Skip to comments.Benghazi e-mails show clash between State Department, CIA (Nope, nothing to see here)
Posted on 05/10/2013 11:32:36 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
New details from administration e-mails about last years attacks on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya, demonstrate that an intense bureaucratic clash took place between the State Department and the CIA over which agency would get to tell the story of how the tragedy unfolded.
That clash played out in the development of administration talking points that have been at the center of the controversy over the handling of the incident, according to the e-mails that came to light Friday. Full article here
Liberals had been giddy all week, believing their own silly press releases (commonly known as "newspapers") arguing that the 'Republican-run' Benghazi hearings produced no real smoking gun, all the while furiously attacking the whistleblowers and insisting they weren't attacking the whistleblowers.
Many libbies even fantasized that the Benghazi hearings had already blown over -- some were making this keen observation minutes after the hearings began.
Liberals kept telling each other that Benghazi won't even be a teensy-weensy, itty-bitty blip on the radar screen by the time Campaign 2016 rolls around -- that more than enough time will have elapsed between the murders in Benghazi and the next presidential campaign, paving the way for president Hillary, Gaea willing.
But then Jonathan Karl of ABC news had to gum up the works. Remember Him? He's the chap accused of perpetrating journalism a few weeks ago, when he reduced Obama during his press conference into insisting he still had the relevant juice and that reports of his de-juicification are greatly exaggerated.
Now Jonathan Karl reports there were a dozen differing versions of the Benghazi talking points which show extensive editing "as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA" to the "final version" written entirely by Mr. Magoo.
No threats of terrorist attacks, no terrorist attacks, no warning of five other recent attacks in Benghazi against foreign interests, no Ansar al-Sharia and no al-Qaeda to see here, move along.
Since it was clear the original version written by the CIA was riddled with factual accuracies, Hillary's State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland insisted on plenty of dishwashing liquid and scrub brushes as part of the 'editing' process. It was all to ensure the final version their programmed little robot Susan Rice would read off from on all the Sunday news shows pegged the needle on the ol' Baghdad-Bob-o-meter past the breaking point.
For months, White House flack Jay Carney kept frenziedly pointing the press to his own lies back in November as evidence he was telling the truth about the talking points.
Today, Obama's spokes-hack was pulled out of that comfort zone by Obama's jilted lovers during his 'Honey, It's-not-what-you-think-- I-can-explain!' presser which had the whiff of blood in the water all over the place. Benghazi won't be dropping into any memory hole yet -- in fact, this is just the warm-up act.
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>"It was all to ensure the final version their programmed little robot Susan Rice would read off from on all the Sunday news shows pegged the needle on the ol' Baghdad-Bob-o-meter past the breaking point.
Still waiting for the gun-running reports to surface.
When is the next round of hearings? I would like to see that Army officer who took the “stand down” order testify...
Mesta the sharks, at least some of them, actually looked like journalists today at the presser. May it continue.
I enjoyed your summary, JH2. Also worthy of a read is this WEEKLY STANDARD report at the link - http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/benghazi-scandal-grows_722032.html?page=1
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What happened to Fast and Furious?
And why did 0bama choose Susan Rice? Because you’re guaranteed to be called a sexist and a racist if you question her remarks!
Say what? The Post writers take the same pains as the State Department disinformation team to obfuscate the story even further.
>> low-information voters.
Thanks for the ping, John. Saturday morning bump.
John ... here’s a series of posts that put some things together - just recently ...
Transparency: White House Holds Benghazi Briefing ... Off-the-Record
LYING IN STATE [i.e. US State Department] - by Mark Steyn
Benghazi E-Mails Show Clash Between State Department and CIA
Clash?? Naw....They just couldn’t agree who should tell the biggest lie first??
I was shocked to see Whoraldo last night pushing that story to none other than BOR. Now we have the media pissed at the White House, why? Because they carried the water for them for so long, now they are stuck having to protect their duplicity and what better way than to do unto them the way that them has done unto anyone who tried to point out the lies.
Let this boil for a little while along with the new investigations of the IRS and when they least expect it, Bammo! (no pun intended) All the way to the moon!
Sheryl Atkinson will drop a new story about it first using his ridiculous statement in Mexico blaming We The People.
