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AK-47-Wielding Gunman Fires 37 Times at Shocked Cops During Routine Traffic Stop
The Blaze ^ | May 4, 2013 | Dave Urbanski

Posted on 05/04/2013 6:56:42 PM PDT by driftdiver

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Certainly a justified shoot but the video is interesting. Looks like suicide by cop but plenty of triggers for the anti's to use. The audio is interesting. The guy was hit but not completely down, the lady cop sounds like she is more worried about calling dispatch then making sure the guy shooting at her is down.
1 posted on 05/04/2013 6:56:42 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

> the lady cop sounds like she is more worried about calling
> dispatch then making sure the guy shooting at her is down.

I read the story at the news site.

She’d had a part of an index finger shot off in the first exchange of fire.


2 posted on 05/04/2013 7:00:18 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: driftdiver

I guess if Obama plants enough seeds, eventually one is going to sprout.


3 posted on 05/04/2013 7:00:18 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Westbrook

Yes, I read that as well. She sounds like she’s panicking.


4 posted on 05/04/2013 7:02:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I've been saying this for a while -- suicide is way up in this country. If someone is feeling depressed and hopeless, and if they happen to blame "the authorities", then suicide by cop may seem like an option. Or, if such a person is just driving around and runs a stop sign and gets pulled over, they might make a split second decision to just "have a blast" over pretty much nothing.

Much of the country is hovering at the brink.

5 posted on 05/04/2013 7:05:36 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Westbrook

Thought I heard the shooter saying “Kill me!”


6 posted on 05/04/2013 7:07:02 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Westbrook

Hope she is not too badly hurt, live fire can be an eye opener.


7 posted on 05/04/2013 7:07:39 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: boomop1

And an eye closer


8 posted on 05/04/2013 7:09:38 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: driftdiver

OK, we have an assault weapon, a hi-cap magazine. Do we have a Tea Bagger right wing white guy?


9 posted on 05/04/2013 7:10:10 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m exactly the opposite way. The worse things get the more calm I become. I just feel a need to keep an even keel in stormy seas.


10 posted on 05/04/2013 7:11:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m exactly the opposite way. The worse things get the more calm I become. I just feel a need to keep an even keel in stormy seas.

I find that's a very good trait to have.

11 posted on 05/04/2013 7:12:25 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

He did in fact say that,several times.Looks like a suicide by cop,he could have easily killed both officers if he really wanted to do so.


12 posted on 05/04/2013 7:12:59 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: cripplecreek

If I were a cop I sure hope my partner wasn’t the type to panic under fire. The other cop didn’t seem to hesitate.


13 posted on 05/04/2013 7:15:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Much of the country is hovering at the brink.”
____________________________________________

Yes, America, now USSA, is going to pieces.
I am so thankful that I left before we had even heard of Obumbo.


14 posted on 05/04/2013 7:19:57 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: OneWingedShark; cripplecreek
I agree: very good trait to have.

But a lot of people do not have that trait.

15 posted on 05/04/2013 7:20:23 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: OneWingedShark

In my youth it didn’t take much to send me into a rage and that just made things worse.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 7:20:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Westbrook
I was in a situation where a guy lost part of a finger and I got his hand above his heart and applied direct pressure while I dragged him into the office. He was walking but dazed.

Receptionist freaked. Completely. I told her it was just a finger, and to open the first aid kit. Harshly. I had to apologize later.

You never know how people will react until it happens.

/johnny

17 posted on 05/04/2013 7:21:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: driftdiver

She said “You cover and I’ll call dispatch.” Something about that bugs me. That, and her screaming.


18 posted on 05/04/2013 7:22:23 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: al baby

I wonder if they got clearance from Big Sis to call the perp a terrorist.


19 posted on 05/04/2013 7:24:41 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Enterprise

After that it almost sounds like she’s saying ‘stop firing’ and I think I also hear ‘I’m hit’. Tough situation and they certainly didn’t have long to respond.

