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'Israel to join Turkey, Arab states to stop Iran'
Jerusalem Post ^ | Sunday, May 5, 2013 | staff

Posted on 05/05/2013 2:03:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

British newspaper reports Israel will agree to joint effort with regional powers to counter Iran, "fundamentalist crescent".

Israel has been working toward a cooperative agreement in compliance with Turkey and three Arab states to implement an allied system of detection technologies to defend against Iranian ballistic projectiles, British newspaper The Sunday Times reported.

The initiative, termed "4+1", reportedly proposes joint efforts to be taken by Israel along with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan to share access to radar and anti-missile technologies, according to the Times.

Under the initiative, Israeli technicians would gain access to data from radar technologies in Saudi Arabia and the Emirates in return for allowing experts from its partners to tap into Jerusalem's anti-missile and advanced radar defense systems, the report said.

The plan, brokered by the United States, aims to create a "moderate crescent" in the region in contrast to the "fundamentalist crescent" consisting of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Hezbollah, the report said.

Israel views "4+1" as an ambitious plan presented by Washington as "the Americans are working on a regional alliance to deter and contain Tehran,” the Times reported an Israeli official as saying.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; israel; israelturkeyalliance; jordan; kurdistan; lebanon; russia; saudiarabia; syria; turkey; unitedarabemirates; waronterror

Iranian ballisitic missile launched at war game. Photo: Ho New / Reuters

Iranian ballisitic missile launched at war game. Photo: Ho New / Reuters

1 posted on 05/05/2013 2:03:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

from the “IOW, it’s true” desk:

Turkey denies anti-Iran defence pact
http://en.trend.az/regions/met/turkey/2147114.html


2 posted on 05/05/2013 2:04:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

and of course, they must have forgotten to call the Bamster, cause he sure wants to be up front as he leads from behind.


3 posted on 05/05/2013 2:05:19 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Arab regimes have their public anti-American, anti-Israeli stance. That’s for the consumption of the masses. Then, they have the practical behind the scenes pragmatism you must have if you’re going to survive in a bad neighborhood. Allegedly, Israel has used a Saudi airbase as a refueling stop. When it hit the press they were publically angry at “the lies.” But, apparently, they had opened a corridor in which there were no anti-air assets.

I haven’t seen anything on this in several years now. Anybody have the latest?


4 posted on 05/05/2013 2:08:18 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SunkenCiv
A step towards overflight attack corridors for the IAF against Iran.

Bases to refuel and rearm would go a long way too. One in Turkey and one in Saudi.

5 posted on 05/05/2013 2:09:05 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian; SunkenCiv; All

A nice step forward if it is real and can be held together.


6 posted on 05/05/2013 2:12:53 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: SunkenCiv
Iran showing to the World how unreliable their launch systems are with clumsy Photoshopping


7 posted on 05/05/2013 2:15:08 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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Iran’s proxy in Iraq accuses Turkey of fomenting Sunni protests in Iraq. The usual shills support that ridiculous claim, which is at its base merely projection of Iran’s mismanagement via its Shiite puppet regime.

I’ve been coming around to the view that these various civil disintegrations (basically, implosions of various single party states in the region) are massively financed proxy wars between the Iranians and various Arab states, and among the rich Arabian states, and that ultimately it is about the territory of Saudi Arabia — hence the struggles between the various factions in the GCC and within each of its member states.

Why Maliki Must Go
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/opinion/why-prime-minister-maliki-must-resign.html?_r=0

James Zogby: Iranians quickly wearing out their welcome in the neighborhood
http://www.freep.com/article/20130505/OPINION05/305050049/Iran-public-opinion

You can’t fight alone: The Middle East’s coming proxy war
[it ain’t comin’, it’s here, has been for a while now]
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/70711/World/Region/You-cant-fight-alone-the-Middle-East%E2%80%99s-coming-prox.aspx

Turkey delivers harshest attack yet on ‘butcher’ Assad
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/May-05/216087-turkey-delivers-harshest-attack-yet-on-butcher-assad.ashx

[snip] “If God permits, we will see this butcher, this murderer receive his judgement in this world ... and we will praise (God) for it,” Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.

