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Memo to the South: Go Ahead, Secede Already!
The Daily Beast ^ | April 30, 2013 | Lee Siegel

Posted on 04/30/2013 7:00:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s face it—on nearly every important issue, from gun control to immigration to gay marriage, red states are holding America back. Lee Siegel on why the South should get the hell out of the union.

Let’s not be fooled by all the bipartisan rhetoric that has been streaming out of the GOP since Romney’s self-destruction. Hundreds of thousands of petitioners in a handful of red states still want to secede? Well, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

A solid block of Southern states continues to refuse to expand Medicaid, thus squashing one of the linchpins of the president’s health-care reform. The South will likely be the last and most stubborn battleground in the fight for gay marriage. Gun control? The more the two sides seem to get cozier with each other, the faster gun-control legislation gets watered down—and more and more red states are passing laws making it legal to carry a concealed weapon. As for immigration, the red states seem to be relaxing their anti-immigrant fervor, but nothing approaching new legislation is even on the horizon.

The sad truth is that “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” can only be achieved at this point if the nation is split in half. Far from being fanciful or fanatical, the proponents of secession have a stronger grasp of political reality than just about anyone else. In fact, there are serious reasons why the North itself should take the lead in a secessionist movement.

Just think what America would look like without its mostly Southern states. (We could retain “America”: they could call themselves “Smith & Wesson” or “Coca-Cola” or something like that.) Universal health care. No guns. Strong unions. A humane minimum wage....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; catholics; cwii; democrats; dixie; guncontrol; mittromney; mormons; noachide; seccesion; secede; secondamendment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Make the ‘58 Chevy the official vehicle???? Does this guy know how many car manufacturers are in the South? Is he aware that his precious, yuppie mobile the BMW has a plant in Greer, SC? Or that Porsche is building their US headquarters in Hapeville, Ga? Is he aware that the Red States have most of the natural resources and farms that fuel and feed America?

I would love it if the South seceded. That’s what that Russian economist has predicted. It’d be nice to see how fast the Northeast and West Coast would fall apart.


101 posted on 04/30/2013 9:26:45 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

No, but I did laugh. Does that count? :-)

102 posted on 04/30/2013 9:28:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Still Thinking

Isn’t this just a rehash of Michael Moore’s “Jesusland” drivel?


103 posted on 04/30/2013 9:33:13 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More important, I’d like to see the red counties able to secede. I.e., the agricultural counties of CA, the farming counties of NY and PA. It is only the cities/urban areas of ‘blue states’ that are liberal and Dem. So let them survive on their own devices, their own productivity. See how long they last without the fruits of ‘flyover’ country’s labors.


104 posted on 04/30/2013 9:33:14 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: CodeToad
They could call themselves Amerika, we can call ourselves America. This nation was not founded on Marxism, so they don’t get to use the name.

Hmm....lemme take a crack at that.

How 'bout Amerigua? The libs love illegals and want everyone to speak Spanish, so might as well give it that twist.

Or how 'bout Ameriqa? Has a bit of an Arabic feel, don't ya think? Oughta make the muzzies feel more at home, I'd think.

Then there's the ever popular Amerika for the hard core Marxist utopians.

And since California lefties will probably rapidly pollute what's left of the place, why not call it AmeriCa?

105 posted on 04/30/2013 9:49:24 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree, we should leave.

This federation has been at war with each-other for 150 years and if Washington doesn’t even want to pretend to be a limited government than there is no way we can ever have peace short of separation.

It’s time to move out and make our own house, I’m sure we will be Great neighbors, were just not good roommates.


106 posted on 04/30/2013 9:50:07 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Zionist Conspirator
How does this "genius" interpret a government monopoly on legal weapons ownership as "no guns?"

Simple: the police would use drones and hellfire missiles -- it's a-ok so long as there are no guns.

107 posted on 04/30/2013 9:52:18 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I have an idea. You in the NE must take Austin, most of Houston, Dallas, Ft Worth, the south Texas area and you have a deal.

Hey, hey, hey! Hands off our sacred lands of Texas!

You know that's not the way we do things here. No - first we secede, then we give all the libs a reasonable 72 hours to vacate to blues states.

Harumph!

108 posted on 04/30/2013 9:53:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SoldierDad
If Red States did secede I would definitely leave CA and move to the New World.

The blue states have already covertly seceded from America. What's keepin' ya?

109 posted on 04/30/2013 9:54:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like a plan to me!
Let the North rot in socialist mediocrity by itself. - - why continue to drag down the South?

