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Dems Say Need to Block ‘Stomach Churning’ Plastic Printable Gun is Urgent
Pajamas Media ^ | 05/07/2013 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 05/07/2013 10:08:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: JRandomFreeper
Your place?


51 posted on 05/07/2013 10:45:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: rarestia

OMG !!! Stomach churning Schumer again ,does he even know what a 3D printer is ?


52 posted on 05/07/2013 10:45:41 AM PDT by molson209
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To: cuban leaf
Too late.

Yep. The Soviets tried the same thing with respect to printed material. Samizdat killed them. Making it illegal won't stop it, won't even slow it down. Welcome to the 21st century, Chuckie.

53 posted on 05/07/2013 10:46:49 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

“We’re facing a situation where anyone — a felon, a terrorist — can open a gun factory in their garage, and the weapons they make will be undetectable,” Schumer said.

Yes, but if everyone else can open a gun factory in their garage too criminals won’t get very far, will they?

Armed criminals only have an advantage if the law abiding are not armed.
When the law abiding are armed the criminal’s advantage disappears.


54 posted on 05/07/2013 10:47:46 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Schmucky should be more afraid of tar and feathers than plastic guns.

Effing traitor!


55 posted on 05/07/2013 10:47:48 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: cuban leaf
If the police see you carrying one on the street, they’ll know it’s a crime.

I would be embarrassed if I was seen carrying this thing on the street. And I am a CCW permit holder. It's really ugly and completely unreliable for personal protection. There is nothing practical about it....yet. Obviously this piece was a only and R&D prototype to prove the concept. The innovator certainly did make his point and in spectacular fashion. I'm proud of him.

56 posted on 05/07/2013 10:48:07 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m really happy that it churns democrat stomachs.


57 posted on 05/07/2013 10:48:49 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: rarestia
The First Amendment is pretty clear on this and even spells out: freedom of the press.

If Steve Israel can't understand that he's in the wrong country. Must have gotten off the plane in London and turned left or something.

58 posted on 05/07/2013 10:48:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SampleMan
Actually, I've got gardening stuff cluttering up the shop, so it would take a day of organizing before a 'factory' could be set up. And I could actually reach the lathe. ;)

But yeah, working steam engines and Stirlings engines weren't a problem, I figure a knock-off of the original Liberator would be pretty easy.

/johnny

59 posted on 05/07/2013 10:49:34 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind
Security checkpoints, background checks, and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print plastic firearms at home

Hey, nitwit Representative, they're criminals; their intent is to break the law. The ONLY thing your new law would do is add an additional charge onto the stack of existing broken laws, should the cops be lucky enough to even find the perp.

60 posted on 05/07/2013 10:49:58 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: SeekAndFind

Why are they worried. It’s a disposable gun, only usable for 10 shots or so. A burn gun, as it were. OK, maybe I see their point, but it still violates our rights.

And “stomach-churning???” Puh-leeeeeze!


61 posted on 05/07/2013 10:50:31 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: servo1969

“We’re facing a situation where anyone — a felon, a terrorist — can get anything they need in spite all the people control laws.


62 posted on 05/07/2013 10:51:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Perdogg
They could argue that since the internet cross stateliness, it falls under the commerce clause.

lol. Good Point. For Guvmnt, everything falls under the commerce clause somehow.

63 posted on 05/07/2013 10:51:36 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Perdogg
Fortunately the Bill of Rights was passed right after the adoption of the Constitution, so it's arguable that the Bill of Rights and other amendments supersede the Commerce Clause.

The problem here is Steve Israel lives in a small isolated, even provincial community and their peculiar local standards are simply not shared by real Americans. I'll print up all the handguns I want and he can kiss my butt!

64 posted on 05/07/2013 10:51:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: brooklyn dave

No, they (NRA) don’t .... my point was though, that they are more likely to become that then put themselves out of existence by embracing (far right) conservative values .... which was the contention of the lib idiot who wrote the article.

On the other hand, the GOP most definitely IS actively working on their own demise .... the article would have been more accurate if that was stated, but not because of ‘far right’ leanings .... but because they are becoming indistinguishable from the Democraps. I consider myself independent these days and vote ‘conservative’, do not identify as an “R”.


65 posted on 05/07/2013 10:51:59 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A burn gun, as it were.

Yep but little different than the cheap throw away that can be bought in the nearest hood for a couple hundred bucks with no questions asked.
66 posted on 05/07/2013 10:53:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mister Tea
I wouldn’t try firing a gun made of 3D printer plastic — it seems like something more dangerous to the person behind it than to the person in front of it.

I'll second that. I wouldn't want to be the first or the third person if I had to shoot it (or any other person after the third person for that matter).

After they perfect the technique, make it look more traditional and can prove they have put 5,000 rounds through one, I do not want to own one.