The Boston cop who was shot by the bombers had a locking holster. I read he would have had to do 3 different things to draw his weapon. Seems like that delay would have gotten these 2 cops killed.


20 posted on 05/04/2013 7:25:29 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

She actually gave the female scream during the event.

I have seen some of the shows that show live video of global accidents, crashes, etc, and the females still scream, although Hollywood has eliminated it in many action and drama movies since the feminist movement, (horror movies don’t count).


21 posted on 05/04/2013 7:26:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: driftdiver

This happened in March.

Curious how the lame-stream media waited until the NRA convention was underway to report this incident?

ABC World News Tonight went from showing this Ohio shooting video to a hatchet piece about the NRA convention in Houston.

By the way, the female cop was shot in the hand, her male partner was grazed by a round. ABC said both officers were “injured” without getting specific.

The shooter was shot 19 times by the police and died at the scene. Before getting shot he shouted at the police, “Kill me! Kill me!”

Suicide by cop.


22 posted on 05/04/2013 7:31:38 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: driftdiver

Other details from various:

According to Cleveland.com, the assault rifle used by Gilkerson was an AK-47. He fired 37 shots at Officers Brandon Savage and Erin Thomas. They returned fire with 54 rounds of their own.

The attorney who represented him in a 2006 drunken driving conviction remembers him as a person who appeared to be anti-establishment.

Gilkerson did not have an extensive criminal past. The last time police in Mentor-on-the-Lake responded to a call to his home was in August 2012 when his mother had a stroke. A person who answered a relative’s phone said he cared for his mother, who had been ill.

In a joint news release from Middlefield Mayor Ben Garlich and Middlefield Police Chief Arnold Stanko on Monday, Gilkerson’s alleged weapon was identified as an SKS semi-automatic rifle.


23 posted on 05/04/2013 7:32:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: driftdiver

She tells dispatch that she’s hit and needs an ambulance. She must be the passenger officer. I counted about 17 continuous rounds from the officer on the drivers side. From the video, it does seem that she got about two hits on the suspect.


24 posted on 05/04/2013 7:32:52 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: cripplecreek

Good conditioning.

Quick cool heads prevail.


25 posted on 05/04/2013 7:40:38 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Appeared to be “anti-establishment”?

Does that mean Commie or Muzzie? That would be my bet.


26 posted on 05/04/2013 7:43:46 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Mears

bfl


27 posted on 05/04/2013 7:44:24 PM PDT by Mears
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To: cripplecreek

Getting shot at just plain rattles some folks.


28 posted on 05/04/2013 7:45:25 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: driftdiver

Had to listen a little more. She does say the words “stop firing.” He tells her to call for backup, and tells dispatch she’s hit and needs an ambulance. Normally, if there is a normal, this type of call should go out as shots fired, officers injured, suspect down, and then the location would be given. That would give dispatch and responding officers and the responding supervisor a lot more information than she gave when she said she was hit and needed an ambulance.


29 posted on 05/04/2013 7:51:37 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: driftdiver

Just imagine, someone panics when being shot at....!


30 posted on 05/04/2013 7:52:00 PM PDT by barney10
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To: driftdiver
definitely sounds like he says kill me twice, then the male puts 17 shots into him...
31 posted on 05/04/2013 7:53:18 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: JRandomFreeper

3 weeks ago I was having a business lunch with some of my peers. During our appetizer course, a nice rosemary garlic flatbread, I heard a woman say “Please help. She can’t breathe!” Yep, an older lady in her late 60s, choking. Not speaking, not coughing, not breathing.

So I walk over, get behind her, put my hands where they go for this sort of thing and whisper to her “Just try to stay calm. This will probably hurt.”

After the second thrust a middle aged woman at the next booth says loudly “I don’t think you’re doing it right.” I made a motion for her to jump in any time she wanted to. She shut up. I gave a really hard third thrust and out comes half a meatball.

