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Obama Aide On Syria's Assad: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Do With Us?'
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Posted on 05/05/2013 7:19:04 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama Aide On Syria's Assad: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Do With Us?' Daniel Halper May 5, 2013 10:12 AM

President Barack Obama got ahead of himself and his advisers when he said that Syria using chemical weapons would cross a "red line," the New York Times reports.

“How can we attack another country unless it’s in self-defense and with no Security Council resolution?” an unnamed Obama administration official tells the paper. “If he drops sarin on his own people, what’s that got to do with us?”

But they concluded that drawing a firm line might deter Mr. Assad. In addition to secret messages relayed through Russia, Iran and other governments, they decided that the president would publicly address the matter.

Several officials said they recalled no discussion about the “red line” phrase but suspected that it came out of the election-year conversation about Iran and how far to allow its nuclear program to progress before being forced to take action. It was a concept that was “embedded in people’s prefrontal cortex,” one of the officials said.

While surprised at the president’s use of the term in regard to Syria on Aug. 20, advisers concluded that it had succeeded, at least for a while, since months passed with no chemical weapons attack.

But if the tough rhetoric "succeeded" for a time, it appears to have backfired in the long-run. Because Syria has now apparently used chemical weapons, and President Obama is not willing to do anything about it.

In fact, Obama is now downplaying any sort of response, even before settling on a specific response to Syrai crossing the red line.

“As a general rule, I don’t rule things out as commander in chief because circumstances change and you want to make sure that I always have the full power of the United States at our disposal to meet American national security interests,” Obama commented on Syria, while speaking at news conference in Costa Rica. Then, Obama went on to contradict himself.

“Having said that, I do not foresee a scenario in which boots on the ground in Syria, American boots on the ground in Syria, would not only be good for America, but also would be good for Syria,” the president said.


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And besides, POTUS has a golf game planned, vacation and tickets to see Beyonce............
1 posted on 05/05/2013 7:19:04 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
POTUS has a golf game planned, vacation and tickets to see Beyonce............

The fact that you didn't even mention that his Bulls are still in the NBA Playoffs, shows just how out-of-touch you really are...

;-)

2 posted on 05/05/2013 7:22:03 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Sub-Driver
More evidence that Hussein is NOT the person making the decisions in the White House.

Kind of scary actually — America doesn't know who it is that gives Hussein his instructions.

3 posted on 05/05/2013 7:25:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Sub-Driver
President Jarrett is reviewing her options and will inform Obama what to say, in due time.
4 posted on 05/05/2013 7:28:37 AM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Red line, shmed line, what difference, at this point, does it make?


5 posted on 05/05/2013 7:28:50 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell, Huxley and Rand warned us about 0bama's USA)
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To: Sub-Driver

He was only doing a poor imitation of Netanyahu anyway...actually TRYING to sound like a leader.


6 posted on 05/05/2013 7:33:15 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: Sub-Driver

President Obama is right on this. Why should we be involved in Syria?


7 posted on 05/05/2013 7:35:42 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Sub-Driver

Why would diplomacy try to avoid public ‘red lines’? Especially on something like chemical weapons? Because terrorists are generally lazy. They would much rather toss a bomb into a pressure cooker, or strap it to a person, than go through the effort to create some extensive remote timed detonation system.

And you can use common household chemicals to create a similar result to militarized chemical weapons. If the terrorists who are attempting to topple Assad can get the US military to topple him for them by killing a few hundred innocents, it is an event that they’re more than willing to fulfill. Not only will the military do their work, but they can sit back and point at the great Satin who is once again bombing innocents, and forcing their way into Islam’s sphere without invitation.

I have no love of Assad, but creating yet another terrorist Mecca after making so many is hardly in our interests.


8 posted on 05/05/2013 7:37:17 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Actually his anonymous adviser is right on this in your opinion. He would appear to originally have been wrong as you see it but is now coming around to your way of thinking.


9 posted on 05/05/2013 7:38:23 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Now you’ve done it. The neocons are staging a frontal attack on you right is very second.


10 posted on 05/05/2013 7:40:41 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: MinorityRepublican

“President Obama is right on this. Why should we be involved in Syria?”