“You will pay a very, very heavy price for showing your courage to the babies in the cradle, the courage you cannot show others,” he told a cheering crowd of lawmakers and party activists in a town near Ankara. [/snip]

Main opposition leader accuses Erdogan of leading Turkey toward authoritarian rule
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/main-opposition-leader-accuses-erdogan-of-leading-turkey-toward-authoritarian-rule.aspx?pageID=238&nID=46231&NewsCatID=338


8 posted on 05/05/2013 2:15:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“fundamentalist crescent”...?!?!? => Trust that uttering those words under the Obama Administration is a career ender!


9 posted on 05/05/2013 2:27:57 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Gen.Blather; Former Proud Canadian; gleeaikin; Recovering Ex-hippie

That’s true, and the monstrous, terrorist pseudostates like the PA and Hamas are also faces of the Arab regimes. Despite our usual stance around here, there is moderation among the Muzzies — but only when they need something.

The rumors (3 or 4 years ago?) about the IAF repurposing an obsolete airbase in n. Saudi Arabia was denied at the time, and may have been just some anti-Saud agitprop, but it’s likely that Israel has been participating on the down-low with Saudi AF and anti-terrorism training, and that it has been going on on for some years now, perhaps as long ago as the Gulf War.

Remember years ago, when that self-proclaimed Mahdi took over the Grand Mosque in Mecca? It took two weeks and the efforts of a good chunk of their entire army for the House of Saud to prevail against those nuts, in a tiny little spot, with no resupply for the jihadists. The fighting in the honeycomb of underground catacombs was so awful that the government had a construction company (ironically, I think it was Bin Laden’s) fill most of those tunnels and chambers with concrete.

The Saudis got so desperate they obtained help in the form of analysis from three agents of French intelligence; also the Wahhab imams extracted some concessions from the regime in order to declare the “Mahdi” and his followers apostate. If the House of Saud had been on the ball, they’d killed the Wahhab imams first, then the Mahdists, and afterward started systematically clearing the oilfields of Shia (that’s where the Saudi Shia live, figures, huh?) and resettled the entire oilpatch with foreign workers from, for example, the United States. Generally speaking, US workers don’t blow up their workplaces, start oilwell fires, or strap bombs to themselves.


10 posted on 05/05/2013 2:32:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh no,...this is reallly getting dangerous.


11 posted on 05/05/2013 2:38:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: SunkenCiv

Wasn’t it someone in the Obama Administration that leaked Israel’s plans to use Ajerbajan or Armenia or somewhere around there to launch an attack on Iran that was then scrapped as it was made public. Don’t think the Israel will forget about that.


12 posted on 05/05/2013 2:39:47 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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To: SunkenCiv
The counties mentioned don't really like Israel but they fear the nut-jobs in Iran even more. Since an unhinged Iran could end up smoking them, too, cooperation w/Israel is just smart business.
13 posted on 05/05/2013 2:41:28 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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and from the FRchives:
14 posted on 05/05/2013 3:46:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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related:

German Air Force In Training for Iran Strike
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2805083/posts


15 posted on 05/05/2013 3:46:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Fitzy_888

:’) Tru dat.


16 posted on 05/05/2013 3:49:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Technically, it’s getting even *more* dangerous. ;’)


17 posted on 05/05/2013 3:49:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Sheapdog

It was, good to remind us!


18 posted on 05/05/2013 3:52:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: JPG

/bingo


19 posted on 05/05/2013 3:52:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Gen.Blather

I would guess this is one of many topics discussed in the super secret antiIran coalition war room that has been in existence for years. The enemy in the region, the common enemy is Iran. Syria is an Iranian surrogate.

America can’t bomb Syria. Saudi Arabia can’t bomb Syria, Qatar and Turkey can’t bomb Syria....... no cause.

Israel can claim self defense and did. None of the above complained because they all agreed to the action


20 posted on 05/05/2013 3:59:46 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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