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A home in Westchester (HUD forces county to build "affordable housing" in high-income neighborhoods)
New York Post ^ | 05/01/2013

Posted on 05/01/2013 2:23:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

When Americans think of the federal government taking on locals to combat racism, they think of Ike sending troops into a Little Rock high school, of JFK sending the National Guard to Ole Miss or LBJ announcing on television the FBI’s arrest of Klansmen for killing a Freedom Rider.

Now the Obama administration is arguing that the leafy hamlets of Westchester County are guilty of their own racial discrimination. And the Department of Housing and Urban Development is using all the power it has to bring the locals to heel.

The leverage comes from a 2009 consent decree designed to counter what HUD says is housing discrimination. The decree obligates Westchester to build 750 units of “affordable” housing in high-income, largely white neighborhoods and “market them aggressively” to minorities. The county is doing so, and is even ahead of schedule.

That hasn’t satisfied HUD, because it’s really after something different: a standard of discrimination based on statistics, not actual demonstrations of people who have been denied housing because of race. It’s called “disparate impact.”

In other words, what we have here is social engineering. As one of its officials has admitted, HUD wants “to remove zip codes as a factor in the quality of life in America.” In other words, anyone has the right to live anywhere — even if he can’t afford it. So even though blacks and Hispanics and other racial minorities who can afford Westchester housing prices are as welcome as anyone, HUD sees only racism.

Westchester County Executive Rob Astorino has been fighting this, and losing, for some years. The latest wrinkle was a threat from Justice to hold Astorino in contempt if he did not introduce legislation that would require landlords to accept Section 8 vouchers — public assistance — for rentals.

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KEYWORDS: discrimination; housing; hud; westchester
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1 posted on 05/01/2013 2:23:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If Westchester loses, it will have national implications. Because if a concept as arbitrary as disparate impact becomes the measure of discrimination, local authorities everywhere will have no effective defense against bureaucrats in Washington bent on finding racism to justify imposing their own ideological agendas.


2 posted on 05/01/2013 2:24:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I know a Jewish couple who live there[Chappaqua] and they love diversity, so good let them build the projects right next to where they live seeing as they want diversity and fairness for all


3 posted on 05/01/2013 2:28:11 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind
When will the American taxpayer have provided enough reparations?
4 posted on 05/01/2013 2:28:44 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I have a cousin who lives in one of those leafy Westchester hamlets. She and her husband pay ALOT of taxes for the privilege.

I'd like to know are these section-8ers or their landlords also gonna cough up the dough for the privilege?

5 posted on 05/01/2013 2:28:59 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama , or more likely his bosses, miss nothing.


6 posted on 05/01/2013 2:30:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: manc

Chappaqua? Hillary likes diversity.


7 posted on 05/01/2013 2:30:17 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SeekAndFind

More of this to come. This is one of the worse consequences of the reelection of the 0ne.


8 posted on 05/01/2013 2:32:28 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: SeekAndFind

what could go wrong?

...

I predict a 1960’s white flight from Westchester.


9 posted on 05/01/2013 2:34:05 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Slyfox

LOL I kid you not, I dated her and she was alright but she married a staunch Jewish guy and has turned radical lefty.
They moved to Chappaqua to be near the Clintons

I kid you not on that.


10 posted on 05/01/2013 2:37:13 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t high time that the government get’s out of our lives, our business, our religion and our houses.

It seems the only thing that the Lib’s don’t want the government in is the bedroom.


11 posted on 05/01/2013 2:40:15 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Westchester, circa 2025
12 posted on 05/01/2013 2:44:34 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: SeekAndFind

Welcome to the USSSA . . . comrade.


13 posted on 05/01/2013 2:46:33 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: manc

yeah...the rich support the rats so let them live in their own desires...have fun....


14 posted on 05/01/2013 2:48:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: SeekAndFind
Saw this happen in numerous places around the country as a commercial banker.

It's Agenda 21 and there's no way to stop it.

15 posted on 05/01/2013 2:50:58 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: SeekAndFind

How can it possibly be legal to force landlords to accept Section 8?

I own 3 rentals in NY. My cash, my sacrifices, my work and skill go into these units, how in the hell can the G-D gub’mint require people like me to rent to people unwilling to get out of the damned ghetto on their own?

I don’t make a lot of money at this, I’ve bought the houses as a hedge against retirement poverty. Having Sec 8 people as renters would so lower the value of my properties.

I refuse to rent to them - how the tenants take care of their free apartments is disgustingly obvious at addresses that do.

I found they’re trying to force this in Maryland, as well. Is this the new trend?

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<March 26, 2013 at 11:12 pm
By Ilana Kowarski
Ilana@MarylandReporter.com

Sen. Jim Brochin
A bill that would require landlords to accept tenants through the federal Section 8 program sparked a debate about civil rights on the Senate floor Tuesday.

