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Microsoft Prepares U-Turn On Windows 8
Financial Times [via CNBC] ^ | 07 May 2013 | Richard Waters

Posted on 05/06/2013 11:41:57 PM PDT by zeestephen

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To: Oberon

...which is great if all you need is one laptop. :D


61 posted on 05/07/2013 5:11:33 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Organic Panic
What they ought to do is just have two versions. Touchscreen windows 8 and workstation windows 8.

Or

Play or Productivity versions.

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62 posted on 05/07/2013 5:12:42 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ClearCase_guy

When I was researching a recent smart phone purchase I thought of a similar device. A display-based docking hub for all devices to interface with. I think they’re technically feasible but didn’t see anyone offering one yet.

What I envisioned was a 32”+ 1920x1080 2ms LED touch screen (why not?) display with 32GB+ RAM, quad core processor, 1TB SSD, g/n/ac WiFI and have multiple HDMI and USB3 ports for connecting/charging devices.

It would run a custom Linux OS for device support and a GUI for host selection via the HDMIs and WiFi interfaces in addition to its own computing applications.

It would use VMs to run the Linux host OS and all connected guest OSs via a secure hypervisor. Connected devices which do not present a guest OS would use the Linux host for device and application access.

The hypervisor feature is required to prevent it from becoming a multi-platform virus hub between guest OSs. In essence it would be a multi-platform communications hub for devices and VM host for connected OSs via root access to their host device or alternatively, a hypervisor would spin up for their access if the device is not trusted for direct (Linux host) access. For guest OSs Read/writes would be sent to their host devices but all interaction would be via the hub.

Well, that’s my device and I’m sticking to it.


63 posted on 05/07/2013 5:22:59 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Right Wing Assault
What is wrong with making it look essentially like the old version and letting people activate new features when and if they want to?

Indeed. Do anything you want under the covers to improve operation and stability but stop forcing user interface changes.

64 posted on 05/07/2013 5:23:38 AM PDT by ken in texas (I respect my elders but keep finding fewer of them.)
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To: republicangel

My greatest frustration of late with Windows 8 has been trying to find control panel.

I’m not using 8 at the moment, but I believe Winkey+X will bring it up.


65 posted on 05/07/2013 5:25:53 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: The KG9 Kid
2008R2 server is superior in every way to 2003. What is your company going to do when 2003 runs off of support in roughly a year? They better have a plan to migrate and they better hope all other products are compatible. It's simply negligent to be running any large installation with software that is off support and/or soon to be off support.

Personally, I hope Apple makes a move to dominate the front office OS, but I know they won’t. They’re sort of winning it now without even trying anyway...

If your definition of sorta winning is not even trying to expand a tiny market share with not a fraction the products they need to compete...then ya, they are winning.

Apple will be fine as long as they stick to niche, ie: making phones, tablets, and other pretty gadgets. If they try to get into the less glamorous field of servers and enterprise operating systems they are out of their depth.

66 posted on 05/07/2013 5:27:06 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: stilloftyhenight
I hope Microsoft also does a u-turn on Outlook Express! The Outlook format is a pita!

You should look into Windows Live Mail. It has served me quite well.
67 posted on 05/07/2013 5:29:42 AM PDT by freebird5850 (The only good thing about Barry getting re-elected is now we get to see him fall from a higher place)
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To: freebird5850

Live Mail has been absorbed into Outlook.


68 posted on 05/07/2013 5:33:02 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Domandred

That and the boot to desktop feature, makes Win 8 usable!


69 posted on 05/07/2013 5:52:59 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: republicangel
My greatest frustration of late with Windows 8 has been trying to find control panel

Yep. I've been in the computer software biz for 28 years and been using Windows since 3.1 (in addition to Unix).

At Easter, a relative asked me to take a look at his computer, which was running Windows 8 - I had to ask my 13 yr old son where the Control Panel was...

The Windows Key + X takes you right to it, I have learned.

