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An armed march on Washington?
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Posted on 05/05/2013 9:08:58 AM PDT by chessplayer

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This stunt is beyond stupid.
1 posted on 05/05/2013 9:08:58 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

An incredibly, terribly bad idea.


2 posted on 05/05/2013 9:10:20 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: chessplayer

Thank you. I agree.


3 posted on 05/05/2013 9:10:43 AM PDT by married21
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To: chessplayer
The upside is it would force the feral government to show its fangs and reveal once and for all what they have in store for the rest of us.
4 posted on 05/05/2013 9:11:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: dinodino

I’m rabidly pro gun and I think this is a mega bad idea.


5 posted on 05/05/2013 9:12:15 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: chessplayer

Yes. It plays right into the hands of the left.
Better would be every gun owner using 2 dollar bills to buy stuff


6 posted on 05/05/2013 9:12:18 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Yorlik803

Kokesh is a absolute nut.


7 posted on 05/05/2013 9:13:46 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: chessplayer

Don’t EVEN!


8 posted on 05/05/2013 9:14:01 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: chessplayer

Big-Libertarian. Does Antiwar.com ring any bells?

This is just the rabble of lefties under false flag.


9 posted on 05/05/2013 9:15:07 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Tijeras_Slim

He could be a plant by the regime. Wouldnt put anything past this bunch


10 posted on 05/05/2013 9:16:11 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Yorlik803

I know he is a plant. Just like the Westboro kooks are plants.


11 posted on 05/05/2013 9:17:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: chessplayer

Kokesh is a freak. I’m not surprised the hardcore Paulestinians and Troofers are hooked up with him, given his activities protesting against the Iraq war.

There are ways to demonstrate support for the Second Amendment, but I don’t think this is a good one. It’s going to play right into the anti-gunners’ hands. “ARMED MOB MARCHING ON WASHINGTON! EEK! WINGNUTS!”

}:-)4


12 posted on 05/05/2013 9:17:33 AM PDT by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: chessplayer
Libertarian activist and radio host Adam Kokesh

Adam Kokesh is dirtbag who was part of Iraq Veterans Against the War. Not surprising that Ron Paul is supporting this POS.

13 posted on 05/05/2013 9:18:08 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: chessplayer

Do something constructive.........JOIN AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE NRA.


14 posted on 05/05/2013 9:18:52 AM PDT by True Grit
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To: chessplayer

I agree this is beyond stupid..


15 posted on 05/05/2013 9:20:26 AM PDT by PLD
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To: chessplayer

The NRA, Republicans, and Conservatives need to get as much distance from this idiot as possible. The Left is salivating to connect him and his supporters to the Pro Gun movement and Conservatives which would be wrong but the left doesn’t care about facts when it comes to advancing their agenda.


16 posted on 05/05/2013 9:21:32 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: chessplayer

March without the guns. This IS a dumb idea.


17 posted on 05/05/2013 9:22:29 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: chessplayer
This has to be a publicity stunt. A march of this type would not secure a permit thereby, under law, the assembly would be unlawful. The measures would devolve into the extreme probably with each side facing the other to the point of violence. Congress would go nuts, the media would go nuts, the zer0 crowd is already nuts, and this would serve to guarantee big trouble via legislation. I agree ... a very bad idea.
18 posted on 05/05/2013 9:24:43 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
Its fine to do at open carry state capitols but bad news to prod the feds unnecessarily. In open carry states you can actually get some OK press. You won't get good press doing it in DC.

MI:Hundreds gather for pro-gun rally at state Capitol
19 posted on 05/05/2013 9:34:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Martin Luther King did this to Bull Connor in Birmingham 50 year ago.


20 posted on 05/05/2013 9:35:23 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: chessplayer

Only DC police, Feds, and politicians should be allowed to carry loaded weapons. The serfs should crawl to them and beg for their rights to an air supply. It doesn’t matter what the freedom-wingers do, their enemies in the media will tar them with lies and hatred.


21 posted on 05/05/2013 9:36:01 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: chessplayer

At this point in time, doing something that could/will get your ass thrown in jail is beyond stupid.
Talk about falling into a trap! Anyone that participates in any such march has fallen in it. And stepped in it.


22 posted on 05/05/2013 9:36:13 AM PDT by Tupelo (The Government lies, then the media lies to cover up the government lies.)
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To: no-to-illegals

You could be right. He probably doesn’t care how much damage this stunt would do to the pro-2nd amendment cause, as long as he gets his personal publicity.


23 posted on 05/05/2013 9:39:35 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

This should go well....