Now there are two things Obozo and I agree on:

1. Let the Syrians kill each other.

2. We both like arugula,


11 posted on 05/05/2013 7:41:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm afraid to go visit any American college because of all the foreign students with bombs.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Leading from behind. REMF


12 posted on 05/05/2013 7:41:21 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: kingu

“you can use common household chemicals to create a similar result to militarized chemical weapons. If the terrorists who are attempting to topple Assad can get the US military to topple him for them by killing a few hundred innocents, it is an event that they’re more than willing to fulfill. Not only will the military do their work, but they can sit back and point at the great Satin who is once again bombing innocents, and forcing their way into Islam’s sphere without invitation.”

Excellent what if, and a very probable one.


13 posted on 05/05/2013 7:43:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm afraid to go visit any American college because of all the foreign students with bombs.)
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To: Sub-Driver
If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Do With Us?

I don't find anything inappropriate about that comment.

14 posted on 05/05/2013 7:43:17 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (I call it messin' with the kid.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The statement amounts to administrational dithering. Action is not required while dithering is in process.

History will determine that Obama lacked the ability to make decisions and dithered as a matter of policy


15 posted on 05/05/2013 7:44:25 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Grampa Dave

Agreed, a plague on both their houses. No matter who wins in Syria, we lose and Syrian Christians, what few are left, lose even bigger.


16 posted on 05/05/2013 7:48:29 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Sub-Driver

Doesn’t the _resident know he has more options than “boots on the ground?” Maybe he should ask Bill Clinton about the air war gambit.


17 posted on 05/05/2013 7:48:44 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: Sub-Driver

Ah, taking lessons from Hillary. “What difference does it make?”


18 posted on 05/05/2013 7:50:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Sub-Driver

So, if Israel kills a few Muslims that attacking Israel, I don’t think the mooselimb in the whitehut will say those same words.


19 posted on 05/05/2013 7:54:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Sub-Driver

What’s it got to do with us?

For once I agree with Obama!

1. If Muzzies want to kill other Muzzies, I don’t see why we should interfere. Just doing the job Americans refuse to do. I see no upside in getting involved, and certainly no upside that would warrant wasting military resources (paid for by taxes confiscated from people like me at - ultimately - the point of a gun), nor any upside that would warrant wasting the lives of our best young men like my neighbor’s son.

2. Since WWII we’ve never really made any lasting positive difference with such military escapades anyway.

3. The Syrians are depleting their stockpiles of WMD (which could be used against us) - another plus.

4. All the newspaper ink, airtime and bandwidth now being devoted to this conflict and the indecisiveness on Obama’s part, can now become better focused on things that really matter, like his possible upcoming impeachment trial.


20 posted on 05/05/2013 7:57:37 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I agree we have lost too many young men in these worthless wars


21 posted on 05/05/2013 8:10:46 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: OrioleFan
Leading from behind. REMF

REMF's and POG's far out rank any so called leaders of the behind!

They are never leaders and can never move into that slot.

They are the horses a$$ to the rest of the horse.

They react after the front of the horse made it's move.

And often they just shite.

22 posted on 05/05/2013 8:35:59 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: kingu

When I was much younger, I found this out by mixing ammonia and bleach when I was cleaning house.


23 posted on 05/05/2013 8:37:07 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: mel

So many lost and so many maimed, brain-damaged, horrible things — all in protracted wars-that-never-end, and only to satisfy the blood-thirst of the warmongers.


24 posted on 05/05/2013 8:39:07 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: MinorityRepublican

“President Obama is right on this. Why should we be involved in Syria?”

I agree. We shouldn’t be involved in foreign adventures unless there is some CLEAR U.S. economic or power interest, and then we should go in kick SERIOUS ass and then get the hell out.

Though given that almost every decision Obama has made as President has been antithetical to interests of working U.S. citizens and U.S. world power, he probably made the right decision for the wrong reasons.


25 posted on 05/05/2013 8:39:57 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Did Omoslem finally find a hellhole he won’t try to hand to the Mozz Bros?

Is that why he’s been shipping them weapons for a year?