70 posted on 05/07/2013 5:54:31 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Domandred

So nice of them after some of us have spent 6 or 7 months learning an entirely new way to navigate.


71 posted on 05/07/2013 5:59:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Democrat_media
"...they could have just done a windows 8 version for the tablet and one for the PC."

Sometimes the obvious appears to escape Microsoft. I was forced to replace a PC that I used to control a CNC rig (old hardware croaked). The ONLY option I could find quickly had Windows 8 installed (an HP "all-in-one"). So, I get it in place, install all the CNC software, update said software to the Windows 8 compatible versions (which took a week of elapsed time), and get the CNC system up and running...sort of. I am getting odd "glitches" in the machined output, which I was NOT seeing with the WinXP system. And the hardware/software (Roland) support has been completely useless. So I am now looking for an older laptop or all-in-one which "does" run and have WinXP installed.

We "had" been looking to upgrade the CNC system with another newer and better featured Roland machine....not gonna happen.

Both Microsoft AND Roland can KMFA.

72 posted on 05/07/2013 6:00:23 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Organic Panic

73 posted on 05/07/2013 6:01:31 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: The KG9 Kid

A “bet the company moment?”

With Windows 8, it looks like Ballmer rolled the dice and they came up “snake eyes.”

I’m glad I have Windows 7 on my desktop.


74 posted on 05/07/2013 6:03:52 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: Cyropaedia

I have wondered about that myself? It seems to me ever since Ballmer took over the top spot running Microsoft, Microsoft has gone into the toilet.


75 posted on 05/07/2013 6:40:21 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: taildragger
"In their politics and product culture, Microsoft ='s the GOP, Apple ='s the DNC, and Ubuntu / Unix ='s the Tea Party Conservatives..."

And instead of listening to what the People want and need, they're too busy trying to 'be Cool' - make stupid commercials of dancers on table-tops, 'WOW-ing' us with detachable keyboards clicking. Just like the e-GOP. They just don't get it.
76 posted on 05/07/2013 6:49:06 AM PDT by time4good
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To: zeestephen

I bought My SO one of those HP touchscreen fiascos. Her last computer was a school system rebuild held together with wire and chewing gum.

(Why do people have a website browser icon for every place in electronic space as part of their desktop display?)

I bought my Lenovo when Win7 came out. I was working in a Louisiana employment office watching all their Win98SE’s go nuts with the websites by the employers. In 2009, they ripped the guts out and refitted to run Vista. You might say that after owning XP machines, then using Vista machines at a place of work, WIN7 is a better deal.

I see no reason to attempt any shenanigans with WIN8. I ordered my machine to be built to mil-spec. I know how to treat these machines, so it should last a while. I have no intent on purchasing another machine.


77 posted on 05/07/2013 7:07:27 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Durus

Apples’ OS is basically Unix, Unix is a very good operating system and has no problem with servers. In fact Unix has been running on the servers before MS even existed. Linx is also Unix and it also has no problem running on servers.


78 posted on 05/07/2013 7:09:52 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb
MACs OS is basically a gui slapped onto OpenBSD. While UNIX is a great server platform, that really isn't the point. What does Apple bring to the table against all the other UNIX players? Gui? Glitzy box? Neither are important. Apple's strengths simply aren't in this area.

Virtually all major enterprise level organizations are going run large Sans, Some variant of UNIX for core business systems, and Window for AD DNS DHCP WINS (some Unix machines still use WINS) sometimes mail/office products. Where do you see Apple competing?

I don't see them making a big break through in any business computing area. Nor do I expect they want too. They are making lots of money with their gadgets where a cool case, well designed electronics and slick gui get's them market share. Expect them to stick to their strengths.

79 posted on 05/07/2013 7:52:11 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

Well now I can agree with you, Apple does not appear to have any interest or any kind of natural advantage in the server world. I was just pointing out that Apples OS (Unix) would not prevent them from doing so.


80 posted on 05/07/2013 7:59:09 AM PDT by jpsb
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