24 posted on 05/05/2013 9:40:50 AM PDT by llevrok (2013: America is in a cold civil war.)
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To: no-to-illegals

At what point does the populace marched arm on DC? Another rally in DC, probably just a waste of time. What about a group of 10,000 armed citizens standing across the River in Virginia? Regardless, the liberal media isn’t going to give a conservative movement positive publicity...ever. Worry about playing the games by their rules hasn’t worked yet, so why worry about it. Some of the liberal media barely get enough readers or watchers to make any bit of difference.

Joining the NRA? Why, so they can essentially give someone a positive rating on the 2nd Amendment, while the individual shreds the rest of the Constitution? I wish the NRA would stop preaching about our so called 2nd Amendment right, and starting talking about inalienable right/s. Want to stand behind the Constitution, grea. But what happens should it be amended and the 2nd Amendment ruled obsolete?

The question that no one seems to want to answer is where to place line that shouldn’t be crossed. The threshold for the Founding Fathers was a hell of a lot lower than what we are experiencing today...


25 posted on 05/05/2013 9:42:10 AM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: chessplayer

Agreed. Besides the American people are simply not ready for direct action. We are still in the talking phase. Being in the talking phase is one step up from the “feeling of malaise” phase.


26 posted on 05/05/2013 9:44:17 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Longbow1969

And I see that antiwar’s Justin “Justine” Raimondo has written a piece called “The Coup”, about how Big Business is going to murder Ron Paul.

Read in your vomitorium.


27 posted on 05/05/2013 9:44:55 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No, it would enable the federales to confiscate. It presents them with a gift-wrapped boggie-person.


28 posted on 05/05/2013 9:45:14 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: chessplayer

It’s a set-up; stay the hell away from it!


29 posted on 05/05/2013 9:45:18 AM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: chessplayer

This protest will have no bearing on what the government will do in any case. It may rush it along a little, but this event will not define the heart and soul of this government...that has already been done. These people have a right to march, whether this government or you want to recognize that right is irrelevant.


30 posted on 05/05/2013 9:46:50 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Seaplaner
No, it would enable the federales to confiscate.

They can always manufacture a reason.

31 posted on 05/05/2013 9:47:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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No, it would enable the federales to confiscate.

Confiscation is always followed by extermination.

Knowing that, a lot of people will elect to die fighting.

32 posted on 05/05/2013 9:48:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: chessplayer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3015813/posts

I already posted a lot on this loser Kokesh, I wont repost it here

this is an earlier thread on the same thing, different source

STAY AWAY FROM THE TRAITOR ADAM KOKESH!


33 posted on 05/05/2013 9:48:18 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Telling the truth about RINOS, PAULTARDS, Liberals and Muslims has become hate speech)
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To: chessplayer

What I would like to see is a Million Magazine March.
Not rifles, not pistols, just 1 million gun owners showing up with empty, high capacity magazines. Still makes a statement, technically an act of civil disobedience ( although we can claim we’re on our way to a network broadcast)
but no threat of violence.


34 posted on 05/05/2013 9:53:59 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: chessplayer

I agree that this is a bad idea at the present time, and I have my concerns about this particular organizer. However, keep in mind that Sam Adams used similar tactics. He provoked confrontations with the British that were used to turn the people against the British. We may need to consider such tactics at some point.


35 posted on 05/05/2013 9:56:46 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: voicereason
Only one problem with your post (imho). It is not yet time to become an outlaw and join the outlaws who claim to represent us (the People). That time may come though I pray it never shall; for at that point all semblance of the law shall dissolve. Should the time come ... I will stand with you then but for now am not interested in seeing all semblance of the law dissolved for this one single march.
36 posted on 05/05/2013 9:57:24 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dforest

Use pitchforks instead.


37 posted on 05/05/2013 9:58:19 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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In the zer0 world of D.C. am not certain pitchforks would obtain a marching permit. D.C. is on edge. My thought for the reason D.C. is on edge is they know the People have figured out what D.C. is up to and realize the People know their representatives are not doing the Peoples’ business but are instead doing other nations’ business against the People. Imho, this would give D.C. plenty of reasons to go ahead and finish the People. Imho, the People are holding their own for the moment. The Senate did not pass the first step of registration of firearms. As long as this holds and the Supreme Court does not hand down a 5 - 4 decision against firearms ownership there is a reason to march but not in the fashion being proposed. Should a 5 - 4 decision be handed down in the Supreme Court against firearm ownership or should Congress enact legislation requiring firearm registration it would then be time (imho) to march with pitchforks, tar and feathers. Till then ... I pray the People will not do something stupid. We should wait till the Supreme Court or Congress does something stupid first (imho).