One major upside is that most of the South’s parasites and moochers - - AKA, the Democrat party “base” - - would be attracted to the “free stuff” up North. The North would therefore gain the Democrat voters they crave and the South would get rid of them. Win-win!


110 posted on 04/30/2013 9:54:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PhiloBedo

“Deranged, leftist drivel on parade for the whole world to see.”

At least he’s got the right conclusion in his head. We would be far happier and better off separate. We are after all in our hearts two different nations with very different ideas about how to live our lives and govern ourselves.

Why not simply agree to disagree?

Why should we continue to bash each-others heads in time and time again over every issue which Washington insist upon shoving down our throats?

There is of course a better option of more federalism but in 200 years the north has never been able to respect that. So why continue to kick a dead horse?


111 posted on 04/30/2013 9:56:59 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I understand Austin, but what’s wrong with DFW?

If that poster spent a few years living in Los Angeles, they'd come back and kiss the ground of DFW.

Yeah, we got our share of libs around, but we're still in the majority here. Of course, we get out-voted in the heart of Dallas County, but such is life in all mega cities. The surrounding areas are solidly red.

112 posted on 04/30/2013 9:57:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

“They can keep what they consider “high art”.”

The real question is why do we southerns care? Give me your productive and fruitful yearning to breath free!


113 posted on 04/30/2013 9:58:56 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
By contrast, the South leads in all the negative trends. The South has the highest infant mortality rate (because we don't abort them all). It has the most traffic deaths (we still drive cars). It leads the country in gun deaths (we still own guns). It has the greatest number of obese people (we still can afford food). It has the highest rate of diabetes (we can still afford too much food!). It has the largest number of people dying from stroke—a broad swath of the southeastern United States is known as the “stroke belt” (we like food that has actual flavor). The South has the highest rates of cognitive decline (according to their "adjusted" numbers).

From the next paragraph...

Risk of cognitive impairment was 18 percent higher in residents of the Stroke Belt than in those living in non-Belt states after adjusting for the influences of age, sex, race, and education level.

Education? Race?

Whoo boy, that is some thin ice Mr. Lee!

I thought we are all identical under the no-longer-noticed skin color, Mr. Lee.

And did you bother to offer the methodology for the study? No?

There is a good reason for that...

Research presented at medical meetings should be considered preliminary until it is published in a peer-reviewed medical journal.

Quoting un-reviewed material Mr. Lee? Tisk, tisk.

But this part is my absolute favorite from the entire shtick.

Interestingly, though the South is home to the major tobacco companies and to carcinogenic Coca-Cola, the highest incidence of many types of cancer happens to be in the North. Which just proves that the stress of living alongside the Confederacy is now seriously affecting our health.

So YOUR high cancer rates are OUR fault?

Those EEE-VILE Johnny Rebs...

Yeah... gotcha.

But putting that aside, by all means Mr. Lee, we would welcome you and others like you to put as much distance between yourselves and our home as you can possibly achieve.

You may begin packing anytime, Mr. Lee.

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114 posted on 04/30/2013 10:00:03 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with this guy, although I’d include Alaska and the Great Plains with his little goofy plan, along with much of the Great Basin and parts of the Southwest. Yes, let them go it alone. Good luck. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.


115 posted on 04/30/2013 10:01:46 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: Windflier

“The blue states have already covertly seceded from America. What’s keepin’ ya?”

We got a number of practical problems all of which can be sumed up with one word “Lincoln”.

More northern like this liberal need to speak up and change the ideological of their countrymen towards clearly accepting our PEACEFUL separation. Otherwise y’all are just going to have to wait till we got enough guns and defenses stockpiled to enable us to blow your sorry butts off the face of the earth, should y’all try to stop us as Lincoln did.


116 posted on 04/30/2013 10:08:37 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: ConservativeStatement

LOL, I love the irony! Good one.


117 posted on 04/30/2013 10:17:58 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. We need to start over.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The writer is an idiot (but then again he is liberal).....I am happily moving myself to the South because the liberal cess pool I live in has become intolerable


118 posted on 04/30/2013 10:18:55 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: True Grit

Actually there is one Blue State with the Mason-Dixon in it, MD. Those of us unfortunate enough to reside here want to change the state slogan from “Free State” to “Freedomless State”. It is personal opinion the Mason-Dixon is a state of mind but actually runs slightly above Fredericksburg, VA.


119 posted on 04/30/2013 10:22:17 PM PDT by AuntiRE
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To: NTHockey

Also, the South has most major military bases. They can pay us protection money;)


120 posted on 04/30/2013 10:33:01 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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