The bill, SB487, is intended to prevent landlords from rejecting tenants that receive public assistance simply because they are poor. But critics of the legislation said that it would force landlords to participate in social welfare programs <

link: http://marylandreporter.com/2013/03/26/bill-requiring-landlords-to-accept-section-8-housing-vouchers-sparks-debate/


16 posted on 05/01/2013 2:54:15 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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To: SeekAndFind

How does Westchester vote? Is there a R vs. D breakdown of how Westchester votes?


17 posted on 05/01/2013 2:54:16 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SeekAndFind

(shrug) I can tell you that in some neighborhoods, the “affordable housing” would get very, very expensive after it kept getting burned to the ground. Not that the Democrats care - - lol, it’s only other people’s money.


18 posted on 05/01/2013 2:56:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SeekAndFind

This is actually mandated in many, many places around the country...it is rarely enforced....or it was...

The local pols know it’s a death blow to their re-election if they comply with the mandates...


19 posted on 05/01/2013 2:59:35 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is standard Democrat-President-second-term stuff. Clinton did it, Carter did it.

Johnson didn’t do it because he didn’t have a second term. During his first term, however, Democrat core constituents burned the cities they lived in. One side of the equation, in a sense.


20 posted on 05/01/2013 3:00:04 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: manc

They love diversity for everyone else.

Jewish, huh?


21 posted on 05/01/2013 3:01:45 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Here is a link from their westchester.gov website:

2012 election Results
http://citizenparticipation.westchestergov.com/images/stories/pdfs/2012CanvassGeneral121106.pdf

County totals:
234,778 OBAMA
131,139 ROMNEY


22 posted on 05/01/2013 3:09:41 PM PDT by ruralvoter
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To: SeekAndFind
HEADLINE: A home in Westchester (HUD forces county to build "affordable housing" in high soon-to-be-low-income neighborhoods)

There. I fixed it.

23 posted on 05/01/2013 3:11:10 PM PDT by Gritty (The Constitution's purpose is to insulate personal freedom from a lust for power-Judge A. Napolitano)
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To: SeekAndFind
HUD is violating the 5th amendment. It is a taking without just compensation to put low budget housing into an area of higher cost homes. It immediately devalues the higher value homes without any compensation to the existing owners. The second wave of devaluation follows when the "low income" denizens arrive to occupy the low income housing and turn to burglarizing the high value homes. The increased crime rate statistics lower the value further.
24 posted on 05/01/2013 3:17:53 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: SeekAndFind

When I lived in the SF bay area they were doing this; I don’t know if it was HUD forcing the issue. Needless to say, some of the residents that were all for “diversity” before were not too happy with the crime and property devaluation after they moved in.


25 posted on 05/01/2013 3:20:04 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: elkfersupper

Some folks are giving a good shot at fighting it. It needs to be done at the local level, and takes time and work.


26 posted on 05/01/2013 3:23:26 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: SeekAndFind

This is great news, all those leftists up there have been aiding fascists in the last few decades, now they get to really feel good. I hope they move one family next to each and every liberal there.


27 posted on 05/01/2013 3:27:44 PM PDT by stockpirate (Planned Parenthood, murdering black children one baby at a time.......where is the outrage)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tell HUD to screw off. Capitulation only emboldens them to make ever increasing demands.

“If you have something others have a right to it” is the credo of Democrats/socialists/communists - and thieves.


28 posted on 05/01/2013 3:32:41 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: elkfersupper

“It’s Agenda 21 and there’s no way to stop it.”

There’s a way to stop it, but it requires conservatives getting off their fat, comfortable asses and organizing.

For example, when the liberal, left-wing village council decides to raise property taxes, conservatives need to show up at the village council and tell them hell no.

When the schoolboard wants to teach 6-year-old kids how to slide a rubber onto a cucumber, conservatives need to show and say hell no.

I was in local government for nearly 20 years and begging so-called conservatives to attend local village meetings was like asking Dracula to show up at a sunrise worship ceremony.

Damn conservatives were more interested in barbecuing ribs, remodeling their kitchens and chasing mammon.


29 posted on 05/01/2013 3:33:29 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: manc

How about some high rise projects behind Bill and Hillary’s house?


30 posted on 05/01/2013 3:40:54 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: dsrtsage

ever been to Cairo?
If so you’d know that place would house at least 10 families


31 posted on 05/01/2013 3:41:53 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Lancey Howard

I live in a very nice older country club area. Many years ago across the main street from us the condos and apartments went Section 8. Now it is a ghetto and if you look at the crime map....holy smoke! The saving grace is they totally leave us alone.


