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Benghazi e-mails show clash between State Department, CIA (Nope, nothing to see here)
Washington Post ^ | 5-11-2013 | By Scott Wilson and Karen DeYoung

Posted on 05/10/2013 11:32:36 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

New details from administration e-mails about last year’s attacks on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya, demonstrate that an intense bureaucratic clash took place between the State Department and the CIA over which agency would get to tell the story of how the tragedy unfolded.

That clash played out in the development of administration talking points that have been at the center of the controversy over the handling of the incident, according to the e-mails that came to light Friday. Full article here

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Liberals had been giddy all week, believing their own silly press releases (commonly known as "newspapers") arguing that the 'Republican-run' Benghazi hearings produced no real smoking gun, all the while furiously attacking the whistleblowers and insisting they weren't attacking the whistleblowers.

Many libbies even fantasized that the Benghazi hearings had already blown over -- some were making this keen observation minutes after the hearings began.

Liberals kept telling each other that Benghazi won't even be a teensy-weensy, itty-bitty blip on the radar screen by the time Campaign 2016 rolls around -- that more than enough time will have elapsed between the murders in Benghazi and the next presidential campaign, paving the way for president Hillary, Gaea willing.

But then Jonathan Karl of ABC news had to gum up the works. Remember Him? He's the chap accused of perpetrating journalism a few weeks ago, when he reduced Obama during his press conference into insisting he still had the relevant juice and that reports of his de-juicification are greatly exaggerated.

Now Jonathan Karl reports there were a dozen differing versions of the Benghazi talking points which show extensive editing "as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA" to the "final version" written entirely by Mr. Magoo.

No threats of terrorist attacks, no terrorist attacks, no warning of five other recent attacks in Benghazi against foreign interests, no Ansar al-Sharia and no al-Qaeda to see here, move along.

Since it was clear the original version written by the CIA was riddled with factual accuracies, Hillary's State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland insisted on plenty of dishwashing liquid and scrub brushes as part of the 'editing' process. It was all to ensure the final version their programmed little robot Susan Rice would read off from on all the Sunday news shows pegged the needle on the ol' Baghdad-Bob-o-meter past the breaking point.

For months, White House flack Jay Carney kept frenziedly pointing the press to his own lies back in November as evidence he was telling the truth about the talking points.

Today, Obama's spokes-hack was pulled out of that comfort zone by Obama's jilted lovers during his 'Honey, It's-not-what-you-think-- I-can-explain!' presser which had the whiff of blood in the water all over the place. Benghazi won't be dropping into any memory hole yet -- in fact, this is just the warm-up act.

Anyway, that's...
My Two Cents...
"JohnHuang2"



TOPICS: Editorial; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazicoverup; benghaziemails; libya; navyseals; threatmatrix; waronterror
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1 posted on 05/10/2013 11:32:36 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Forgiven_Sinner; xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ...

Saturday-morning ping! Have a great weekend and, to you moms out there, Happy Mother’s Day!


2 posted on 05/10/2013 11:34:21 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Money shot

>"It was all to ensure the final version their programmed little robot Susan Rice would read off from on all the Sunday news shows pegged the needle on the ol' Baghdad-Bob-o-meter past the breaking point.

3 posted on 05/10/2013 11:37:48 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up" Jeremiah 50:32)
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To: JohnHuang2

Still waiting for the gun-running reports to surface.


4 posted on 05/10/2013 11:39:37 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If guns kill people, how come no one dies at gun shows?)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Release the sharks.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


5 posted on 05/10/2013 11:40:38 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: JohnHuang2

When is the next round of hearings? I would like to see that Army officer who took the “stand down” order testify...


6 posted on 05/10/2013 11:44:32 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: JohnHuang2; MestaMachine
Thank you John. Great assessment.

Mesta the sharks, at least some of them, actually looked like journalists today at the presser. May it continue.

7 posted on 05/10/2013 11:49:08 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: JohnHuang2

I enjoyed your summary, JH2. Also worthy of a read is this WEEKLY STANDARD report at the link - http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/benghazi-scandal-grows_722032.html?page=1


8 posted on 05/11/2013 12:01:43 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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9 posted on 05/11/2013 12:06:20 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

What happened to Fast and Furious?


10 posted on 05/11/2013 12:13:26 AM PDT by DISCO
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To: rawcatslyentist

And why did 0bama choose Susan Rice? Because you’re guaranteed to be called a sexist and a racist if you question her remarks!


11 posted on 05/11/2013 12:14:07 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: JohnHuang2
[In a statement, Jen Psaki, the State Department’s chief spokesperson, said Friday that the department first reviewed the talking points on the evening of Sept. 14, two days before Rice delivered them on a series of talk shows. She said Nuland raised two concerns. “First that the points went further in assigning responsibility than preliminary assessments suggested and there was concern about preserving the integrity of the investigation,” Psaki said. “Second, that the points were inconsistent with the public language the administration had used to date — meaning members of Congress would be providing more guidance to the public than the administration.”]