26 posted on 05/05/2013 8:41:21 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I agree, we should not be involved...NOR should this F’ing guy be talking $hit like we are going to do something..more hollow bravado from the Man-Child.
27 posted on 05/05/2013 8:41:54 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: catnipman

In retrospect, the invasion of Iraq to remove Saddam and his sons was probably right. Only after “mission accomplished” banner, we should had gotten the hell out and left the Ba’athist Army in charge of Iraq. The mess afterwards was not our problem.


28 posted on 05/05/2013 8:50:09 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: shove_it

29 posted on 05/05/2013 8:50:30 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Sub-Driver
(April 2013) Obama commemorates anniversary of Rwandan genocide

President Obama commemorated the 19th anniversary of the genocide in Rwanda by expressing solidarity with the survivors and emphasizing the need to prevent such an event from happening again.

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/africa/292225-obama-commemorates-anniversary-of-rwandan-genocide

30 posted on 05/05/2013 8:53:31 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Meanwhile North Korea, Iran the Mexican Narco gangs, China and Russia are EAGERLY watching Fredo Obama fumble around with red line rhetoric.

There was a reason the Corleone’s NEVER put Fredo in charge.


31 posted on 05/05/2013 8:58:41 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Sub-Driver

Since there isn’t any good guys to protect in Syria, neither Assads forces or the rebel opposition, I say we should give them all sarin via airmail. They’ll be left thinking each side gassed the other. Problem solved!


32 posted on 05/05/2013 8:59:16 AM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver.
[zero] got ahead of himself and his advisers when he said that Syria using chemical weapons would cross a "red line," the New York Times reports. “How can we attack another country unless it’s in self-defense and with no Security Council resolution?” an unnamed Obama administration official tells the paper. “If he drops sarin on his own people, what’s that got to do with us?” But they concluded that drawing a firm line might deter Mr. Assad.... Several officials said they recalled no discussion about the “red line” phrase but suspected that it came out of the election-year conversation about Iran and how far to allow its nuclear program to progress... surprised at the president’s use of the term in regard to Syria on Aug. 20... But if the tough rhetoric "succeeded" for a time, it appears to have backfired in the long-run. Because Syria has now apparently used chemical weapons, and President Obama is not willing to do anything about it.

33 posted on 05/05/2013 8:59:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Sub-Driver; TigersEye; Fred Nerks

Obama Aide On Syria’s Assad: ‘If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Do With Us?’ Daniel Halper May 5, 2013 10:12 AM :>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

What it has to do with the left is very simple:

1) It likely proves that the WMD ingrediants and their containers were removed from Iraq to Syria prior to the Invasion of Iraq by the Coalition.The lefty dems, now Obama fascists said that there was no proof of WMD upon which the invasion was predicated, when in fact the majority of Sadam Husseins WMDs were trucked out of Iraq into Syria by the Russians and the French, who were involved in trading WMDs for oil.ITS TIME FOR THE LEFT TO EAT CROW ON THE ISSUE. Their attempt to rewrite history has failed.

2) What does it have to do with US? Well guess what it has to do with Israel, who are next on the Assad list of his defined vermin to be exterminated using WMDs!

Halper is a few bricks short of a load.Obama is so weak on these Syria/Libya issues that he looks like a tattered little guttersnip internationally. But he just keeps campaigning to redefine facts....until someone or something shuts him down.The bullet of reality will soon be catching up to him and his little pustulated, pestilantial, putrified running dogs like Halper.


34 posted on 05/05/2013 9:04:18 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Sub-Driver

Typical liberal, Obama is. Talks a big aggressive game about “red lines” but doesn’t want to deal with it when his mouth is writing checks his ass can’t—or won’t—cash.

I have no problem at this point with letting Syria sort its business out without our intervention unless they try and pull Israel into it, but the signals coming out of Washington now are so inconsistent—big talk and no action—that we’re probably going to end up hip-deep in that tar pit before this is all over.

}:-)4


35 posted on 05/05/2013 9:08:49 AM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t disagree. But Zero has been running smack about “red lines” and trying to actually sound like he’s got a pair of testicles (other than Michelle’s) for weeks now. All of a sudden, when the feces impact the rotary ventilator, he goes “Uh...LOOK! SQUIRREL!”