67 posted on 05/07/2013 10:54:22 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Mister Tea

There are plenty of ways to beef up the plastic ~ to be covered at a later time ~ or you can use a small insertable barrel if you are ‘afraid’ ~ (which you should be until the plastic is beefed up)


68 posted on 05/07/2013 10:56:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind; All
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69 posted on 05/07/2013 10:58:56 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Tenacious 1

I don’t want one but I do love seeing the democrats get their panties all knotted up like this.


70 posted on 05/07/2013 10:59:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tenacious 1
I don't think you understand the purpose of this gun. It takes its name from a cheap, single-shot pistol dropped in France during WWII. It is not meant for long and continuous service.

Now if Schmuckey Schumer knew the history of the name, he would probably be blowing hemorrhoids our of his lips.

71 posted on 05/07/2013 11:02:01 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I want one but I don’t like the yellow. I’d have to run my 75 mm field piece through Microsoft Paint before actually taking on the Wehrmacht with it.


72 posted on 05/07/2013 11:02:16 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SampleMan

Ping


73 posted on 05/07/2013 11:02:24 AM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: servo1969

Then there’s always the totally unregistered and totally unregulated family home pressure cooker ~


74 posted on 05/07/2013 11:02:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: brooklyn dave
The UKIP - UK Independence Party.
75 posted on 05/07/2013 11:03:23 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind
Time to update the acronym. BATFEP.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives and Printers.

76 posted on 05/07/2013 11:03:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Billthedrill

I just slipped this in on Chuckie’s Facebook page.


77 posted on 05/07/2013 11:06:27 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many stupid gun laws are because of movie fiction? We have “cop killer” bullet laws fro stupid movies. Plastic gun bans from stupid movies. DC politicians need to get in the real world once in a while. Idiots.


78 posted on 05/07/2013 11:10:59 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: trubolotta
I don't think you understand the purpose of this gun. It takes its name from a cheap, single-shot pistol dropped in France during WWII. It is not meant for long and continuous service.

You mean in less than ten shots (probably one or two) it would be replaced by one of the firearms formerly carried by those enforcing the tyrants' commands? That does sound inconvenient for the far left fringe in the event that they attempted a transition to communism.

79 posted on 05/07/2013 11:12:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: muawiyah
There are plenty of ways to beef up the plastic

I recommend finding some naturally occurring twine and wrapping it around the barrel, just like you were whipping the ends of a larger rope, to strengthen and reinforce the barrel.

80 posted on 05/07/2013 11:16:08 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

Yep, that is what they had in mind when it was introduced.


81 posted on 05/07/2013 11:17:39 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta
I don't think you understand the purpose of this gun. It takes its name from a cheap, single-shot pistol dropped in France during WWII. It is not meant for long and continuous service.

I believe you are referring to the WWII zip gun? I have not heard this "plastic gun" that was printed on a 3D printer referred to by any name resembling that which was issued as a throw away piece in WWII. Quite frankly, that was a very cheap and limited use piece. The printed gun for this demo was anything but cheap considering the equipment and time it took. I'd hate to think this gun was designed, built and fired for any reason than to establish that it could be done.

I do not believe that it's purpose was to manufacture a cheap, single shot pistol for mass production or sale. Quite frankly, the thing is not very concealable, is not likely very reliable, and being a single shot .22, would not be a very practical self defense weapon.

82 posted on 05/07/2013 11:18:37 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: SeekAndFind
I guess these Jack@$$es never heard of a "ZIP Gun"
83 posted on 05/07/2013 11:21:32 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: CA Conservative
Not that it matters to our putative masters in Congress, but exactly how can Congress make it illegal for you to manufacture something in your own home if it is for personal use and not for sale?

They will legislate any-and-everything! IIRC, the SCOTUS decided that a small farmer who was growing food for his own use was reducing the amount the same food being sold by other farmers in other states, so the congress COULD regulate what he was doing, and they still use that rediculous misuse of the commerce clause to claim to legislate and control EVERYTHING!

Mark

84 posted on 05/07/2013 11:23:18 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: SeekAndFind
"we have to do more than just make it a crime"

Scarier than the gun itself.

85 posted on 05/07/2013 11:24:03 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: Tenacious 1

If I recall, the “Liberator” was a single shot .45 caliber metal stamping. I think the designer is just making a point by using that name. The same guy has produced the receiver for a AR-15 but said in one of his videos he wanted something totally plastic to prove it could be done.

The only zip gun I know from my much younger days was fabricated from a car antenna. Very inaccurate.


86 posted on 05/07/2013 11:29:23 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: MarkL

I think that was one of the worst ever ruling by the SCOTUS.


87 posted on 05/07/2013 11:30:26 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Pollster1
I was thinking more along the lines of the solution carved out for termites. They have a taste for metal ~ at least for anything as heavy as Zinc. They consume zinc, gold and other nanoparticles. They then circulate the zinc to their mandibles to toughen them up. They excrete the gold in their nests.

