Skip to comments.Something Rotten in the Boy Scouts
Posted on 04/26/2013 1:43:57 PM PDT by NYer
Theres deception going on in the front office of the Boy Scouts. It includes deliberate misrepresentation of polling data, and threats to pack an upcoming meeting with anonymous and unqualified voters so that the Boy Scout policy on homosexuality gets forced on the majority of Scouts and parents who dont want it.
The Boy Scouts are considering changing their policy of not allowing open homosexuality in either their Scout or leadership ranks. The policy has placed the Boy Scouts in the buzz saw of the zeitgeist and up until recently they have resisted. There are some weak-kneed leaders who want to throw over the policy and appear willing to violate the Scout Law to do it.
The Scout front office released the result of a national survey and listening process that purported to show that the Scoutsboys, parents, leaders and donorsfavor a change in the policy. The Boy Scouts say the process reveals great changes in attitudes and that a majority of those at all levels of Scouting tend to agree that youth should not be denied the benefits of Scouting.
This was dutifully and even triumphantly reported in the mainstream press. The only problem is the news reports were wrong. And the news reports were wrong because the Boy Scouts misrepresented the results. One close observer of the Boy Scouts calls the poll a pack of lies.
Do Scouting parents want to overhaul the policy and allow open homosexuality in the Scouts? The Executive Summary of the Poll says, yes, but the numbers say no. Fifty percent of Cub Scout parents support the current restrictive policy while 45% oppose it. A whopping 61% of Boy Scout parents support the current policy.
How did Boy Scout leadership get anywhere near the assertion that a majority of those in Scouting support homosexuality in Scouting? Part of what they did was what is known as a push-poll, a questionnaire designed not to elicit an accurate opinion but one designed to change opinions.
Heres the most sympathetic scenario presented to the respondents: Tom started in the program as a Tiger Cub and finished every requirement for the Eagle Scout award at 16 years of age. At his board of review Tom reveals he is gay. Is it acceptable or unacceptable for the review board to deny his Eagle Scout award based on that admission?
Read this way, you may conclude that it is not right or just to deny Tom his award. Even so, the numbers show that a majority of parents still continue to support the current policy.
What is going on here? Deception, thats what. There is a small group on the Executive Committee of the Boy Scouts who want this policy to change. What they face is a membership that largely opposes the measure. So, they try to get their way by lying about a poll. But there is more deception than that.
The Executive Board took up the issue a few months ago and after a tsunami of protest punted the issue to a vote of their National Council set to take place on May 20th. There are usually 1400 voting members of this body who qualify through strict criteria. Insiders have been told there may be an additional 2,000 voting members at the upcoming meeting. Who are they? The Boy Scouts leaders arent telling. Are they trying to pack the meeting? It sure looks that way.
A group of Scouting parents have grown alarmed over these deceptive practices and have hired not one but two lawyers to represent their interests and not just their interests but the interest of fairness and making sure the Boy Scout Executive Committee sticks to their own by-laws that are very clear about who can vote. There are legal issues here and this whole process could end up on court.
On the eve of the vote the Executive Committee will make a presentation on this issue to the National Council. The Executive Committee is the group driving this change and is the group presenting these deceptive numbers. You can be sure in that meeting there will be no presentation from supporters of the current policy, and you can be sure the Executive committee will continue to spin their deceptive tale about how most of Scouting is fine with open homosexuality in the program.
All this goes to show once more the lengths of deception that some will go to advance an agenda that is offensive to most Americans. They cannot win an up or down vote so they lie about a poll. They cannot convince regular people so they have to pack the meeting.
The number one item in the Boy Scout law is to be trustworthy. The process ought to be stopped and there ought to be a housecleaning and all these untrustworthy guys should get the boot.
And there could be more financial damage to come, with jurors set to go back to court next week to decide whether the Scouts must pay up to $25 million in punitive damages.
The verdict delivered Tuesday by a Portland jury was based partly on the introduction as evidence of more than 1,000 so-called "perversion files" secretly kept by the Boy Scouts of America at the group's national headquarters from 1965 to mid-1984.
If the Boy Scouts go gay, will they be renamed The “Rump Rangers”?
and it will continure to go on as usual because Christian parents won’t take a stand and remove their children from the group, just like with the girl scouts
Name them and expel them.
The leadership has been infiltrated by Nambla symps.
The fight has just begun. The Boy Scouts will eventually be a farm for pedos.
This is so easy to combat: just understand that the organization has been taken over by an enemy invasion and shut the entire kit and caboodle the f**k down. Form new local ad hoc organizations that don’t rely on corporate money. Rough it for a while.
Vote your ballot, vote your wallet, vote your feet
Exactly. If you want to see the upshot of allowing gay scoutmasters, look no further than the problems the Catholic church has faced with the antics of the pederast priests.
Rule One: No Poofters!
Nobody is prevented from being a Scout because they’re homosexual. What prevents them from being Scouts is the ludicrous demand that everybody else “celebrate” their OPEN, BLATANT faggotry.
If they keep their sexual affairs private, as they should, there wouldn’t be an issue. The Scout in the story simply HAD TO announce he was “gay”.
No he didn’t. He did so because he was demanding others accept, and “celebrate” his perversion.
And that he has NO right to whatsoever.
Rough it for a while. How much money can they need to sell themselves and ruin an American institution which is formative for men. Football will go the same way.
They need to stop worrying about money.
Not money but “the love of money is the root of all evil”.
1 Timothy 6:10 RSV
Revised Standard Version
For the love of money is the root of all evils; it is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced their hearts with many pangs.
1 Timothy 6:10 NIV
New International Version
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
(Searching around on my cluttered desk, looking for the dern clue...)
Somebody should wrap BP’s coffin in copper wire and furnish energy to the world.
These “leaders” are doing a numbers game. How much money will they lose if they maintain the status quo vs how much money they will lose if they allow gays in scouting.
In other words, which decision is most likely going to pay for their executive salaries and perks? :(
This is the highest consideration.
Part of the answer to your question here. It’s Annual Meeting Season: Boy Scout Supporters Fight Back!
Even though we've lost some of the stalwart leaders of the past, there are still enough strength in the conservative seminaries and pastors who are ready and willing to fight the good fight again, when and if necessary no matter how many other denominations grab their ankles and cave!
We know we fight not against princes nor principalities but against the forces of darkness that hate Christ and hate His commandments against sin.
2. No member of the faculty is to maltreat the "Abos" in any way whatsoever - if there's anyone watching.
3. No poofters.
4. I don't want to catch anyone not drinking in their room after lights out.
5. No poofters.
6. There is NO! . . . rule six.
7. No poofters.