Say what? The Post writers take the same pains as the State Department disinformation team to obfuscate the story even further.

12 posted on 05/11/2013 12:17:11 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: JohnHuang2
When are we gonna get back to talking about free birth control pills again? This terrorism talk is BORING to the low-information voters.
13 posted on 05/11/2013 12:49:03 AM PDT by yellowhammer
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To: yellowhammer

>> low-information voters.

Humiliate them.


14 posted on 05/11/2013 12:53:04 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Thanks for the ping, John. Saturday morning bump.


15 posted on 05/11/2013 2:24:44 AM PDT by quimby
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To: JohnHuang2

John ... here’s a series of posts that put some things together - just recently ...

Transparency: White House Holds Benghazi Briefing ... Off-the-Record
https://www.facebook.com/GW.IFA/posts/618147871547200

LYING IN STATE [i.e. US State Department] - by Mark Steyn
https://www.facebook.com/GW.IFA/posts/618143961547591

Benghazi E-Mails Show Clash Between State Department and CIA
https://www.facebook.com/GW.IFA/posts/618154728213181


16 posted on 05/11/2013 2:30:38 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: JohnHuang2; onyx; RedMDer; musicman; DJ MacWoW



17 posted on 05/11/2013 3:05:36 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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18 posted on 05/11/2013 3:07:18 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: JohnHuang2
Ought-oh, Virtually every U.S. official assigned to Benghazi was based in the CIA annex — where the agency, not the State Department, was in charge of security.
Looks like the CIA is going to be thrown under the bus.
BTW, thanks for the ping.
19 posted on 05/11/2013 3:11:45 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (01-21-13, Obama declares war on The Constitution of the United States)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Breaking news at The Onion, Baghdad-Bob will be replacing Jay Carney as White House Press secretary in the near future.
20 posted on 05/11/2013 3:16:40 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (01-21-13, Obama declares war on The Constitution of the United States)
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To: JohnHuang2
Here is another good link that explains how official reports of al Qaeda's murders of US Officials in Benghazi were changed to conform to Obama's campaign narrative.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/347943/white-house-lies-about-benghazi-talking-points

21 posted on 05/11/2013 3:25:55 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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22 posted on 05/11/2013 3:46:09 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: JohnHuang2

Clash?? Naw....They just couldn’t agree who should tell the biggest lie first??


23 posted on 05/11/2013 3:47:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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24 posted on 05/11/2013 3:48:57 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Rennes Templar

I was shocked to see Whoraldo last night pushing that story to none other than BOR. Now we have the media pissed at the White House, why? Because they carried the water for them for so long, now they are stuck having to protect their duplicity and what better way than to do unto them the way that them has done unto anyone who tried to point out the lies.


25 posted on 05/11/2013 3:52:40 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: DISCO
"What happened to Fast and Furious?

Let this boil for a little while along with the new investigations of the IRS and when they least expect it, Bammo! (no pun intended) All the way to the moon!

Sheryl Atkinson will drop a new story about it first using his ridiculous statement in Mexico blaming We The People.

When this SOB gets on the helicopter for the last time on the WH Lawn, instead of waving the peace sign, he will scratch something on his cheek with that fargin middle finger of his. The whole fargin bunch will be prosecuted along with several congresscritteres. Then all of a sudden, the BC issue will spring up again.

These latest revelations will be seen as the dam break because everything will let loose.

26 posted on 05/11/2013 4:03:00 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: JohnHuang2
Good 2 cents as always!

I especially think this is significant:

Since it was clear the original version written by the CIA was riddled with factual accuracies, Hillary's State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland insisted on plenty of dishwashing liquid and scrub brushes as part of the 'editing' process.

Nuland needs to be in front of the committee or a special committee, under oath first, followed by Hillary.

27 posted on 05/11/2013 4:27:03 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: JohnHuang2

All of a sudden, all the bureaucratic care promises for the current state Department employees, aka “Obamacare”, do not apply to whistleblowers etc...

The Whitehouse simply refuses to fill out the required paperwork for their employees and attacks its own very bureaucratic union protective racket windmill.

This is not about attacking a past did, this is about implementing responsability and recognition of the government employee.

But they did the same with FAst and FUrious, and currently ICE is standing down telling both the government and the AMerican people, that they are no longer responsible for happens next to AMerica so long Big Sis and these gangsters on top fudge on decisions and piece meal implementation of the law as they see fit in the typical liberal “real time convenience of the moment”.


28 posted on 05/11/2013 4:35:19 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JohnHuang2

>> ...Since it was clear the original version written by the CIA was riddled with factual accuracies...

Now THAT is funny!

It’s also disgusting and infuriating.

This is the most evil administration we’ve had in all our 237 years.