Yes, gold flour is deposited in discrete quantities in discrete locations by ordinary termites world-wide.

But the idea of toughing Chitin (C8H13O5N)through the process of infiltrating a harder metal into the mix is well worth studying. In some species this goes beyond the mandibles and mouthparts to the OVIPOSITOR!

Talk about some tough chicks!

88 posted on 05/07/2013 11:37:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: brooklyn dave

if the theory of evolution were fact it would weed out the morons like this that invented it. Thats how stupid liberals are and why they are doomed.


89 posted on 05/07/2013 11:39:40 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: SeekAndFind
“at the very least” Congress needs to make it “a crime to have such a gun.”

That raises the disturbing question - what is the VERY MOST he can envision doing?

90 posted on 05/07/2013 11:44:23 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Chuckie, et al knows they can’t stop this. I think this is his next step to banning ammo.


91 posted on 05/07/2013 11:53:17 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: CA Conservative

“Not that it matters to our putative masters in Congress, but exactly how can Congress make it illegal for you to manufacture something in your own home if it is for personal use and not for sale?

The federal government is not granted a general police power - any federal laws are supposed to be based on the enumerated powers granted to the federal government by the Constitution. For example, the feds can’t arrest and prosecute you for murder, unless the murder occurs on federal property or you murder a federal official. Most laws that the feds pass are based on the Interstate Commerce Clause, but if this is something you make yourself and keep for your own use, it doesn’t qualify as interstate commerce, right?

That is not to say that states could not outlaw these weapons under the general police powers they have - although there would certainly be some 2nd Amendment problems with that approach as well.”

I have been pounding the table on this issue re background checks ever since the Demoncrats began the last gun grab push. Not sure why but it rarely is mentioned in debates.


92 posted on 05/07/2013 12:05:36 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Schumer said “at the very least” Congress needs to make it “a crime to have such a gun.”

The right of the people to keep AND bear ARMS, shall not be infringed.

These jokers don’t even try to hide it anymore.


93 posted on 05/07/2013 12:09:35 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do not forget to make hard copies of the programs!


94 posted on 05/07/2013 12:58:01 PM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Nachum

It seemed to me that the link for downloading was dead and unusable. Sounds like I didn’t see a good link.


95 posted on 05/07/2013 3:13:42 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: struggle

They already are off shore: Defense Distributed’s downloads are on Mega, Kim Dotcom’s new file sharing site.

What’s more, if FReepers attend to my advice, the CAD files with exist on thousands of computers here in the U.S.: everyone, even if you don’t expect to be able to afford a 3D printer in the next decade, even if you don’t want firearms in your house for whatever reason, download the files — do it on public wi-fi, encrypt the results under an obscure name, and delete the originals using military grade deletion if you’re worried the Feds will know you have a copy.


96 posted on 05/07/2013 3:26:40 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats are too late.

That needs to be said again and again.

The cat is out of the bag.

This is a black swan moment.

Is he going to ban magnets to prevent coil gun developement?


97 posted on 05/07/2013 4:08:28 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: The_Reader_David

If the file is out there, Schumer might as well try and stop printing of the constitution...


98 posted on 05/07/2013 4:11:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CA Conservative; All
“Not that it matters to our putative masters in Congress, but exactly how can Congress make it illegal for you to manufacture something in your own home if it is for personal use and not for sale?”

You can thank “Originalist” justice Scalia for that. He reversed Lopez in Raich to argue exactly that someone growing marijuana in their own home for their own use some how affected interstate commerce, and was therefore legitimately the subject of federal law.

The Supreme Court then used Raich to tell the 9th Circuit to reverse a decision under Lopez that building a machine gun for yourself and not for sale was not covered under the Commerce Clause.

99 posted on 05/07/2013 5:11:54 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: unixfox
Schmucky should be more afraid of tar and feathers than plastic guns.

NOT TRUE! Schemer is from NY. Most people in NY think just the same way he does. It's the reason that he keeps getting reelected. And lest you think that most NYers are unaware of his anti-gun stance, look at the evile filth Carolyn McCarthy. She rans solely on an anti-gun campaign platform. She's a one trick pony, BUT she keeps getting RE-ELECTED by a majority of voters in her district. The problem isn't garbage like upChuckie and McCarthy. The problem is New Yorkers

The majority of New Yorkers (and massholes, marylanders, etc.) are anti-gun freedom haters to their very cores. They have no concept of freedom. And they loath hate and fear those who DON'T want the government's jackboots on their necks.

I find it ironic that two of the most publicised terrorist attacks occurred in NY and MA. Two states where the populations are hell bent along with the turd in the white house on destroying the nature of the USA - people who are the most sympathetic to the terrorists goals.

100 posted on 05/08/2013 4:12:58 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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