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Bill Clinton: “You’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon. Trust me.”
Hotair ^ | 04/30/2013 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 04/30/2013 7:13:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Been getting our self-defense and firearm-selection advice from our esteemed vice president, have we? Or, would that be just our talking points? Via the Washington Examiner:

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If you live in a city and you think you need protection of your home, you’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon,” Clinton added. “Trust me. It’s not even close.

Groan. For the umpteenth time — yes, a shotgun is a very solid choice for in-home self-defense, but for goodness’ sake, stop trying to discount AR-15s and their ilk as an defense option because of your eagerness to discredit its possible uses and classify it as an “assualt” weapon. What a criminal can assault a law-abiding citizen with, a law-abiding citizen can just as easily deter and defend against criminals.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assaultweapon; banglist; clinton; guncontrol; secondamendment; shotgun
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To: jwalsh07

Hiccup!


51 posted on 04/30/2013 7:45:14 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks Bubba. I have found that I can always trust weapons advice from serial rapist democrats.


52 posted on 04/30/2013 7:47:49 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: SeekAndFind
Being a big game rabbit hunter like his idle Elmer, President Clinton must have valuable life experience that gives great knowledge of weapons used in self defense and sporting events. Why do some of you here chose not to heed advice?


53 posted on 04/30/2013 7:48:03 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Normal isn't normal anymore.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just don’t see a lot of SWAT teams or the Chicago Black Militia with single or double barrel single shot shotguns...just thinking if the real Pros need an AR15 (aka as an AK-47) I think I’ll stick with a winner.


54 posted on 04/30/2013 7:49:00 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Team: Progressives, Margret Sanger, Josef Mengele and the Butcher of Philadelphia)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, well, the shotgun is for protecting the house. The assault
rifle is for the protection of life and property from the goons
sent by a tyranical government run amuck. Read Madison’s
Federalist #46, Clinton, and then read the Second Amend-
ment. Amazing that the Founders figured out that sooner
or later the Clintons, Pelosis, Obamas, and Feinsteins would
show up.


55 posted on 04/30/2013 7:50:49 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Sola Veritas

“...THEN it is true that a shotgun (provided it is a weaponized one with a 18’ barrel and pump or semi-auto) IS the BEST choice...”

Mine is a pistol grip 12 ga with a laser and bright light on it, loaded alternately with 00 & slugs. I also have a semi-auto 45 w13 rd clips and a rifle w/30 rd clips that I can fire nearly as fast as if it were ‘selectable’.

Anyone want to come and take your chances? Bring your shotgun, Willie Jeff...ya sure ya know which is the business end?


56 posted on 04/30/2013 7:51:59 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Which is why your SS detail carries only shotguns, eh, Bill?

Piss off ya statist.


57 posted on 04/30/2013 7:55:00 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well in a way, a six foot wide pattern of double-ought will definitely ruin someone’s day. The thing I don’t like is some government weeny like Bill Clinton who most likely has never fired a gun telling us what we need or want for home defense.


58 posted on 04/30/2013 7:55:06 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Sivad

Willie Jeff, the Rapist-in-Chief, never got the training to know the difference between ‘this is my rifle, this is my gun’...


59 posted on 04/30/2013 7:55:21 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: varyouga
I think they're promoting shotguns because they aren't very effective against body armor.

Teflon-coated slugs?

60 posted on 04/30/2013 7:57:42 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind
"... If you live in a city and you think you need protection of your home, you’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon,” Clinton added. “Trust me. It’s not even close."

Says the President who banned my Benelli shotgun in 1994 because it has a pistol grip and was therefore an 'assault shotgun' even though it was no different than the same model without the pistol grip which wasn't banned.

61 posted on 04/30/2013 7:59:19 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Bubba, DiFi, and plugs are talking shotgun and home defense PRECISELY to steer us away from rifles AND the purpose of 2A.


62 posted on 04/30/2013 8:03:41 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: SeekAndFind

Got you covered (in a manner of speaking) on both, Bill. Multiple times on each count, as a matter of fact. Thanks for your un-solicited advice though but I know what the meaning of the word “is” is....


