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Analysis - No good military options for U.S. in Syria
Reuters ^ | 4-27-2013 | Phil Stewart and Peter Apps

Posted on 04/27/2013 6:20:01 PM PDT by haffast

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Despite President Barack Obama's pledge that Syria's use of chemical weapons is a "game changer" for the United States, he is unlikely to turn to military options quickly and would want allies joining him in any intervention.

Possible military choices range from limited one-off missile strikes from ships - one of the less complicated scenarios - to bolder operations like carving out no-fly safe zones.

One of the most politically unpalatable possibilities envisions sending tens of thousands of U.S. forces to help secure Syrian chemical weapons.

Obama has so far opposed limited steps, like arming anti-government rebels, but pressure to deepen U.S. involvement in Syria's civil war has grown since Thursday's White House announcement that President Bashar al-Assad likely used chemical weapons.

After fighting wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Pentagon is wary of U.S. involvement in Syria. The president's top uniformed military adviser, General Martin Dempsey, said last month he could not see a U.S. military option with an "understandable outcome" there.

"There's a lot of analysis to be done before reaching any major decisions that would push U.S. policy more in the direction of military options," a senior U.S. official told Reuters.

That caution is understandable, given the experience of Iraq where the United States went to war based on bad intelligence about weapons of mass destruction. The Pentagon has made repeated warnings of the enormous risks and limitations of using American military might in Syria's civil war.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; gas; hagel; israel; obama; oil; peaceandsecurity; pipelines; waronterror
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To: haffast

Better to save our own military strength and materiel for work in North Korea or Iran.


21 posted on 04/27/2013 7:19:05 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Bump.


22 posted on 04/27/2013 7:20:56 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: JaguarXKE

0Bamma’s a coward! Nuff said!


23 posted on 04/27/2013 7:21:58 PM PDT by Ranger Warrior ("To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: jonrick46
The pipeline connecting Israeli tycoons, Mideast politicians and daily consumers
By Avi Bar-Eli | Mar.31, 2013 | 12:45 AM
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/the-pipeline-connecting-israeli-tycoons-mideast-politicians-and-daily-consumers.premium-1.512687

The Geopolitics of Israel’s Offshore Gas Reserves
Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs ^ | 4-3-2013 | David Wurmser
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3005392/posts




24 posted on 04/27/2013 7:27:05 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast
Interesting reads, but consider the sources:

War-Gaming the Mullahs
The U.S. weighs the price of a pre-emptive strike
Newsweek 2004
http://www.911jobforums.com/f66/war-gaming-mullahs-35149-print/

If U.S. Troops Fight WWIII, Who Fights the Coming American Civil War?
Posted on September 27, 2012
By Dominique de Kevelioc de Bailleul
http://survivalistinvestor.com/if-u-s-troops-fight-wwiii-who-fights-the-coming-american-civil-war/31681

25 posted on 04/27/2013 7:33:14 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast

If the Chief Panty Waist had responded when they crossed the first “red line”, it would have been simple.

We told them not to enter the storage location.

We should have had a MOAB on standby and used it when they entered the compound.

But....that was just before the election, you see.......


26 posted on 04/27/2013 7:46:45 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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Help the Syrian Christians with refugee visas, most to Europe, then to Australia , USA, Canada. Let the rest have at it. Asad’s crowd is no worse than the rest. The whole region is not worth the blood of one GI.


27 posted on 04/27/2013 7:47:30 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: jonrick46
Israel and the US don't want the competition.

Iran-Syria Gas Pipe to Run Through Iraq
By Chana Ya'ar - 2/20/2013, 3:00 PM

"Iraq has approved plans to run a natural gas pipeline through its territory from Iran to Syria."

U.S. brushes off Iran-Iraq-Syria gas line
Nov. 20, 2012 at 7:26 AM
excerpted:

"The U.S. government said plans by Iran to build a natural gas pipeline through Iraq to Syria may run into problems with economic sanctions."

"Victoria Nuland, a spokeswoman for the U.S. State Department, brushed off the report, saying Washington has seen similar reports on the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline "six or seven or 10 or 15 times before, and it never seems to materialize."

"I would simply say that the construction of any kind of an Iranian-Syrian pipeline could potentially raise sanctions issues under U.S. law on either Iran or Syria, including for international entities who might decide to participate in it either by financing or by construction," she said.
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2012/11/20/US-brushes-off-Iran-Iraq-Syria-gas-line/UPI-36621353414380/#ixzz2RRMiBd8v

The longer the US and Israel can delay and disrupt Syrian to Iran pipeline, the closer Israel will be to having their natural gas and oil production online with sales to Europe (2015-16?).