29 posted on 05/11/2013 4:43:14 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Star Traveler

You may find these two article helpful, one to the lack of credibility of the the investigators and the other shows NATO assets in the area never called upon.

http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2013/05/07/clintons-republican-guard/

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/what_the_hearings_mean.html


30 posted on 05/11/2013 4:47:52 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: JohnHuang2

Your insight is a gift to Freerepublic. Thank you


31 posted on 05/11/2013 4:51:07 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: JohnHuang2

If the White House ever mentioned “truth” instead of “talking points” I would be shocked - and probably have to go to some hospital.


32 posted on 05/11/2013 5:21:36 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: JohnHuang2

I love your two cents!


33 posted on 05/11/2013 5:30:17 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Good morning to you bump.

5.56mm

34 posted on 05/11/2013 5:31:06 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: JohnHuang2

John I had almost forgotten what it was like to read your gems. Another great job there.


35 posted on 05/11/2013 5:46:29 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: JohnHuang2

A timeline from, believe it or not, ABC News, showing very clearly the edits made to the talking points.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Benghazi%20Talking%20Points%20Timeline.pdf

“Stylistic changes” my ass!!


36 posted on 05/11/2013 5:47:57 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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sfl


37 posted on 05/11/2013 6:04:16 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: JohnHuang2
"Now Jonathan Karl reports there were a dozen differing versions of the Benghazi talking points which show extensive editing "as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA" to the "final version" written entirely by Mr. Magoo. "

Oh JohnHuang2, you've done it again!

38 posted on 05/11/2013 6:05:26 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: JohnHuang2
Incompetence is only their fallback defense.


39 posted on 05/11/2013 6:10:19 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JohnHuang2

“Benghazi won’t be dropping into any memory hole yet — in fact, this is just the warm-up act.”

______________________________

May this be so.

AND...may it inspire some to take another look at Fast and Furious.


40 posted on 05/11/2013 6:12:24 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: b4its2late

“Nuland needs to be in front of the committee or a special committee, under oath first, followed by Hillary.”

__________________________

Amen!


41 posted on 05/11/2013 6:17:46 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: JohnHuang2

I was waiting to read what the WP and NYT would put out today because I knew it would be word for word pablum of what they were fed yesterday at the super secret press briefing.

This is the newest meme: It was a turf war between the CIA and State. The CIA report was accurate, but State couldn’t reveal the information about al Queda involvement because it would imperil the investigation.

So, you see it wasn’t political at all. State was doing its darndest to make sure the bad guys didn’t know we were on to them. Some hard hitting investigation it’s been, since 8 months later we just got ultra grainy photos of men seen at the attack who “might” have been involved.

Okay, say we buy that this was a turf war. If that’s all it was, they could have gotten away with releasing very minimal information-more info would be released as the investigation continues.

Then why the video story? No mention in the WP article of the video. If accuracy was of utmost importance early on in the investigation, why create a scenario so totally divorced from reality?

Why the overkill with the video?


42 posted on 05/11/2013 6:39:38 AM PDT by randita
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— Then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Jan. 23, 2013:

“I wasn’t involved in the talking points process.... As I understand it, as I’ve been told, it was a typical interagency process where staff, including from the State Department, all participated, to try to come up with whatever was going to be made publicly available, and it was an intelligence product.”

“With all due respect,the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided to go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?”—Hillary Clinton


43 posted on 05/11/2013 6:42:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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To: randita

Because the terrorists were supposed to kidnap Ambassador Stevens for a swap for the blind Sheik. Instead they killed Ambassador Stevens. That is what they are trying to cover up. It will not work. The truth will come out. The sooner the better.


44 posted on 05/11/2013 7:32:57 AM PDT by abclily
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To: crosslink

Thanks ...


45 posted on 05/11/2013 7:39:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Rennes Templar
Still waiting for the gun-running reports to surface.

Maybe there will be gun-running reports and maybe there won't.

However there are plenty of reports NOW, that we don't have to wait for, that show other treasonous activity.

46 posted on 05/11/2013 7:51:13 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: JohnHuang2

Hey, JH2, long time no hug! Thanks for the Mother’s Day wishes and the ping. (I won’t be spending my Mother’s Day with my only son, as he is working in Angola at the moment, but he makes me feel like it’s Mother’s Day all year ‘round, so it doesn’t matter.)

Hope all is well with you and yours. Love your Two Cents! As always, spot on. :-)

(((((((((((((JH2)))))))))))))


47 posted on 05/11/2013 8:09:39 AM PDT by Mama_Bear
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To: Star Traveler

Thank you for all your hard work spreading the truth


48 posted on 05/11/2013 9:11:46 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: JohnHuang2

Obama find out there are other departments in government and control isn’t 100%.


49 posted on 05/11/2013 10:48:53 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: JohnHuang2

Thank you so much for your outstanding essay-post!


50 posted on 05/11/2013 9:51:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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