The manager comped our lunch and sent me home with what he said was a double portion of the house made lasagna. When I opened it up I started laughing my ass off. Mrs. L asked what was so funny. Nestled in next to that lasagna was....

You guessed it. Two meatballs. They were really good.


32 posted on 05/04/2013 7:53:44 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: barney10

yeah, it tends to get the wrong people killed

She doesn’t sound like she’s ready to be a cop.


33 posted on 05/04/2013 7:53:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

One theory is: antidepressants give some the focus, courage, and wherewithal to actually do what they were too down to attempt.


34 posted on 05/04/2013 7:54:04 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: ansel12

Maybe a couple thousand more years of evolution and the females will get rid of that scream in emergency situations. It was NOT helpful in this one.


35 posted on 05/04/2013 7:54:05 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

they guy was still up and still had the gun in his hand. no reason to stop firing.


36 posted on 05/04/2013 7:56:06 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: Lurker
You have seen the elephant, or you have not. If you have, you know how you react.

Personally, I like to deal with folks that I know have seen the elephant and react appropriately.

Love my neighbor like a sister, but she's an idiot when it comes to emergencies. If I'm there to call the plays, she'll follow orders. Otherwise...

When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

/johnny

37 posted on 05/04/2013 7:57:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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"After the second thrust a middle aged woman at the next booth says loudly “I don’t think you’re doing it right.” I made a motion for her to jump in any time she wanted to. She shut up."

OUTSTANDING!

38 posted on 05/04/2013 7:57:34 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Chode

Musta been a 9mm. I prefer a .45acp although I did recently purchase a .40


39 posted on 05/04/2013 7:57:48 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: Enterprise
Some women don't.

Best not to paint with a broad brush.

Everyone reacts differently to stress situations.

Except running out of beer. Pretty much everyone panics over that. ;)

/johnny

40 posted on 05/04/2013 7:59:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Maybe he was foolishly in pursuit of Dorner.


41 posted on 05/04/2013 7:59:44 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Lurker

Nice work, bravo zulu


42 posted on 05/04/2013 7:59:59 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: Enterprise

While not useful in this situation, they don’t seem able to hold it in.

The female scream is just about the most effective alarm there is though, when a woman screams in fear, the world for 100s of yards in all directions comes to a halt, and men start flowing toward it.


43 posted on 05/04/2013 8:04:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: driftdiver

There’s another thing that might come into play here, and I might be wrong of course. It’s one thing to fire at a range, where a person has hearing protection. It’s another to hear live gunfire that’s LOUD AND CLOSE. You know what? I think the loud noise of the guns was scaring her even if some of it was coming from her partner, and she just wanted it to STOP. He did the right thing by continuing firing.


44 posted on 05/04/2013 8:06:13 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: driftdiver

Well I guess the pre-employment process should include being shot at by an AK-47 and measure the panic factor. However, I don’t think we would get many applicants.


45 posted on 05/04/2013 8:07:37 PM PDT by barney10
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To: ansel12

I do agree there. It is a sound like no other, and heads turn.


46 posted on 05/04/2013 8:07:58 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The panic and fear I felt when I ran out of beer in my younger days still has some memorable moments.


47 posted on 05/04/2013 8:11:30 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise; Lurker
It is good to shut up some of those old biddies that can't say a positive thing about anything.

But that's just the bitter son-in-law in me speaking. 3 ex mother-in-laws. You would have thought I would have gotten 1 good one at least.

/johnny

48 posted on 05/04/2013 8:11:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek

In a real emergency I’m like that. Things slow down and I can focus. Not that I always make the right choices mind you when shtf.

Actually it’s the little daily annoyances that can make me lose my sh!t and lose focus.


49 posted on 05/04/2013 8:16:49 PM PDT by Gefreiter (Do your job, hump your load, don't whine, and the world will be a better place.)
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To: driftdiver
yup... prolly Glock 17 and his second mag
50 posted on 05/04/2013 8:16:54 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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