63 posted on 04/30/2013 8:08:22 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Sherman Logan

64 posted on 04/30/2013 8:21:24 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SeekAndFind
I have both. I'll decide which I will use in any given
situation. Thanks anyway Bubba "Traitor Trash" Clinton.
65 posted on 04/30/2013 8:21:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4csoQLvGY

Just buy a shotgun! Women love them!!
Bimbo brain Biden and the Bubba Bill wouldn’t lie, would they?


66 posted on 04/30/2013 8:25:56 PM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Bill, when I want some advice on how to fit an underling the age of my daughter under my desk, I’ll definitely give ya a call. On any other matters, STHU!


67 posted on 04/30/2013 8:32:28 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SeekAndFind
SHOTGUN?

Man, you better watch out for Mobama's guns.

68 posted on 04/30/2013 8:32:45 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
When are people going to wake up and stop the liberals from making the 2nd amendment about crime & protection from criminals?

Hey, even that's progress! Normally they think it's about shooting deaaaah!

69 posted on 04/30/2013 8:35:40 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't see this as an either/or situation.


70 posted on 04/30/2013 8:35:55 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Slyfox

Is that a pocket copy of Das Kapital or you just happy to see me?


71 posted on 04/30/2013 8:36:31 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Sooth2222

Shotguns and body armor.

I’m no firearms expert, but I would bet a significant sum that 12 ga slugs or buckshot will blast right through standard body armor, at least at close range such as inside a house.


72 posted on 04/30/2013 8:36:40 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

BS

I’ll choose what weapon to shoot an invader with.

It’ll be .45 JHP 230 grain by Hornady until I run out and then I’ll switch the shotgun, with slugs.


73 posted on 04/30/2013 8:41:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Sooth2222

Was googling around about slugs and vests. Ran across one comment I though interesting.

The slug won’t penetrate, but it will make the front of the best contact the back of the vest.

No idea if that’s true, but given the sheer energy release from a slug or 00 at close range, I don’t think anybody hit in a vest is going to be good for much for a while, whether the rounds penetrate or not. Rough equivalent of getting hit by a car.


74 posted on 04/30/2013 8:45:38 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

So tell me Bill.

Why does the Secret Service use Uzi’s if a shotgun would be better?


75 posted on 04/30/2013 8:47:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bill you married Hillary, got caught cheating at least a dozen times, if you were an average Joe you would be in jail for being a sexual preditor, and lost your law license for perjury. If I need help finding and marring a dog like Hillary, lessons in being a sexual pervert, or lying in court, I will give you a call. Considering weapons, keep your opinion to yourself Opie. Retiring from the Army provided me with the skill set you will never have you panzy.


76 posted on 04/30/2013 9:31:09 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“You don’t have a clue about firearms.”

But I’m sure that never stopped him from saying, Hey baby, why don’ we go on upstairs and y’all can clean my barrel! Wooooohoooo! Yeah!!! /s;)


77 posted on 04/30/2013 10:13:15 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: SeekAndFind

Women prefer .410 and 20-gauge shotguns because others have too much kick. But for men, why limit them to shotguns when a pistol or carbine is really better?


78 posted on 04/30/2013 10:19:00 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
But for men, why limit them to shotguns when a pistol or carbine is really better?

This man prefers a 18.5" Mossberg 590A1. Better is relative. Nothing does "dead right there" on the unarmored or lightly armored quite as well as a blast of buckshot placed COM.

The tactic for heavily armored foes is one to the groin, one to the face while down, because a crotch shot makes the male target involuntarily reactive to the wound. At least that's what the USMC instructors drilled my destroyer's security team to do back in the day at Pearl Harbor.
79 posted on 04/30/2013 10:51:14 PM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: John S Mosby

An assult weapon is belt fed.


80 posted on 04/30/2013 10:53:26 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: faithhopecharity; Squantos; osagebowman; g'nad; TalonDJ; Ramius
Dear Mr Clinton, even if you’re right, its still each citizen’s choice what weapons s/he chooses to purchase. It is not your choice, nor is it the government’s. See US Constitution. Thank you.