Israel will price their oil in USD like our other "friends" in the region, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait etc, keeping the "Petro-Dollar" system afloat. A win-win for the US. Plus we can sell 'em stuff. Everybody happy happy. (Except maybe the Russians and China)

28 posted on 04/27/2013 7:53:51 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast
Correction:

Iran-Syria Gas Pipe to Run Through Iraq
By Chana Ya'ar - 2/20/2013, 3:00 PM

"Iraq has approved plans to run a natural gas pipeline through its territory from Iran to Syria."
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/165466#.UXlfiUp1pkg

29 posted on 04/27/2013 7:59:10 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: G Larry

Timing is everything! (Mine sucks)


30 posted on 04/27/2013 8:01:13 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: bigheadfred

Say what you will about Putin , but he is a MAN , unlike that poser in the WH .


31 posted on 04/27/2013 8:06:11 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: haffast
Israel Grants First Golan Heights Oil Drilling License To Powerful US Company
Business Insider ^ | Feb. 22, 2013, 2:45 PM | Michael Kelley
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2990546/posts?page=1


32 posted on 04/27/2013 8:08:45 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast
One of the worst results is The Syrian rebellion has spilled into Iraq. The Syrian rebellion has caused 120,000 Syrian refugees to enter Iraq in the Kurdistan Region. The Sunni-led civil war against the Syrian government is now spilling into Iraq. It is causing a strong Shia reaction, not only against the Syrian Sunnis but also against the Iraqi Sunnis. So far the Iraqi government is controlling this upheaval. However, should Iran capitalize on the situation and further destabilize Iraq for their purposes, there will be consequences that will affect the entire region.

The pipeline situation may be a good motivation for Iran to acquire Iraqi soil in the Kurdistan Region (see map below). Iran needs new access to oil energy. But, it is not the only motivation. I can see Iran expanding its power through northern Iraq through Syria, to the Mediterranean for port access. That would give Iran military access for more sinister efforts.


33 posted on 04/27/2013 9:08:43 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

Remember the good old days when a President couldn’t commit US military forces without the prior consent of the people’s representatives in the Congress?

Quaint idea, that...


34 posted on 04/27/2013 10:11:42 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: bigheadfred

...”obama is afraid of Putin”....

You can say that again!..and Putin knows it.


35 posted on 04/28/2013 12:10:41 AM PDT by caww
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To: ClearCase_guy

Here’s the one truism, the Marxist Media in all areas is lying, 100% guaranteed. The entire Political establishment is 100% fraud. Don’t vote it only encourages them.


36 posted on 04/28/2013 4:53:04 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: jonrick46
The pipeline situation may be a good motivation for Iran to acquire Iraqi soil in the Kurdistan Region (see map below). Iran needs new access to oil energy. But, it is not the only motivation. I can see Iran expanding its power through northern Iraq through Syria, to the Mediterranean for port access. That would give Iran military access for more sinister efforts.

I'm not a ME expert, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn last night.

Iran is not "seeking access to oil energy", it wants to continue selling the oil and natural gas it has to Europe.

The US and its allies (Europe) consider Iran a state supporter of terrorism and has applied economic sanctions on them to choke the ever loving nuclear crap out of them. Iran's economy is a mess. Their people are suffering.

Until Iran gives up the nukes, Europe's not buying, and not a market for Iran's oil. Iran has no need for a pipeline right now, and no funds to build it.

The uses and limits of Iran sanctions By David Frum, CNN Contributor
updated 10:35 AM EDT, Mon October 15, 2012
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/opinion/frum-iran-sanctions

A History Of U.S. Sanctions Against Iran
January 17, 2012
http://usforeignpolicy.about.com/od/alliesenemies/a/A-History-Of-U-S-Sanctions-Against-Iran.htm

Israel is our largest export market in the region and our closest ally. We'll $ide with them and promote the development of their newly found natural ga$/oil wealth.

37 posted on 04/28/2013 5:53:57 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: driftdiver

“Yes there is a good military option, keep our military out of Syria.”

May the fleas of a thousand dogs be upon you. You just stole what I was going to say. Even better if they’re using cehmical weaons on each other. The Muzzies will just come to hate each other more than before and keep on killing each other. All that does is make us safer.


38 posted on 04/28/2013 6:51:57 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: yldstrk

It’s not like Muslims are killing Christians over there. What the hell is the hurry to stop one of Israel’s neighbors from destroying itself?


39 posted on 04/28/2013 6:53:55 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: haffast

Iran’s electricity production is growing about eight percent a year. It has struggled to keep up with demand and has used that problem to justify its nuclear program. It does have a large amount of oil and natural gas, but would rather sell it to other countries. So, a pipeline would make sense for such exports. My idea that the pipeline would bring oil and natural gas into Iran was mistaken.

Iran says it wants to make use of nuclear technology for electricity. The Iranian government argues that seven gigawatts of nuclear power generation would free up 190 million barrels per year of oil, equivalent to 13 percent of the country’s current production, or $7 billion annually (depending on what the market price is). However, if Iran would put more investment in its fossil fuel resources, it would meet its energy needs as well as its export supply in a way that is more economical than a reliance on nuclear energy. Also, Iran does not calculate the fact of its limited Uranium capacity. It will soon run out of Uranium and will need to import enough to meet its needs.

I now see the pipeline running through Iraq and into Syria as a strategic component to Iran’s future energy market.


40 posted on 04/28/2013 7:33:09 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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