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Tests show Ariel Castro father of Cleveland girl born in captivity
Reuters ^ | Fri May 10, 2013 11:04am EDT

Posted on 05/10/2013 11:37:56 AM PDT by null and void

The Ohio attorney general said on Friday that DNA tests showed Cleveland kidnapping and rape suspect Ariel Castro is the father of the six-year-old born while he allegedly held the girl's mother and two other women captive for nearly a decade.

Attorney General Mike DeWine said in a statement that "forensic scientists worked throughout the night to confirm that Castro is the father of the six-year-old girl born in captivity to one of the kidnapping victims."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: arielcastro; castro; rapist; registereddemocrat; uscitizen
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To: erlayman

The law must presume innocence but we don’t.

Also, because these were kidnap victims, there will be no need to prove or disprove consent. Once they prove the kidnap, there is no defense that any sex was consensual.

There is no such thing as consensual sex with a captive. If they are not free to leave, they are not free to refuse. The proof of the first crime (kidnap) perfects the proof of the subsequent actions as criminal rapes and the kidnap will be an aggravated circumstance heightening the severity of sentencing.


21 posted on 05/10/2013 12:19:24 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can’t solve a problem with brute force, they’ll find a way to fix it with brute forc)
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To: erlayman
Is there even an independent basis for proving that the child wasn’t legitimately and consensually conceived ? He has to be presumed innocent at this point.

As to the last part of your post, our system of justice is suppose to presume innocence until proven guilty.

Regarding the middle portion of your post, are you serious? Legitimately and consensually conceived? Despite this being in the early stages of investigation, and a trial date to be determined at an unknown future date, how does a man legitimately and consensually conceive a child with a girl he abducted and held hostage for 10 years? He cannot claim consensual sex with a girl who he kidnapped.

22 posted on 05/10/2013 12:27:01 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Valpal1

Put him immediately in amongst the general prison population.


23 posted on 05/10/2013 12:27:13 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: bennowens

Yeah My thoughts exactly.


24 posted on 05/10/2013 12:30:00 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: null and void

I wonder if this would be enough to satisfy Whoopie Goldberg that this was “rape rape”?


25 posted on 05/10/2013 12:30:13 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Only if he filmed it...


26 posted on 05/10/2013 12:34:35 PM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: colorado tanker; dagnabbit
Dagnabbit!

Only if he didn't film it!

If he's a movie producer, it's A-Okay...

27 posted on 05/10/2013 12:37:05 PM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: null and void
Both of his parents were American citizens.

What I find more interesting is that he was twice arrested for domestic abuse and had been under a restraining order - but he was still hired to be a school bus driver.

28 posted on 05/10/2013 12:39:13 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: erlayman
Is there even an independent basis for proving that the child wasn’t legitimately and consensually conceived ?

Yes there is, genius.

The child was conceived while the mother was kidnapped and unlawfully imprisoned by the biological father.

Ariel Castro is probably praying for someone of your intellectual acumen to be selected as a juror for his trial.

29 posted on 05/10/2013 12:42:43 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Alex in chains

But 99% of people, including those oppose to abortion, don’t believe babies from rape deserve any protection


30 posted on 05/10/2013 12:48:36 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: wideawake

Well, I agree they probably won’t have as much a problem proving rape intent as cause of the miscarriages. But the defense could presumably argue that from his perspective the women were in love or theirs was a mutual affair or whatever. More likely is an insanity of plea that of not mentally competent and that he didn’t understand the Miranda rights etc.


31 posted on 05/10/2013 12:54:27 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: eccentric

However, I have heard that Ohio has some of the strictest laws in the nation for felony murder, when it leads to the termination of a pregnancy. This guy is in for a “bad day”...following the usual rounds of appeals.


32 posted on 05/10/2013 12:59:01 PM PDT by Tandem (What ever happened to personal responsibility & self-reliance?)
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To: bennowens

I have read the title a good 3 times and cannot figure out what it means...


33 posted on 05/10/2013 1:07:51 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: bennowens

I finally understand... haha... i should have read it four times before commenting...


34 posted on 05/10/2013 1:09:28 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: latina4dubya

One simply does not want to comprehend that level of evil.


35 posted on 05/10/2013 1:13:49 PM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: Ax

Satan has been working overtime lately - Benghazi, Gosnell, Boston, West, foreign factories, Cleveland, and hussein’s latest antics. Every time you turn on the tv these days, something worse has happened.


36 posted on 05/10/2013 2:00:12 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: bennowens

It gives the prosecution one more charge against him.


37 posted on 05/10/2013 2:00:56 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Alex in chains

There was a report that “RIP” and a woman’s name had been found written on a wall—as if the women held prisoner knew of a fourth woman who had died. Of course it would take more than that to show that she was murdered but the surviving women could be able to testify to the circumstances of her death (assuming the report is right).


38 posted on 05/10/2013 3:32:21 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: bennowens

The testing was done not only to assure that it was Ariel Castro but to eliminate his brothers from consideration as charges go forward.


39 posted on 05/10/2013 3:34:24 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: All

"I'm directing Sen Schumer to rename immigration reform:
'The Ariel Castro Respect and Dignity for Latinos Bill.""

"A separate amendment---'The Tamarlan Tsarneav Memorial
Amendment'---will provide government-issue pressure cookers,
fireworks, and jars of vaseline for tormented Chechneyan
immigrants seeking "asylum" from govt persecution."

40 posted on 05/11/2013 4:06:44 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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