38 posted on 05/05/2013 10:01:30 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: voicereason
The threshold for the Founding Fathers was a hell of a lot lower than what we are experiencing today..

Actually quite the opposite. Our revolutionary war was decades in the making with our founders doing everything they could to prevent a war and they didn't start it.
39 posted on 05/05/2013 10:06:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Thank You creek!


40 posted on 05/05/2013 10:07:53 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: voicereason
At what point does the populace marched arm on DC?

Never. We want a divorce, not war. If they won't give us a peaceful divorce, they will be responsible for the violence. We will have to win in the hinterlands. The end resut might allow restoration of the Constitution over all of the US, or just a truce that allows the Red States to go their own way. Either way is fine with me, I have no interest in subjugating the commies of New England and the Pacific coast. Their empire will fall of its own accord soon enough, and they will eventually beg to return to the Free United States.

41 posted on 05/05/2013 10:13:48 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: RaceBannon

And be very, very, very wary of those who either advocate for this or encourage participation.

This is a trap.


42 posted on 05/05/2013 10:15:18 AM PDT by sport
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks chessplayer.
"[Kokesh] marched in uniform in mock patrols for the anti-war movement, paraded around holding an upside-down American flag (see Jonn Lilyea for more), was arrested for defacing signs, and traveled to Germany to urge soldiers to abandon their posts and seek aid and comfort with his anti-war minions. Kokesh, believe it or not, is now running as a Republican candidate for Congress in New Mexico. And, believe it or not, he is getting positive exposure on at least one Fox News show. He has the backing of Ron Paul, the Republican Liberty Caucus, and the 9/12 Project. The New Mexico Republican Party has its head in the sand. If you have friends and family in New Mexico, make sure they know who the real Adam Kokesh is. He is an anti-war smear merchant in GOP clothing. Spread the word."
What's his FR nick?


43 posted on 05/05/2013 10:29:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Hardraade; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

/bingo!


44 posted on 05/05/2013 10:34:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: vetvetdoug

[[The NRA, Republicans, and Conservatives need to get as much distance from this idiot as possible.]]

They need to come out right now and state emphatically that they are NOT associated with this fella- but of course, they will wait unti lthe damage is doen and hten try to patch the leaks in the boat with bubble gum


45 posted on 05/05/2013 10:40:05 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: chessplayer

dang how times have changed, I can remember when I lived in SE DC up on 4th, street. We had a family friend who would take me shooting, it was a 3 mile walk to the rear of a place called Camp Simms, in the woods behind this National Guard site was an outdoor firing range, an open unattended site.

We would openly carry several firearms to our afternoon of shooting, including pistols, .45, 1911 model, 9MM luger, 12 ga pump, M1 garand, M1 carbine. Never in all the trips we made did we ever have anyone say anything to us or have the police come and talk to us, and I mean NEVER.

But this march is a bad idea, it shouldn’t be done on the 4th, and it needs more like 500,000 marchers.


46 posted on 05/05/2013 10:40:11 AM PDT by stockpirate (Planned Parenthood, murdering black children one baby at a time.......where is the outrage)
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To: voicereason
The question that no one seems to want to answer is where to place line that shouldn’t be crossed.

Agreed. I'm surprised at the timidity of some posters on this thread. Does anyone want to expound on why this is such a "terrible" idea? I mean, at what point do we say "Enough!" We WILL fight you! And we WILL die if necessary to defend our rights. Better men and women than we have purchased these liberties at that great price. Should we, as heirs to their gift, be unwilling to make a similar sacrifice?

47 posted on 05/05/2013 10:40:13 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Hardraade
And I see that antiwar’s Justin “Justine” Raimondo has written a piece called “The Coup”, about how Big Business is going to murder Ron Paul.

These anti-war, supposedly libertarian, leftist are nuts. Many are paultards and are trying to infiltrate the conservative movement and become the face of the "new" Republican Party. The loon Ron Paul does support many of these people. Much as I like a lot of what Rand has done, I don't really trust him - I have a suspicion he is much more like his nutty father than he lets on.

48 posted on 05/05/2013 10:42:08 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: voicereason

The only time I plan on “marching on Washington” armed is if a current resident of the White House refuses to become a former resident of the White House. In that case, the people would hae to act.
As it is now, I will not mess with them as long as they don’t mess with me. No sense stirring up a hornet’s nest.


49 posted on 05/05/2013 10:46:59 AM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: IronJack

Oh, good grief. All it would take is for a few marchers all juiced up on liquid courage starting a shootout with the cops. Just what we need, right? NOT!


50 posted on 05/05/2013 10:49:14 AM PDT by chessplayer
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