}:-)4


36 posted on 05/05/2013 9:10:37 AM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama Aide On Syria's Assad: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Do With Us?'

I agree with that statement.

37 posted on 05/05/2013 9:11:40 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: MinorityRepublican

Too bad he didn’t feel the same about Libya.


38 posted on 05/05/2013 9:12:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sub-Driver

In other words, ‘How dare you expect us to actually have guts.’


39 posted on 05/05/2013 9:20:54 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Sub-Driver

Just another reason other countries do not pay any attention to what this twerp has to say.


40 posted on 05/05/2013 9:32:10 AM PDT by Starstruck (Don't rest. We came close to the 2nd Amendment being field tested.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

We need to stay out of Syria. We should have kept Obastard’s filthy grubs off of Libya, too. There is no national interest in getting involved in any of these third-world carpholes.


41 posted on 05/05/2013 9:33:45 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Sub-Driver

The only thing keeping Obama from bombing Syria is Russia.

He bombed Libya because the UN told him to.

If Russia wasn’t blocking everything related to Syria in the UN we’d be waist deep already.


42 posted on 05/05/2013 9:40:06 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
President Obama is right on this. Why should we be involved in Syria?

WRONG! You would have been 100% right ONLY if Obama had stated that from the beginning instead of creating some fake "red line" which he drew for North Korea and Iran.

Now OUR enemies are watching our response.

Like you I also do no think we should have gotten involved. But we are now, unless the words of the USA mean NOTHING in the world.

43 posted on 05/05/2013 9:41:39 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hey “O”, don’t talk the big bad talk if you can’t back it up. What a smarmy POS!


44 posted on 05/05/2013 9:42:12 AM PDT by thegrump (The US is not at war with Islam, but Islam sure as H%!! is at war with the US.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Central bankers want Syria to turn its nationally-owned central bank into a privately-held central bank, i.e., to be absorbed into the BIS/globalist realm.

This is what happened in Libya.

Terrorism works on behalf of globalism, however only the uppermost echelons of terror leadership realize who they’re really working for. Most just see ideology, money, power and lust. They do not know the private dealings of the leadership of their organizations.


45 posted on 05/05/2013 9:43:02 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: dagogo redux
How can you be agreeing with Obama AND stating that this has NOTHING to do with us.

The man drew a RED LINE and it was crossed. North Korea and Iran are watching.

Me, I do not agree with Obama. We never should have gotten involved with Syria but we did.

46 posted on 05/05/2013 9:43:50 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan
President Obama is right on this. Why should we be involved in Syria? WRONG! You would have been 100% right ONLY if Obama had stated that from the beginning instead of creating some fake "red line" which he drew for North Korea and Iran. Now OUR enemies are watching our response. Like you I also do no think we should have gotten involved. But we are now, unless the words of the USA mean NOTHING in the world.

Agreed! When will the American people and Congress learn that anything this POS says is a lie.

47 posted on 05/05/2013 9:45:52 AM PDT by thegrump (The US is not at war with Islam, but Islam sure as H%!! is at war with the US.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“President Obama is right on this. Why should we be involved in Syria?”

Then say that. Don’t tell the American people how firm you are because your lap dogs, the Mediacrats will cover for you.

It isn’t he has no credibility. It’s the next President will have to clean up the mess.


48 posted on 05/05/2013 9:47:34 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Notary Sojac

“i don’t find anything inappropriate about that comment.”

Isn’t that why we went into Iraq?


49 posted on 05/05/2013 9:49:38 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Sub-Driver

An American president has to back up his own words. We know Obama is a cowardly leader, disloyal as he is being guided (misguided in truth against the US interests) by the UN. I wouldn’t trust Obama leading any war to be honest. We are doomed either way with him because he is already proving he leads by the political winds to appease his inner circle (who give him directions). He doesn’t care if our own people die nor care about innocent people who are being slandered (Turn your heads; it always works for the democrats) See Hillary. We all know what should happen but the world is prominently an appeaser to radicalism of one religion.


50 posted on 05/05/2013 9:57:27 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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