32 posted on 05/01/2013 3:46:16 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

The local big city has a section 8 mess located on the edge of town. Developers put up condos next door. I met someone who owned one of the condos. He said it was like the condo developemnt was a shopping mall for the section 8 crowd.

The fence between the two is formidable now and the the condos are gated with security.


33 posted on 05/01/2013 4:05:38 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: SeekAndFind

Please put it next door to the Clinton’s.


34 posted on 05/01/2013 4:16:35 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: silverleaf

love to see that and lets see how they like their diversity and helping the poor once they see the crime, drugs, gangs and property prices go down.


35 posted on 05/01/2013 4:28:30 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

yet they say “no” to school vouchers...how very hypocritically liberal of them....


36 posted on 05/01/2013 4:30:06 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: SeekAndFind

They do the same thing where I own property. When a unit in the neighborhood sells for $30k or more less because it is price controlled, it drives down the appraisal on a comparable unit, or the owner has to spend energy explaining that reason.


37 posted on 05/01/2013 4:32:31 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Lancey Howard

See here:
RE: How does Westchester vote? Is there a R vs. D breakdown of how Westchester votes?

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http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121220/NEWS02/312200039/Map-Westchester-presidential-voting-by-neighborhood

There’s a MAP on how the districts of Westchester, NY voted on the above site.

However in summary:

Countywide, Obama handily won Westchester with 240,785 votes, 62 percent. Romney received 143,122, 37 percent.

Votes for other presidential candidates: Gary Johnson, Libertarian, 2,042; Jill Stein, Green Party, 1,627; Virgil Goode, Constitution Party, 228; and Peta Lindsay (Party for Socialism and Liberation), 76.

Their current County Executive Rob Astorino is Republican however.


38 posted on 05/01/2013 5:47:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: dsrtsage

That’s one of those new fake crumbling house. It looks so bad, not even thieves and house invaders will touch it. Hidden under the ruined exterior is a luxury home. Brilliant idea!


39 posted on 05/01/2013 5:48:43 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Chickensoup

I haven’t figured out why they leave our neighborhood alone other than a main busy highway separates us and we are kind of offset back against the golf course and there is only a small windy road coming into the neighborhood. Although if you ever leave anything outside it will be gone.


40 posted on 05/01/2013 6:35:56 PM PDT by sheana
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To: SeekAndFind

The low income people will find that there are fewer public accomodations in the tony neighborhoods.


41 posted on 05/01/2013 6:39:04 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (And winter is coming.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ban you imagine how happy the minority Americans who have made it to the good life will be to welcome the riffraff into their neighborhoods.


42 posted on 05/01/2013 6:45:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (And winter is coming.)
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RE: It seems the only thing that the Lib’s don’t want the government in is the bedroom.

Really? Then why do they want the government to force others to celebrate what gays do in their bedrooms?


43 posted on 05/01/2013 6:56:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: cherry

Rub their faces in it. When their property rates drop and crime increases, we can then laugh at them.


44 posted on 05/01/2013 7:12:17 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: ruralvoter

County totals:
234,778 OBAMA
131,139 ROMNEY

Congratulations to Westchester - - they are getting exactly what they vote for.


45 posted on 05/01/2013 7:23:57 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Burn baby burn. We don’t need no water...

Nice homes there though, it would be a shame.


46 posted on 05/01/2013 9:57:52 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good, give them leftist a little bit of their own medicine.The people in New York deserve eveything they get. Too bad they didn’t do this on Martha’s Vinyard about 30 years ago so old Teddy could have enjoyed what he had been forcing down our throats for years...


47 posted on 05/02/2013 2:52:07 AM PDT by democratsaremyenemy
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To: SeekAndFind
Anyone with some spare time on their hands should google “Commonwealth Day School” and “Cambridge”.After some reading (much of it from the Harvard Crimson) you'll see just what the Illuminati of Harvard Square think about having little black boys and girls in their midst...even for only a few daylight hours.

(Yes,the Harvard-types featured in the stories live in the richest part of Cambridge...$4 million homes).

48 posted on 05/02/2013 5:46:23 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Now, they are going to meddle, nationwide:

HUD's New 'Fair Housing' Rule Establishes Diversity Data for Every Neighborhood in U.S.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/huds-new-fair-housing-rule-establishes-diversity-data-every-neighborhood-us

49 posted on 07/22/2013 9:02:29 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy
In MD ( THE Freak state)(Montgomery county), they require MPDUs (moderately priced dwelling units) to be constructed in some proportion in any development over 50 units. Some years ago MPDUs were built in Avenel (a wealthy golf course subdivision). The recipients of the counties largesse complained that the smaller brick units looked like slave quarters! Ingrates.
50 posted on 07/22/2013 9:36:45 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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