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Tests show Ariel Castro father of Cleveland girl born in captivity
Reuters ^ | Fri May 10, 2013 11:04am EDT

Posted on 05/10/2013 11:37:56 AM PDT by null and void

The Ohio attorney general said on Friday that DNA tests showed Cleveland kidnapping and rape suspect Ariel Castro is the father of the six-year-old born while he allegedly held the girl's mother and two other women captive for nearly a decade.

Attorney General Mike DeWine said in a statement that "forensic scientists worked throughout the night to confirm that Castro is the father of the six-year-old girl born in captivity to one of the kidnapping victims."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: arielcastro; castro; rapist; registereddemocrat; uscitizen
Is Ariel Castro in this country legally?
1 posted on 05/10/2013 11:37:56 AM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void

His father emigrated from Puerto Rico in 1954.


2 posted on 05/10/2013 11:38:57 AM PDT by Borges
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To: All

Duh! Who else could it have been?


3 posted on 05/10/2013 11:39:12 AM PDT by bennowens
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To: null and void

He’s Puerto Rican, that makes him a U.S. citizen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones%E2%80%93Shafroth_Act


4 posted on 05/10/2013 11:40:07 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: bennowens

Well, it was not beyond the bounds of possibility that AC invited friends over for fun and games with the girls.


5 posted on 05/10/2013 11:40:41 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: bennowens

It could have been one of the warped brothers too, so it’s nice to have that confirmation. I feel bad for the little girl though - she’s going to grow up knowing that her father was pure evil. I hope there will at least be a grave for her to visit. Soon.


6 posted on 05/10/2013 11:40:55 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Borges

As a Puerto Rican, his father was also an American citizen. And presumably his mom.

Which means he was born in America to two citizens, making him natural born by the strictest criteria. But I don’t think he’ll be elected President.


7 posted on 05/10/2013 11:43:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Pollster1

Not to throw gas on a fire, but what’s the difference between what this guy did to these girls and what the Muslim religion preaches about how men should treat women?
Why all the condemnation for this guy and yet silence from the left every time a Muslim cuts his daughter’s throat after he catches her talking to a boy who isn’t a relative?


8 posted on 05/10/2013 11:43:39 AM PDT by pie_eater
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To: Borges; Tijeras_Slim

Thank you.


9 posted on 05/10/2013 11:47:13 AM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: Sherman Logan

*shrug* He’s at least as qualified as Ted Kennedy, and more so than the current occupier.


10 posted on 05/10/2013 11:48:40 AM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: null and void

He also impregnated one of the girls multiple times, then forced her to miscarry by beating her in the stomach.

The prosecutor may ask for the death penalty over that.


11 posted on 05/10/2013 11:48:45 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: Alex in chains
The prosecutor may ask for the death penalty over that.

Or she may not. *sigh*

12 posted on 05/10/2013 11:49:50 AM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: Alex in chains

And even more of a challenge in this case will be to show that the actions actually caused the deaths years after the fact. Is there even an independent basis for proving that the child wasn’t legitimately and consensually conceived ? He has to be presumed innocent at this point.


13 posted on 05/10/2013 11:55:41 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: null and void

This whole thing really creeps me out like a bad “B” movie. I wish we could just stick with Benghazi Barry. Whoops! I forgot, the state-controlled toads in the state-controlled “media” aren’t interested in Benghazi.


14 posted on 05/10/2013 12:02:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is the root cause of violent crime in Mexico. - Barack Hussein Obama Jr.)
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To: null and void

“Capital punishment must be reserved for those crimes that are truly the worst examples of human conduct,” Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Timothy McGinty said today, indicating that Castro will likely face additional charges of aggravated murder related to the pregnancies.

The death penalty is applicable under Ohio law for the “most depraved criminals who commit aggravated murder during the course of a kidnapping,” McGinty said.

Castro allegedly induced abortions in one of his victims, Michele Knight, 32, on at least five separate occasions by punching her in the stomach.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ariel-castro-cleveland-kidnap-suspect-face-death-penalty/story?id=19139911#.UY1EIoYf-Tg


15 posted on 05/10/2013 12:02:55 PM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: null and void

They worked through the night? Grissom’s lab could have knocked this out by the first commercial break.


