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Syria: Obama’s Own ‘Problem From Hell’
The American Interest ^ | 05-05-2013 | Walter Russell Mead

Posted on 05/05/2013 9:05:29 AM PDT by Kevin in California

The Syrian civil war exploded over the weekend, with mass murder and sectarian cleansing along the coast, Israeli airstrikes in Damascus, and confusion, frustration and paralysis in Washington to the point where the New York Times described President Obama as trapped “in a geopolitical box, his credibility at stake with frustratingly few good options.”


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; russia; syria; waronterror

1 posted on 05/05/2013 9:05:29 AM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Kevin in California

That is appropriate. Obama is from H*ll. Like most Democrats.


2 posted on 05/05/2013 9:11:07 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Kevin in California

The only problem The Won has with Syria is trying to make it look like he’s not in favor of the current situation.


3 posted on 05/05/2013 9:11:19 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kevin in California
the New York Times described President Obama as trapped “in a geopolitical box, his credibility at stake with frustratingly few good options.”

Sounds like a good time to "just pack up and go home."

After all, no other President in history has had to face problems as difficult as those facing our Affirmative Action President.

Too bad the world isn't set up to hand him Affirmative Action Problems.

4 posted on 05/05/2013 9:11:30 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Kevin in California

I don’t think any of us want another war much less one with these bastards..As for Obama he is a sissy and we know that..It is taking Israel to keep us all safe because the idiot and chief is such a coward..God help us if he ever wants us gone from the earth he has so many savage friends we could be wiped out very fast..


5 posted on 05/05/2013 9:13:46 AM PDT by PLD
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

And yet, this isn’t a pass-the-popcorn moment.

Thanks Kevin in California.


6 posted on 05/05/2013 9:15:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Steely Tom

Perfect comment! :’)


7 posted on 05/05/2013 9:18:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Kevin in California

If the president doesn’t want to address the problems in Syria, the mainstream media will tune out to make sure he doesn’t look bad.

The only thing I am sure of is that obama won’t be backing any side other than the muslim brotherhood.


8 posted on 05/05/2013 9:19:55 AM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Kevin in California

How’s that “line in the sand” working out?


9 posted on 05/05/2013 9:23:49 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

This is a “Line of Death”, you cross it, you die.

Ok...you cross this line, you die.

Cross this line, you die.

This line you, die.

Alright, that’s it, you come knocking on my door, I’m not coming out...nyaah!

-Robin Williams


10 posted on 05/05/2013 9:25:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kevin in California

Where is the red line now obozo? Guess it got covered up by all the camel dung he’s been throwing around lately.

He better o outside, hold up his finger and see which way the wind is blowing. From Benghaz you say? Uh Oh!


11 posted on 05/05/2013 9:26:07 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Kevin in California

Here we go ....


12 posted on 05/05/2013 9:27:21 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: mardi59

Obama lies every time he speaks. Why is this any different?

To quote Hillary ....


13 posted on 05/05/2013 9:28:21 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Kevin in California

0bama’s credibility is not really an issue, as I see it, that ship has sailed. There is no worse reason in the universe to become involved in Syria. We have no business there and nothing to gain from it. Let them fight it out.


14 posted on 05/05/2013 9:32:56 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: boycott

“If the president doesn’t want to address the problems in Syria, the mainstream media will tune out to make sure he doesn’t look bad.”

I notice it’s not on Google’s Top Stories.


15 posted on 05/05/2013 9:33:09 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Kevin in California

Wow. O is having to deal with muslim dictatorships. This is way harder than anything GW had to deal with.

Except GW did have to deal with it, except he didn’t have the advantage of a loyal opposition and he certainly never had the advantage of a supportive media.

Faced with the very same thing, he made a decision to take down the loudest and most aggressive of a crowd of bullies. That made everything O is doing possible.


16 posted on 05/05/2013 9:36:05 AM PDT by marron
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To: Kevin in California

Only a leftist dipsh*t like Obama would see this as a problem.

Syria is in chaos with a Baathist dictator and Al Qaeda jihadis bashing each others brains out. And what is the problem with that?

Israel, who is totally capable of taking care of itself, is just cleaning up the mess of missiles and chemical weapons that can leak out. Its also using the opportunity to take Hezbollah (and therefore Iran) down a few notches.

If anything, the USA should be quietly supporting this opportunity.


17 posted on 05/05/2013 9:40:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kevin in California
"“in a geopolitical box, his credibility at stake with frustratingly few good options.”"

The author didn't consider the best option - STAY THE HELL OUT. It's their problem.

18 posted on 05/05/2013 9:43:12 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Kevin in California
Gee, even the NYT can't spin this to cover for the Boy Blunder POTUS. That's what happens when you combine a community organizer agitator with a local civil war (and secretly) take sides. There are NO good guys in this shootout; there are only Bad and Worse bad guys.

Naturally, Boy Blunder's real brain, Valerie Jarrett, had him back the worst bad guys and now he cannot just vote “present’ and walk away without looking like a complete fool. [Well duh, Barry and Valerie.] So, POTUS dithers and dithers. The Israelis will do what seems to them in their best interests and Barry doesn't have a clue. Wait...I know...go do another 18 holes on the golf course or take a vacation or do a fundraiser. That's the answer...ignore the problem.

