where the 15K foreign students are wandering around? Of the 75K here, 15K have NOT reported to their stated destinations. Where the heck are they???


31 posted on 04/24/2013 4:34:58 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: tiki
Just tell me why a Saudi student was visiting the White House

According to the visitor logs, all but one of the visits listed were for "group tours."

and why Michelle visited him.

She visited victims of the bombing in two Boston-area hospitals, including the one where the Saudi was being treated. There are pictures of her visiting other patients as well.

32 posted on 04/24/2013 4:36:00 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: crosslink

The media reminds me of our stupid government..lol. Government asks the terrorists..are you a terrorist? No...case closed. Media asks the government if there could have been failures and or complicity in gov. agencies..no..case closed.

Lol..glad we have Free Republic and a separate conservative media out there digging.


33 posted on 04/24/2013 4:36:17 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Williams
A bit quick of the authorities to clear and deport someone within a few days of a major terrorist attack?

Any evidence that he's actually been deported?

34 posted on 04/24/2013 4:37:13 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: crosslink
“Anyone looking at this would say this is a bad guy, this means they had a lot of stuff on this guy,” he said.

That was Brett's explanation for the 212 3b status which is exactly how Glenn Beck read the meaning of that. In his next sentence Brett says "all of that was triggered by being put on the 'no fly list' after the bombing." That doesn't make sense. Beck also has said that there was a previous event file made on Alharbi.

35 posted on 04/24/2013 4:37:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Paladin2

His burned hands is due to him being a victim of the bombing.

Hello, get with the program or you will become soylent green!


36 posted on 04/24/2013 4:41:06 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
I meant this thread, not Baier .. as in: here's another thread to keep track of .. lol

But seriously, driving yourself into the ground with lack of sleep won't do our cause the least bit of good.

I find one Tylenol PM (or generic equivalent) quite helpful on sleepless nights.

/uncle tom

37 posted on 04/24/2013 4:41:07 PM PDT by tomkat ( nationalis caterva fornicari in processus)
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To: crosslink

My take as well.

I mean, assuming arguendo that Glenn is alleging that the document tends to tie the Saudi to the bombing (which he doesn’t)— the U.S. government says it’s “false and misleading” to use IT’S OWN document. Good grief.


38 posted on 04/24/2013 4:41:15 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
So, what injuries did he have that required hospitalization and a Wookie visit?

The pics showed at least one bandaged hand and nothing else.

39 posted on 04/24/2013 4:41:53 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: woofer2425

That Saudi purchased just over a majority of Fox. Hence it’s now left turn.


40 posted on 04/24/2013 4:42:34 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: iowamark

It’s just a pure coincidence that the Saudi terrorist-list guy just HAPPENED to be in the blast radius of the Boston bomb. Bad luck. Happens all the time.

And it was just a pure coincidence that the Saudi ambassador did an uber-rare unscheduled emergency “walk by” at the White House to see Obama.

Pure coincidence.

So, where is Al-Harbi?


41 posted on 04/24/2013 4:42:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: crosslink

Which isn’t difficult to do, reporters are lazy today and not interested in uncovering details and truth.

I can imagine why, they are under constant threat from this sicko admin that anyone who goes against the king will be squashed.

What a sick and sad system we are fighting.

Until people get good and mad and demand answers, this dumb game of framing others as loons, will carry on.


42 posted on 04/24/2013 4:43:12 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: svcw

Hope you have 2 hours to understand.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3011908/posts


43 posted on 04/24/2013 4:44:50 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: iowamark
Where are the guys who tackled the Saudi?!

How come no one has heard from them?

44 posted on 04/24/2013 4:45:26 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: reagandemocrat

Begs the question: How many other “false and misleading’ government documents are out there?


45 posted on 04/24/2013 4:46:00 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Paladin2

46 posted on 04/24/2013 4:46:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Paladin2
So, what injuries did he have that required hospitalization and a Wookie visit?

The pics showed at least one bandaged hand and nothing else.

I have no idea what his injuries were. He was, by all accounts, in the vicinity of the bombs, so it could've been anything - shrapnel wounds, TBI, etc. With HIPAA, his medical records are not publicly available. The "bandage" on his hand appears to be an IV site.

I'll ask again - what would him having burned hands even prove?

47 posted on 04/24/2013 4:46:28 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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But officials told him it was simply an automatic piece of customs paperwork triggered when police went to question the Saudi in the hours after the bombing...

Except there was already an outstanding "event" file.

48 posted on 04/24/2013 4:47:11 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: reagandemocrat
Begs the question: How many other “false and misleading’ government documents are out there?

All of them. lol

49 posted on 04/24/2013 4:48:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: NoGrayZone

So, is this evidence new, or is it what has been around for awhile, that was my question.
As it stands now I have not read anything from Beck, the last few days, that I had not already read previously.


50 posted on 04/24/2013 4:50:55 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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