16 posted on 05/10/2013 12:04:51 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (The Cardinals chose wisely.)
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To: erlayman

What jury is going to believe the “consensual sex” defense from a man who kidnapped underage girls, chained them to a wall and had sex with them?

What judge would even allow this guy to try and pin the pregnancies on the girls?


17 posted on 05/10/2013 12:08:33 PM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: Alex in chains
Yep. With a pro-choice prosecutor, this may not rise to a worst example of human conduct, nor may it be regarded as a depraved act.

Even then, there's the judgement call of if it's better to get an easier conviction on a life imprisonment charge or not convince a jury on a capital punishment charge.

Get back to me if Gosnell is convicted...

18 posted on 05/10/2013 12:10:04 PM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: Alex in chains

It’s interesting to see if the Liberals will call his crude abortion technique “murder?”


19 posted on 05/10/2013 12:10:15 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

If anyone doubts that Satan walks the earth, he need only to look at this Castro guy and Doctor Gosnell.


20 posted on 05/10/2013 12:15:37 PM PDT by Ax
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To: erlayman

The law must presume innocence but we don’t.

Also, because these were kidnap victims, there will be no need to prove or disprove consent. Once they prove the kidnap, there is no defense that any sex was consensual.

There is no such thing as consensual sex with a captive. If they are not free to leave, they are not free to refuse. The proof of the first crime (kidnap) perfects the proof of the subsequent actions as criminal rapes and the kidnap will be an aggravated circumstance heightening the severity of sentencing.


21 posted on 05/10/2013 12:19:24 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can’t solve a problem with brute force, they’ll find a way to fix it with brute forc)
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To: erlayman
Is there even an independent basis for proving that the child wasn’t legitimately and consensually conceived ? He has to be presumed innocent at this point.

As to the last part of your post, our system of justice is suppose to presume innocence until proven guilty.

Regarding the middle portion of your post, are you serious? Legitimately and consensually conceived? Despite this being in the early stages of investigation, and a trial date to be determined at an unknown future date, how does a man legitimately and consensually conceive a child with a girl he abducted and held hostage for 10 years? He cannot claim consensual sex with a girl who he kidnapped.

22 posted on 05/10/2013 12:27:01 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Valpal1

Put him immediately in amongst the general prison population.


23 posted on 05/10/2013 12:27:13 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: bennowens

Yeah My thoughts exactly.


24 posted on 05/10/2013 12:30:00 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: null and void

I wonder if this would be enough to satisfy Whoopie Goldberg that this was “rape rape”?


25 posted on 05/10/2013 12:30:13 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Only if he filmed it...


26 posted on 05/10/2013 12:34:35 PM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: colorado tanker; dagnabbit
Dagnabbit!

Only if he didn't film it!

If he's a movie producer, it's A-Okay...

27 posted on 05/10/2013 12:37:05 PM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: null and void
Both of his parents were American citizens.

What I find more interesting is that he was twice arrested for domestic abuse and had been under a restraining order - but he was still hired to be a school bus driver.

28 posted on 05/10/2013 12:39:13 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: erlayman
Is there even an independent basis for proving that the child wasn’t legitimately and consensually conceived ?

Yes there is, genius.

The child was conceived while the mother was kidnapped and unlawfully imprisoned by the biological father.

Ariel Castro is probably praying for someone of your intellectual acumen to be selected as a juror for his trial.

29 posted on 05/10/2013 12:42:43 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Alex in chains

But 99% of people, including those oppose to abortion, don’t believe babies from rape deserve any protection


30 posted on 05/10/2013 12:48:36 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: wideawake

Well, I agree they probably won’t have as much a problem proving rape intent as cause of the miscarriages. But the defense could presumably argue that from his perspective the women were in love or theirs was a mutual affair or whatever. More likely is an insanity of plea that of not mentally competent and that he didn’t understand the Miranda rights etc.


31 posted on 05/10/2013 12:54:27 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: eccentric

However, I have heard that Ohio has some of the strictest laws in the nation for felony murder, when it leads to the termination of a pregnancy. This guy is in for a “bad day”...following the usual rounds of appeals.


32 posted on 05/10/2013 12:59:01 PM PDT by Tandem (What ever happened to personal responsibility & self-reliance?)
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To: bennowens

I have read the title a good 3 times and cannot figure out what it means...


33 posted on 05/10/2013 1:07:51 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: bennowens

I finally understand... haha... i should have read it four times before commenting...