19 posted on 05/05/2013 9:43:19 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Kevin in California
"The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries." --Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010
20 posted on 05/05/2013 9:45:11 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Kevin in California

Oh...give Carney a chance to spin Monday:

For the Obama Administration, Syria is simply a “pre-contingent, oversea contingency operation”.

After all, US advisors in Jordan might be considered...well...”grief conselors”.

Russian Special Forces in Syria are...shall we say...”mentoring”.

The Israeli air strike was just a “tangential encounter” with Syrian airspace.

The White House Press Corp will lap it up at the dog bowl.


21 posted on 05/05/2013 9:50:51 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Kevin in California

Maybe like Iran vs. Iraq in the ‘80’s, they’re busy killing each other, just make sure neither gets too far ahead.


22 posted on 05/05/2013 9:59:35 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Kevin in California

Obama is still too busy campaigning to worry about such tripe.


23 posted on 05/05/2013 10:04:33 AM PDT by nesnah
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

So I guess you’re fine with Iran taking over Syria.


24 posted on 05/05/2013 10:19:23 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Kevin in California

There is nothing credible about this empty headed King playboy of America the great and holy King Obama.


25 posted on 05/05/2013 10:38:55 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: mardi59

A red line covered in blood is hard to see.


26 posted on 05/05/2013 10:47:49 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Kevin in California

Everyone talks about Zero’s ‘line in the sand’ but few mention the no bluff line drawn by Putin. I believe Putin, long before Benghazi, told Zero to stay the hell out of meddling with al Quida in Syria. Putin well knows that Zero was a big player in all the Jihad chaos that has taken place in the Middle East and he is fed up with it. Benghazi was Putin’s wake up call to Zero - I TOLD YOU TO STOP IT OR ELSE. Zero now knows Syria is red hot and that he better not touch Syria.


27 posted on 05/05/2013 10:49:48 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: what's up

Iran is already in charge of Syria. There would be no change.


28 posted on 05/05/2013 11:27:54 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Kevin in California

Surprised Obama hasn’t praised the terrorist who did Chris Stevens up the ass for coming out as a homosexual. What has Obama done about Benghazi? Jailed a probably Christian filmmaker for an obscure unconstitutional sounding parole violation. Not being allowed to use the Internet could be a freedom of speech violation as well as interference with his right to work. Showed us already Obama’s line in the sand. Invade our embassy, rape the ambassador from behind, then murder him and Obama will do absolutely nothing. A red line or line in the sand meant something for the Bushs. Obama’s “line in the sand” is a joke. Did Obama ever stand up to a bully in his entire life?


29 posted on 05/05/2013 11:50:23 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: dfwgator

If you set out to kill the king then you must kill the king.


30 posted on 05/05/2013 12:19:23 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's EconomTheiics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Iran has full say over wmd stockpiles, military forces and all gov’t institutions? Really? I’m sure that would be news to the Ba’ath party and Assad.


31 posted on 05/05/2013 12:27:40 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

What you are or think you are sure of and what I am or think I am sure of in that part of the world amounts to nothing. There is no way our involvement in Syria would improve anything for us because we cannot predict the outcome, nor is there evidence of any hunger for anything resembling a democratically run state. Freedom, to them, is apostasy. That the government considers itself Ba’athist did not stop them from aligning with coalition forces against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War I. No matter what conditions we would seek to impose, the proposition for us is to enforce it by force, and see it deteriorate to default Al Queda control as soon as we leave or draw down forces. Our forces over there are or would be just a magnet for resistance. Should Assad lose power, that would just accelerate things towards AQ or other Islamist control.

If we are primarily concerned with the proliferation of chemical weapons stockpiled by Syria, the Israelis are 50 times better on top of that situation than we will ever be, and our intelligence (particularly under 0bama) has proven it is as likely to turn against Israel as towards any given Arab state. Thus, Israel is probably reluctant to share same with us. Very understandably. I’d like to keep it that way, consider present circumstances. We don’t get Arab logic, they don’t get ours. What we do in the name of imposing or allowing “freedom” is what they hate. It runs counter to their religion. I’m perfectly happy to let Israel take of whatever business they see as pressing and allow Muslims to wipe out other Muslims to their heart’s content. It’s a human tragedy but one that we cannot control and certainly cannot benefit from policing.


32 posted on 05/05/2013 1:32:45 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Kevin in California

I think you guys are taking Mr. affirmative action leader out of context: what he was really saying is a line in the sand at the sand trap on hole 14.


33 posted on 05/05/2013 3:28:43 PM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
You seem to think freedom is the only consideration.

But as I said, a full-scale takeoever of Syria by Iran is a possibility and in that case we are talking about a national defense reason for involvement.

Sure, if you believe that Israel is Iran's only enemy you can try to leave the situation to them. However, it is naive to think that Iran won't continue to use their influence against us. And, if so,pre-emptive action on our part would be desirable, both to support Israel as the only democracy in the area and for our own interest and self-defense.

34 posted on 05/05/2013 4:36:35 PM PDT by what's up
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