When this SOB gets on the helicopter for the last time on the WH Lawn, instead of waving the peace sign, he will scratch something on his cheek with that fargin middle finger of his. The whole fargin bunch will be prosecuted along with several congresscritteres. Then all of a sudden, the BC issue will spring up again.
These latest revelations will be seen as the dam break because everything will let loose.
I especially think this is significant:
Since it was clear the original version written by the CIA was riddled with factual accuracies, Hillary's State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland insisted on plenty of dishwashing liquid and scrub brushes as part of the 'editing' process.
Nuland needs to be in front of the committee or a special committee, under oath first, followed by Hillary.
All of a sudden, all the bureaucratic care promises for the current state Department employees, aka “Obamacare”, do not apply to whistleblowers etc...
The Whitehouse simply refuses to fill out the required paperwork for their employees and attacks its own very bureaucratic union protective racket windmill.
This is not about attacking a past did, this is about implementing responsability and recognition of the government employee.
But they did the same with FAst and FUrious, and currently ICE is standing down telling both the government and the AMerican people, that they are no longer responsible for happens next to AMerica so long Big Sis and these gangsters on top fudge on decisions and piece meal implementation of the law as they see fit in the typical liberal “real time convenience of the moment”.
>> ...Since it was clear the original version written by the CIA was riddled with factual accuracies...
Now THAT is funny!
It’s also disgusting and infuriating.
This is the most evil administration we’ve had in all our 237 years.
You may find these two article helpful, one to the lack of credibility of the the investigators and the other shows NATO assets in the area never called upon.
Your insight is a gift to Freerepublic. Thank you
If the White House ever mentioned “truth” instead of “talking points” I would be shocked - and probably have to go to some hospital.
I love your two cents!
John I had almost forgotten what it was like to read your gems. Another great job there.
A timeline from, believe it or not, ABC News, showing very clearly the edits made to the talking points.
“Stylistic changes” my ass!!
Oh JohnHuang2, you've done it again!
“Benghazi won’t be dropping into any memory hole yet — in fact, this is just the warm-up act.”
May this be so.
AND...may it inspire some to take another look at Fast and Furious.
“Nuland needs to be in front of the committee or a special committee, under oath first, followed by Hillary.”
I was waiting to read what the WP and NYT would put out today because I knew it would be word for word pablum of what they were fed yesterday at the super secret press briefing.
This is the newest meme: It was a turf war between the CIA and State. The CIA report was accurate, but State couldn’t reveal the information about al Queda involvement because it would imperil the investigation.
So, you see it wasn’t political at all. State was doing its darndest to make sure the bad guys didn’t know we were on to them. Some hard hitting investigation it’s been, since 8 months later we just got ultra grainy photos of men seen at the attack who “might” have been involved.
Okay, say we buy that this was a turf war. If that’s all it was, they could have gotten away with releasing very minimal information-more info would be released as the investigation continues.
Then why the video story? No mention in the WP article of the video. If accuracy was of utmost importance early on in the investigation, why create a scenario so totally divorced from reality?
Why the overkill with the video?
I wasnt involved in the talking points process.... As I understand it, as Ive been told, it was a typical interagency process where staff, including from the State Department, all participated, to try to come up with whatever was going to be made publicly available, and it was an intelligence product.
With all due respect,the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided to go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?Hillary Clinton
Because the terrorists were supposed to kidnap Ambassador Stevens for a swap for the blind Sheik. Instead they killed Ambassador Stevens. That is what they are trying to cover up. It will not work. The truth will come out. The sooner the better.
Maybe there will be gun-running reports and maybe there won't.
However there are plenty of reports NOW, that we don't have to wait for, that show other treasonous activity.
Hey, JH2, long time no hug! Thanks for the Mother’s Day wishes and the ping. (I won’t be spending my Mother’s Day with my only son, as he is working in Angola at the moment, but he makes me feel like it’s Mother’s Day all year ‘round, so it doesn’t matter.)
Hope all is well with you and yours. Love your Two Cents! As always, spot on. :-)
Thank you for all your hard work spreading the truth
Obama find out there are other departments in government and control isn’t 100%.
Thank you so much for your outstanding essay-post!