34 posted on 05/10/2013 1:09:28 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: latina4dubya

One simply does not want to comprehend that level of evil.


35 posted on 05/10/2013 1:13:49 PM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: Ax

Satan has been working overtime lately - Benghazi, Gosnell, Boston, West, foreign factories, Cleveland, and hussein’s latest antics. Every time you turn on the tv these days, something worse has happened.


36 posted on 05/10/2013 2:00:12 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: bennowens

It gives the prosecution one more charge against him.


37 posted on 05/10/2013 2:00:56 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Alex in chains

There was a report that “RIP” and a woman’s name had been found written on a wall—as if the women held prisoner knew of a fourth woman who had died. Of course it would take more than that to show that she was murdered but the surviving women could be able to testify to the circumstances of her death (assuming the report is right).


38 posted on 05/10/2013 3:32:21 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: bennowens

The testing was done not only to assure that it was Ariel Castro but to eliminate his brothers from consideration as charges go forward.


39 posted on 05/10/2013 3:34:24 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: All

"I'm directing Sen Schumer to rename immigration reform:
'The Ariel Castro Respect and Dignity for Latinos Bill.""

"A separate amendment---'The Tamarlan Tsarneav Memorial
Amendment'---will provide government-issue pressure cookers,
fireworks, and jars of vaseline for tormented Chechneyan
immigrants seeking "asylum" from govt persecution."

40 posted on 05/11/2013 4:06:44 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; La Lydia; TADSLOS; Grampa Dave; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs
Ariel Castro remained at liberty year after year, brutalizing, raping and starving three kidnapped young women who were chained and bound---imprisoned in his ramshackle house.

ON-RECORD---CLEVELAND KNEW HE WAS A VIOLENT LOWLIFE Castro's ex-wife told the Cleveland domestic-violence court that the violent Castro had brutalized and terrorized her and had abducted their children several times.

IMBECILIC CLEVELAND COPS News outlets aired a video of Castro being stopped by a Cleveland cop--Castro should have been arrested---but the stupid cop let him walk. He gave Castro two tickets for absence of m/cyle license and registration-----plus Castro's tags were on sideways--a scam to fool the imbeciles in Cleveland L/E.

DO THIS NOW The media should dig up the traffic stop police report---to see what address Castro gave---and if Cleveland Officer Simone lied on the official police report (that would be a felony).

Most cops are required to determine if an individual has a prior record of violence. Castro was a known wife beater----and had a record of abducting his own children.

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CLEVELAND HAS 96 MISSING PERSONS In the wake of the Castro horror, one reporter looked into it---and found there are currently 96 missing persons in Cleveland. Cleveland police are too busy: on donut breaks... pumping their pensions----to solve these cases.

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We can safely conclude that "ethnic solidarity" is poisoning Cleveland government----including law enforcement.

Witness Cleveland's Asst Prosecutor present at the first press conference (AKA The Original Amateur Hour) This self-dealing simpleton had the audacity to pump his heinous ethnic solidarity agenda.......he used the brutalized girls for his purposes---as an opporunity to score points for "ethnic solidarity."

While America was demanding that justice prevail for the three brutalized girls, the bassmole Asst prosecutor used the press conference to proselytize---to announce he, too, was a Puerto Rican (like the monstrous Castro family).

The barely literate imbecile Asst Prosecutor (poster boy or affirmative action) actually insisted we should not paint all latinos as criminals. The dumbo failed to realize HE was the problem----corrupting US justice, PUSHING ethnic solidarity poison on the nation when these horrific crimes demanded swift JUSTICE.

The self-dealing latino infected the discourse on justice for three brutalized girls. They should show him to the door and kick his incompeten *** to the curb.

As well, the Cleveland police are beneath contempt---being called to the horror house---walking away---then conveniently "losing" the call records to cover their incompetent ***es.

41 posted on 05/11/2013 4:41:34 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Liz; Tennessee Nana; La Lydia; TADSLOS; Grampa Dave; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs

” The barely literate imbecile Asst Prosecutor (poster boy or affirmative action) actually insisted we should not paint all latinos as criminals. The dumbo failed to realize HE was the problem——corrupting US justice, PUSHING ethnic solidarity poison on the nation when these horrific crimes demanded swift JUSTICE. “

Sadly, nothing new here....


42 posted on 05/11/2013 10:14:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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