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Alabama lawmakers vote to ignore new federal gun control laws
Fox ^ | 5/1/13 | ap

Posted on 05/01/2013 7:57:52 PM PDT by Nachum

MONTGOMERY, Ala. – The Alabama Legislature is telling the federal government and others to back off on gun control.

The Senate passed legislation Tuesday declaring that “All federal acts, laws, orders, rules or regulations regarding firearms are a violation of the Second Amendment.” It also says federal laws in violation of the Second Amendment shall be considered null and void in Alabama. The vote was 24-6.

The sponsor, Republican Sen. Paul Sanford of Huntsville, said the bill resulted from hundreds of emails and calls he received from his north Alabama constituents concerned that Congress might enact new gun regulations or restore the previous ban on assault weapons. He said the assault weapon ban is an example of federal regulation that he considers a violation of the Second Amendment.

Democratic Sen. Bobby Singleton of Greensboro, who voted against the measure, said state law can’t trump federal law. “This bill is null and void on its face,” Singleton said.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; banglist; donttreadonme; guncontrol; lawmakers; nocompromise; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: Nachum
The Senate passed legislation Tuesday declaring that “All federal acts, laws, orders, rules or regulations regarding firearms are a violation of the Second Amendment.”

So that would mean that any federal law regarding firearms currently on the books would be null and void, not just new ones?

21 posted on 05/02/2013 7:29:18 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Nextrush
This is GOP-E feel good stuff so they can win re-election.

I suppose a terminally cynical and morose person could see it that way. (Is there a problem with wanting to win elections?)

When the federal government spurns its duty to secure our rights, the states are fully justified to step into the breech.

22 posted on 05/02/2013 7:29:52 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

And here algore was just saying that there’s nothing between a Supreme Court decision and an armed revolution.

The states still got juice, folks.


23 posted on 05/02/2013 7:31:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: djf

One of the “collapse” scenarios includes the idea that the feds just won’t have the resources to enforce their dictates in all places, and certain jurisdictions are going to simply ignore those dictates.


24 posted on 05/02/2013 7:32:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: xzins

You know what jumped out at me?
The word “all”. “All” federal gun laws are a violation of the 2nd amendment.


25 posted on 05/02/2013 7:33:58 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: don-o

All governmental authority in our nation comes from the Constitution. When any entity acts outside of that authority, it ceases to have legitimacy, and simply becomes rule by force. A thugocracy with no legitimate authority.


26 posted on 05/02/2013 7:35:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: don-o

I think I have it right.

This would mean nothing in the face of federal law upheld by a federal court.

The Dems in state legislatures nullified integration down South back around 1960 and we all know how that ended. It was a trick by politicians to get segregationist votes.


27 posted on 05/02/2013 8:05:52 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: MrB

Good catch, MrB. I hadn’t really paid attention to that.

Actually, I agree with it.

I don’t even like the westerns that have folks “checking their guns when they’re in town.” (Virgil Earp in Tombstone)


28 posted on 05/02/2013 8:52:43 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Nextrush
The Founders recognized the danger of consolidated and centralized power. They dispersed power and created checks and balances.

They enumerated the specific things that the federal government could do, and then buttoned it all up with the Tenth Amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Of course, both in 1960 as well as 1860, the federal government prevailed due to superior force. Will third time be a "charm" and states be able to assert their sovereignty? We shall see. I like it that Alabama is at least moving in that direction.

29 posted on 05/02/2013 8:53:28 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: xzins

Local ordinance...
not as big a fight as a federal law.


30 posted on 05/02/2013 8:53:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Slapping around some local ordinance people...

BTW...does that include Chicago?


31 posted on 05/02/2013 9:07:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Nextrush
The Democrats down south did nullification of racial integration laws 50 or 60 years ago to help them win the next election.

They meant nothing when federal court rulings and civil rights laws prevailed.

I believe this is a specious comparison.

The segregationists of that era certainly did not have moral authority on their side. But I believe that moral authority does, indeed, rest with the resistors to an overweening federal government nowadays.

And I would hope that the states would unite in their total opposition to all federal-court rulings (including those of the SCOTUS), and declare their own (respective) state Supreme Courts to be the ultimate authority on all matters.

32 posted on 05/02/2013 9:03:49 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: noprogs

Awesome!!!


33 posted on 05/02/2013 9:09:23 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

I view this kind of law along with laws about illegal immigrants in AZ and AL and the abortion laws passed in Arkansas and North Dakota as being Karl Rovian “wedge issues” that keep the base riled up supporting the GOP even as they end up being ruled illegal in part or full by federal courts.

There was also a phony law passed when Terri Schiavo’s starvation began in 2005 and signed by President W Bush that raised hopes but did nothing to save her life.

We were told to give the GOP credit for “trying.”

The grassroots are being hustled by insider politicians when these laws are passed.


34 posted on 05/03/2013 12:08:47 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: don-o

Thank you for your response.

I just put up post #34 to further amplify my opinion.


35 posted on 05/03/2013 12:10:28 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: Nextrush
keep the base riled up supporting the GOP even as they end up being ruled illegal in part or full by federal courts.

You have defined a problem. What's your solution?

Isn't it possible that the people of Alabama are operating in good faith outside the influence of Karl Rove?

As to the Federal courts - if the Executive and Legislative branches fail to balance them, then that balance has to come from the states and the people.

36 posted on 05/03/2013 6:44:36 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

My thesis is that over 90 percent of the folks we elect are fakes and phonies and that includes deeper “RED” states like AL.

The gov and most of the legislature GOP-E.

The elected Chief Justice of AL Roy Moore is the only for sure outsider I know of in that state, but there are others around but only a few.


37 posted on 05/03/2013 6:59:09 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: Nextrush

Is there a solution in there that I missed?


38 posted on 05/03/2013 7:02:43 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

The solution can be seen in the headlines coming out of the UK today.

A real conservative party is showing up the phony one.

The phony ones were announcing a tougher prison policy just a few days before yesterday’s vote, so patently obvious they were in Karl Rove mode.

Cameron’s bigger trick a few months back was to suggest if he were re-elected in two years there would be talks with the EU and referendum on the UK role in it.

All symbolic feel good mumbo jumbo.


39 posted on 05/03/2013 7:21:37 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: djf

The fat lady is four hundred pounds plus and I hear her tuning up. When she is ready there will only be one tune she keeps repeating, “It’s All Over but the Cryin” and it will sound like Patsy Cline singing a funeral dirge.


40 posted on 05/03/2013 7:53:32 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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