You'd think so, but then you'd be wrong. The statists realize that their personal powers, and secret knowledge, far surpass that piece of parchment Constitution, which some unknown professor says is written in a language so archaic that nobody has understood it in the last 50 years.

We are fortunate to have the world's leading authority on home protection, and the second-smartest male in history to lecture us about the benefits of using a shotgun, assuming they permit us to own anything in the way of weaponry.

Uncle Joe first praised the double-barrel shotgun as more then we'll ever need, because bad guys surrender when you fire that first shot into the air from the back porch. But then he also said that the bad guys would surrender just at the sound of a pump action chambering a round. What's the better form of wisdom, considering they both came from Mr. Shotgun himself?

The best I could come up with was a form of bipartisanship. A single-barrel 12ga shotgun with two tubular magazines:

Aside from a few mods I made to the Kel-Tec KMG for my own comfort and preferences, the shotgun itself is set up to handle six 3" shells in both magazine tubes, with a lever to change from one "tank" to the other. I have great expectations of using the Mexican "shorty" shells also. This should give a total capacity of about 25 rounds, with one in the chamber, although if kept empty, I always have that magical "chunk, chunk" sound of chambering that first round.

Thank you for being so frank about so serious subject, Mr. Biden. I just don't know what I would have done without it, except go with something more inappropriate, like my sub-MOA AR-10.

81 posted on 05/01/2013 2:03:46 AM PDT by 300winmag (Whatever CAN go wrong has already happened. We just don't know about it yet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My shotgun has a whole lot more kick than an AR15. Both have their uses, but fortunately we have a Second Amendment. My right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That means I get to decide what firearms to use in my own defense. It’s not like the size of soft drink I can buy, which is within Bloomberg’s power to regulate when he knows better than I do how thirsty I am. This is a God-given human right, and government lacks the authority to infringe on this decision even if Clinton, Obama, or Pelosi thinks I’m wrong in my choice.


82 posted on 05/01/2013 2:38:32 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Trust me. It’s not even close.

So. Bill, who did you shoot?

83 posted on 05/01/2013 2:52:27 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shoot! I was in the Army, and trained with and USED the AR15/M16. Why should I trust Clintoon, who, as far as I know, never fired a gun in anger?


84 posted on 05/01/2013 2:53:53 AM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Trust Me" - Adolf Hitler, 1939
85 posted on 05/01/2013 3:16:07 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: SeekAndFind

I have been researching the best ways to overcome the balance of any confrontation of a superior armed force or superior numbers.

And usually it boils down to what they fear the most and thats long range standoff weapons, the further the better.

They train for confrontation against assault weapons, I will train otherwise. Like Quigly said, “Doesn’t mean I don’t know how to use one”. We can and should fight for assault weapons, but there is better alternatives for an edge.


86 posted on 05/01/2013 3:25:08 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors.)
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To: 300winmag

Let me know if the messkin ammo works..... 25 rounds in that will make me jealous .

A Benelli M4 with a XRAIL was my Uncle Joe (who has touched us all, albeit inappropriately ) with the suggestion to buy a shotgun.

Taking firearms advice from a polidiot is like taking birth control advice from a bowling ball return. Yet Joe the village idiot did good.

That KSG is on my wish list. Let me know how and what etc .... Very interested in your trusted review !

Stay safe...


87 posted on 05/01/2013 3:46:15 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Goody. Just what I need, another politician telling me what to do regarding firearms.


88 posted on 05/01/2013 3:57:54 AM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Bill, people need protection outside their homes as well. Are you saying we should carry shotguns in our cars? idk what this man is yapping about.


89 posted on 05/01/2013 4:17:55 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: SeekAndFind
The solution:

M-26 system link

90 posted on 05/01/2013 4:27:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Then why do the people who surround YOU have AR's? (Armalite rifles)
91 posted on 05/01/2013 8:19:18 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: c-b 1

Sturmgewehr in WWII defined the “assault” rifle.. and many others were/are not belt fed.

Check military’s definition, ok.

For example, A full auto capable AR-15 is indeed an assault rifle, and it is magazine fed.


92 posted on 05/05/2013 10:44:04 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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